Peaceful and rational Muhammad; in character and teachings

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   The first forty years i.e. before Muhammad was appointed Prophet Messenger by the Creator- God Allah YHWH has been offered as a reasonable argument/challenge in Quran before Nonbelievers-of-Mecca, and they could not deny its truthfulness
   
   Muhammad had a marvelous record of a peace loving person for 40+13=53 years while he lived in Mecca; till such time he was forced to migrate by persecution of him and his followers by way of blockading him for a long time and killing many of his followers with tortures by the Meccans. The cause was only that the Meccans did not allow Muhammad and his followers the right of freedom of faith.
   
   Muhammad joined in welfare activities if there were any in Mecca, he helped the needy and in distress, he stood for the human cause, he never harmed any person. His record in these 55 years is clean by any standards. He had no military training and never participated in such activities.
   
   Is Muhammad not allowed the right of freedom of faith?
   
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   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      year 2010 hubber peace price goes to paarsurrey for his peaceful efforts on hubs..

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         paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks you

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So live and let live paarsurrey juts like Muhammad did , why try to glorify your region and negate other religions, its not the way of Muhammad.
      
      Military training or not he fought with the sword to defend himself  killing god knows how many in the processes.
      
      Similar philosophy to the Sikh saints-" when all else fails its okay to pick up the word."

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         paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I only express my faith and; with the spirit of co-existence; yet pointing out the truth I believe in; no compulsion for others.

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            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            No you don't do that you get fanatical at times.You refuse to believe god has sent any more prophets after Muhammad.You also insist all other religions have been corrupted except Islam.

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               paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hi friend mohitmisra
               
               To send Prophets Messengers is only a discretion of the Creator-God Allah YHWH; one cannot force Him to send one.
               
               I think you have got me wrong so I would explain it again. I say that all religions have been secured in two ways:
               
               1.In the character of Muhammmad; into which all truthful character of all the Prophets have been merged very truthfully and rationally.
               
               2.In Quran; all the truthful teachings of all the scriptures that have been lost have been secured; these merge in Quran very truthfully and rationally.The teachings have been included in Quran with a similarity or with needed additions.
               
               This is in honour of all the Prophets and their scriptures which has been bestowed by the Creator-God Allah YHWH and revived them in the  character of Muhammad and Quran.
               
               I only express my faith; others could happily differ with me with reasons.
               
               Thanks
               
               I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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                  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  The Holy Quran doesn't teach man how to merge with god the Light, it is not complete since the Prophet Muhammad was not enlightened himself so how could he teach this highest philosophy.
                  
                  Yes he was a messenger with great wisdom but there have been other like him before ad after him.
                  
                  Look at the world today Hindus, Muslim and Christians at each others throats, god will keep sending messengers till this madness stops.
                  in fact every human with time will gain enlightenment and become a messenger in his own right.

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      nightwork4posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      didn't he marry a child and have many wives?

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      Bikash jhaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Ok guys seriously stop it, why are we pressing this so hard. Mohit thanks to you for taking no body side and being fair. and tm mason i have read your other post too in other forum and seriously you are not less than talibani and are very prejuiced about muslim as whole and parrasurray its okay and we are fine with what you beilieve why are you trying other to bend towards you. Its not the question that whether Islam is peaceful or not, but the question is which religion have been peaceful despite all the great people they were influenced by and all kind of spirituality it teaches.
      Allthough every religion teaches similar thing but we have brutally murdered billion of people now dont start it with who have done it more.
      Everybody have right to choose what they choose for themself, nobody have right to choose a lifestyle or religion or anythingelse for others and you can try to promote your religion in peaceful manners, thats not a big deal but not to force anyone whether in form of violence or emotional blackmailing and we all know we ourself have not followed our religion whether christian, hindu ,muslim,buddhist,sikh, or any else and have caused bloodshed despite of all tolerance and sprituality our religion preached.

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   TMMasonposted 14 years ago

   Mohhamud was a blood thirsty warrior. Though he ran from his first involvement... once he was in charge and had plenty of followers to kill for him.
   
   It was on...
   
   http://www.answeringislam.org/Authors/A … a_jews.htm
   
   Mohhamud schemed together... lead...his army... and waged war against all those who refused to convert. His decree that all Arabia should be Islamic, settled that question.
   
   http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/bios/b1muhammadca.htm
   
   Islam's main imperative is Jihad and the propagation of Islam.
   
   To deny Momo was involved in batles, is just lost...
   
   allah even had to assure his folowers that all that killing and butchering in allah's name was necessary and okay.
   
   Qur'an (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." 
   
   Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.
   
   It is a well known fact Islam is a martial religion... death and submission is inherant within it's essence.
   
   http://islamworld.net/docs/jihad.html

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      He defended himself .

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         TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         From the Hadith we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse. You have to read the A'Hadith Moh... they clearify the intent of the verses... the history behind thier recitation.
         
         You really shuld give em a quick, lol, read if your going to discuss Islam.
         
         So...
         
         Yes, defensively attack those caravans and save the booty from it's rightful owners.

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            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            His philosophy is mind blowing , his knowledge astounding ,such knowledge can only come from divine revelation.
            
            His philosophy is also one of tolerance, he never said convert someone by the sword, it was more live and let live.
            
            I have rarely come across someone philosophy which is so deep and covers so much.

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               paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hi friend mohitmisra
               
               I appreciate and thanks for such a true comments about Muhammad.
               
               Thanks
               
               I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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   TMMasonposted 14 years ago

   Hello paas... I know your there...

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   Ah yes, peaceful and rational muhammad, with the emphasis on the "mad" part.
   
   Qur’an 47:4 “Strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; and after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.”
   
   Luvly! So sane and reasonable!

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