Hi friends
We Muslims have three sources of Guidance:
1. The first and the foremost source of Guidance is Quran authored by the Creator-God Allah YHWH, on the heart of Muhammad and it was memorized as soon as it was revealed by Muhammad and his companions. As an auxiliary measure it was also written down by the scribes as dictated by Muhammad. It was complete before the death of Muhammad. Quran has reached us in its pristine form in human memorized form and in writing also; both supporting one another. The verses of Quran provide claims and reasons in the context of it for which at least five preceding and five following verses must be referred to; in this way Quran explains everything itself and is a complete system in itself; and it needs no extraneous support.
2. The Second source of Guidance is Sunnah. There were teachings in Quran which needed demonstration by the Prophet; so Muhammad demonstrated those teachings with his actions and set his followers on this. As is evident from the above, the Sunnah and Quran existed together and supported one another.
3. Hadith is what Muhammad said but it was not recorded in the life of Muhammad but was written and collected after 250/300 years of his death; and hence it derives its authenticity if it agrees with Quran and Sunnah and don’t’ differ with them. If Hadith states something which has not been mentioned in the Quran expressly or Sunnah or differs with them; and it cannot be interpreted in any way to agree with Quran then it must be discarded and thrown in the waste paper basket.
So, I believe in all the above stated three sources of guidance in the above sense.
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Hi friend Greek One
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's advent has taken place as an caliph/spiritual successor of Muhammad; you know peaceful caliphate/successorship is a permanent institution of Islam as mentioned in Quran:
[24:55] Say, ‘Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger.’ But if you turn away, then upon him is his burden, and upon you is your burden. And if you obey him, you will be rightly guided. And the messenger is not responsible but for the plain delivery of the Message.
[24:56] Allah has promised to those among you who believe and do good works that He will surely make them Successors in the earth, as He made Successors from amongthose who were before them; and that He will surely establish for them their religion which He has chosen for them; and that He will surely give them in exchange securityand peace after their fear: They will worship Me, and they will not associate anything with Me. Then whoso is ungrateful after that, they will be the rebellious.
[24:57] And observe Prayer and give the Zakat and obey the Messenger, that you may be shown mercy.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=53
Please see [24:56] above.
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Hi friend Greek One
You are right there; as Jesus was the follower of Moses and Jesus brought no new guidance except the mythical creeds invented by Paul and ascribed to Jesus. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 has brought no new guidance and follows Quran being the Promised Messiah, Imam Mahdi and Reformer of all Revealed Religions in the End Times.
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Just 2 questions...
1. what did Mirza actually reformed?
2. How can you call him a reformer when most of the world doesnt even know his name & most of the muslims call him imposter?
Hi friend Rishy Rich
He restored the lost balance of all the religions including Islam. He emphasized moderation and convincing others with arguments and reason. All scriptures of the revealed religions being from one source of the Creator-God Allah YHWH,naturally merge in Quran as do all the truthful founders of religions naturally merge into the rational and peaceful character of Muhammad. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad also emphasized that there is no real difference between the Science- Work of God and religion the Word of God.
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Look, Im not talking literature & not interested in poetry. So be specific!! Just answer these following questions with reasons (not poetry):
1. what lost balance he restored actually? you just said '...he restored lost balance of all religions Including Islam'. That means your sect thinks Islam (sunni, shia etc.) is also misguided & lost, right?
2. What moderation he talked about? How did it help us or you to better yourself from other muslims?
3. Whom did Mirza convinced with arguments & reason (except your sect)? Can you show me some factual data which talks about his winning arguments?
4. Mahdi or Jesus is supposed to be a famous worldwide leader. To be frank, none of us heard of himself before you showed up in hubpages. How can you consider him a great Reformer when he couldnt reform his own nation? When he couldnt convert the huge number of hindus & turn in into a muslim country?
Hi friends
Did I mention any poetry?
Please tell our friend Rishy Rich that I never mentioned any poetry in my posts here. Did I?
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Hi friend Rishy Rich
The Muslims have not lost the original text of Quran; it is there in the pristine form; they (Shias, Sunnis etc) only lost its truthful meaning; other religions like Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus; they lost the original Word and also the meaning with it. They don't have the systems of claims and reasons intact in their scriptures.
If they follow Quran where their scriptures have naturally got merged; their scriptures get the system revived again.
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We partly agree. That must be a first.
There is little difference in both of these tomes.
They are both psychotic and filled with hate for their own sky fairy's creations, both written by sexist old goat herders from repeated stories from thousands of years before either of them and based on previous beliefs that were almost as crazy.
Hi friend earnestshub
Please mention clearly which part you agreed with?
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Hi friends
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad though he proved with his brilliant arguments the truth of Quran on ally mythical and illogical creeds of Skeptics and other corrupted religions; but he himself told that he is sowing a seed which will accomplish as a glowing tree of Light in 300 years in the whole world. His message has spread very peacefully in almost 200 countries in just one hundred years; and it will spread to the whole earth as destined by the Creator-God Allah YHWH.
One may like to read a small book of 200 pages "The Philosophy of Teachings of Islam" available on line:
http://www.alislam.org/library/
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-Dude, I asked u to answer 4 questions, but u didnt...it shows how solid ur religion is!
