Why do you think people are so quick to defend Bible verses, but to openly criti

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  1. RockerGinger profile image81
    RockerGingerposted 20 months ago

    Why do you think people are so quick to defend Bible verses, but to openly criticize Qur'an verses?

    I am currently in the process of achieving my M.A in Religious studies that will continue into a Ph.D program. My concentration is Christian-Muslim relations, and how I believe there are more similarities between the two faiths than differences.
    Why do you think people say Bible verses are "taken out of context" when a decent fraction of the Bible exists in the Qur'an, sometimes only with a change of wording?
    My one stipulation is to not use violence as a reason. More violent acts exist in the Bible than the Qur'an, and perhaps any other mainstream religious text.
    Thank you for responding!

  2. Kathleen Cochran profile image80
    Kathleen Cochranposted 20 months ago

    Probably because America is primarily a Christian-practicing nation.  Assuming you are studying in US.  People tend to defend their own beliefs/culture.  Also an unfamiliarity with the Quran.

    Good luck in your studies.

    1. RockerGinger profile image81
      RockerGingerposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      This is what I hear a lot of. And I'm studying my MA in America, the PhD in the UK, online. I'm finding a transparency there that doesn't exist in the US. People discriminate everywhere, but there's far more tolerance/understanding in Europe, I find.

  3. tamarawilhite profile image91
    tamarawilhiteposted 20 months ago

    The difference between Christianity and Islam is that there are no major Christian groups advocating violence against non-believers much less acting upon it. Yet Sunni-Shia violence regularly occurs worldwide, rolling grenades into each others' mosques or shooting and bombing at the others' religious festivals. Both groups kill Almaddi and Sufi Muslims as apostates. All such groups endorse killing those who leave Islam for another faith or become atheist.
    People are quick to criticize Islam as an ideology when they are not afraid of violence by Muslims because it leads to thousands of terrorist attacks, tens of thousands of honor killings per year. 
    Then there is the political side of Islam, where there is not only no separation of faith and state, but Islam is the ONLY religion that mandates a government with laws that privilege Islam (Shariah law). Moderate Muslims say we're Muslims, you do what you want. Fundamentalist Muslims demand the political Islam implementation from "if we can't eat pork, neither can you" to "we can sexually molest your women to make you cover up and demand prayer times in public, you have to accommodate US".

    1. RockerGinger profile image81
      RockerGingerposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      I don't disagree with you. The middle eastern countries are far more orthodox about their practice.
      However, is this not enough to look past our differences? And does Christianity not advocate for violence (I.e. KKK, Westboro Baptists, etc)?

    2. tamarawilhite profile image91
      tamarawilhiteposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      The difference is that there are no major Christian groups calling for much less committing violence, while thousands of terrorist attacks and honor killings occur every year in the name of Allah per what is taught in mosques.

    3. RockerGinger profile image81
      RockerGingerposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      Tamara I suggest you listen to what is preached at a service, you'll find they don't ever call for the killing of anyone. The message is similar to Christianity. Also have you heard of an establishment called Westboro Baptists? Theyre quite violent.

  4. profile image56
    Norine Williamsposted 20 months ago

    Are you the lady that asked us to "keep our traps shut if we have not studied Muslim?" 

    In the Qur'an I found this verse which is TOTALLY against GOD! 

    "He [GOD] begetteth not, nor has He begotten.  And there is none like Him" (Sura 112:3-4).  What about the virgin Mary being inseminated by the Holy Spirit (aka GOD) in Luke 1:35?  Did He not 'begat' Himself (I Timothy 3:16)?  Is not Jesus Christ "the only begotten of the Father" (John 1:14)?  Did not Scripture say "He that believeth on the Son has everlasting life:  and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but  the wrath of God abideth on him" (John 3:36)?

    Muslims believe Jesus was raised to heaven without being put on the cross and God transformed another person exactly like Jesus who was crucified instead of Jesus. Muslims beliefs' are totally against Scripture!  Their belief denies the Son of God by believing "another person" was crucified and blasphemes against the Word of God! 

    I John 5:1 "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of GOD:  and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of Him!"  Where does this leave Sura 112:3-4?  Where does this leave all of the souls who believe Sura 112:3-4?

    If one doesn't believe Jesus is the Son of God and that HE died for our sins, they defy the entire Christian faith which is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" (Mark 3:28-30)! 

    "Violent acts in the Bible" were used by GOD to purpose HIS WILL for the 'coming of Christ!'  GOD protects HIS people and continues to do so to this date!  He is Our Father and as your earthly father protects, so does Our Father!  However, "After the Cross," (New Covenant) violence does not exist for BELIEVERS!  Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 8:10; 10:16  says "...and I will remember their sins no more."  Does this sound violent? 

    You must learn to look at Scripture "Before the Cross" (Jesus concealed and Old Covenant 'Law' effective) and "After the Cross" (Jesus revealed; New Covenant 'Grace' effective)!  Once you look at His Word in this like manner, you will "see" GOD IS *ALL* LOVE!     

    Blessings

    1. RockerGinger profile image81
      RockerGingerposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      I don't speak on something unless I'm well versed. So I expect that of those who get into these conversations. And from reading your answer, it's clear you're part of the problem. I'm a Christian, but what do I care if they don't believe in Jesus?

    2. profile image56
      Norine Williamsposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      How can you say "I'm a Christian" and "Don't care if they believe in Jesus?" upholding their belief?  I Jn 2:3-5?
      I  as u WAS working on my MA in Theology but GOD said "Get Out!" Now I know why!

    3. RockerGinger profile image81
      RockerGingerposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      Norine - I say that because who am I to force my beliefs down a good persons throat? If I'm asked about God, of course I'm up for discussing it. But who am I to tell people what to believe?
      And God told you not to study theology. Okay good to know

    4. profile image56
      Norine Williamsposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      If u don't know, you're not "in Christ!" He said He would speak "directly" to us(Jer31:33;Heb8:10;10:16) via the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:2)!
      Atheist are "good people" too! 
      If disciple of Christ, He told u (Matt28:19) to preach the Word (IITim4:2)!

    5. RockerGinger profile image81
      RockerGingerposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      Norine - It's been a delight speaking with you. Thank you for your opinion towards my question.

    6. profile image56
      Norine Williamsposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      You'll see what a "delight" it is when the "angel of light" DECEIVES you (Jn 8:44)!
      You call the Word of God *my* "opinion?" 
      You have been DECEIVED!
      II Kings 17:29-41!
      TRUTH!

    7. profile image56
      Norine Williamsposted 20 months agoin reply to this

      II Kings 17:29-41!

      The more you study "man-made" RELIGIONS from "their nations," the more you will be confused! 
      I was placed on HP "for such a time as this!"
      "Get Out!"
      Let the Holy Spirit "lead & guide you into ALL truth" (John 14:26; 16:13)!

    8. profile image54
      peter565posted 20 months agoin reply to this

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  5. profile image54
    peter565posted 20 months ago

    It is call a double standard. Partly because of

    A. Christian fanatics are just as insane as Muslim fanatics (they just don't have an opportunity to join a Christian version of the Taliban, but trust me, a Christian version of Taliban existed, starting from the Crusades and Inquisition and the Christian military coup that overthrow Spain's government and rule spain till 1970s [not sure when the coup took place, I think it is between WW1~WW2 you got to check ur self]) and partly because

    B. Racist people think "white race is the master race" or "the west is civilized and none west is savages", this is associated with something psychologist refer to as "fix believe" this is when a person believe in something badly enough, they look at example and construct opinion in favor of their believe and ignore all else, to sustain their believe, usually people believe in something so badly, because they usually can get some form of conscious or unconscious pay off. That is why most racist people are middle age men stuck in dead end jobs, because, by believing they are a member of the "master race" make their pride feel good. A lot of those racist people tend to get offended by anything that undermine the idea "the west is superior" even if it is the truth, a documentary series known as "East to west" talk about the none western influence upon the west, throughout history, it is a very good documentary series, but once I went on a review board and all I saw is a bunch of racist people getting offended by the series, because it undermine western superiority, by showing none western influence on the west.

 
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