- Only you & ur sect knows what brilliant arguement ur talking about. Because the rest of the world is not aware of it, nor praising it.
Keep living in ur dream boy...Sorry to say but Reality is light years away from your reach.
Oh & By the way - These days pornstars send their pictures over 200 countries within 10 minutes. What ur mirza did is not even noticeable & neither impressive. sigh.
You just asked two questions; you can see.
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I see you have problems in counting too. that explains your ability to analyze ..ok Im pasting it again:
1. what lost balance he restored actually? you just said '...he restored lost balance of all religions Including Islam'. That means your sect thinks Islam (sunni, shia etc.) is also misguided & lost, right?
2. What moderation he talked about? How did it help us or you to better yourself from other muslims?
3. Whom did Mirza convinced with arguments & reason (except your sect)? Can you show me some factual data which talks about his winning arguments?
4. Mahdi or Jesus is supposed to be a famous worldwide leader. To be frank, none of us heard of himself before you showed up in hubpages. How can you consider him a great Reformer when he couldnt reform his own nation? When he couldnt convert the huge number of hindus & turn in into a muslim country?
show me wat u got...
Hi friend
When Muslims deviated from the peaceful and rational path of Quran/Islam/Muhammad ; they resorted to violence and with the passage of time became Extremists.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad brought them back to the moderation; and this is very essential for the peace in the world. Everybody needs it.
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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Hi friend Rishy Rich
I suggest you reading a book; this in fact is a lecture written by him and read in an inter-faith conference. You will yourself witness the power of his convincing others.
"The Philosophy of Teachings of Islam"
I give here contents of the book.
A Grand Piece of News for Seekers after Truth ....................... 10
ISLAM .................................................................. 23
FIRST QUESTION .................................................. 25
The Physical, Moral and Spiritual States of Man .... 25
Three Types of Human Actions ................................................ 26
First Source; the Self That Incites to Evil ................................. 26
Second Source; the Reproving Self .......................................... 27
The Third source; The Soul at Rest .......................................... 28
The soul is created .................................................................... 33
The second birth of the Soul ..................................................... 34
Gradual Progress of Man .......................................................... 34
Distinction Between the Natural and Moral States
and a refutation of the Doctrine
of Preservation of Life ..................................... 37
Three Methods of Reform: The Advent of the Holy Prophet
at the Time of the Greatest Need .................... 39
The True Purpose of the Teachings of the Holy Quran is
the Reform of the Three Conditions:
Natural Conditions by Regulation become
Moral Qualities ................................................ 41
True Morals ......................................................................... 43
Distinction Between Khalq (creation) and Khulq (morals) ...... 44
Natural States of Man ............................................................... 46
Why Is the Flesh of Swine Prohibited ...................................... 52
Moral Condition of Man ........................................................... 53
Moral Qualities Related to the Discarding of Evil .................... 54
Five Remedies Against Unchastity ........................................... 57
Moral Qualities Related to the Doing of Good ......................... 67
True Courage ......................................................................... 76
Truthfulness ......................................................................... 77
Steadfastness ......................................................................... 80
Sympathy for Mankind ............................................................. 81
Search for an Exalted Being ..................................................... 83
The Reason for the Appearance of the Holy Prophet
in Arabia .......................................................... 86
What the World Owes to the Holy Quran ................................. 87
Proof of the Existence of God................................................... 89
Attributes of God ...................................................................... 93
Spiritual Conditions ................................................................ 102
An Excellent Prayer ................................................................ 106
The Meaning of Drinks Prepared From Camphor and Ginger 113
The Effect of Ginger ............................................................... 114
Means of Establishing Perfect Spiritual Relationship
with God ........................................................ 121
SECOND QUESTION ........................................... 127
What is the State of Man after Death? ................... 127
Three Quranic Insights Concerning the Hereafter .................. 132
First Insight ....................................................................... 132
Three Types of Knowledge .................................................... 134
Three Conditions .................................................................... 135
Second Insight ....................................................................... 141
Third Insight ....................................................................... 145
THIRD QUESTION .............................................. 149
The Object of Man’s Life and
the Means of its Attainment .................. 149
Means of the Attainment of Man’s Purpose ........................... 152
FOURTH QUESTION ........................................... 161
The Operation of the Practical Ordinances
of the Law in this Life and the Next ..... 161
The Philosophy of the Oaths of the Holy Quran ..................... 164
FIFTH QUESTION ............................................... 171
Sources of Divine Knowledge ............................... 171
The Nature of Human Conscience .......................................... 176
Meaning of Revelation ........................................................... 179
A Characteristic of Islam ........................................................ 183
The Speaker is Honoured with Divine Converse .................... 184
The Source of Perfect Knowledge is Divine Revelation ........ 185
Two Phases of The Life of the Holy Prophet ......................... 189
The Purpose of The Wars of The Holy Prophet ...................... 194
http://hubpages.com/forum/post/reply/1048085
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Hi friend Rishy Rich
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad does not belong to one nation; he belongs to the whole world. He has reformed all the Religons and the Skeptics; people of all faiths have joined his peaceful and truthful mission in 200 countries of the worlds.
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Hi friend Rishy Rich
First you asked two question; I answered them. Then you asked four questions; now I have answered all four of them one by one. If you ask more; I will answer them.
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Or, maybe you just lied. I would tend towards the latter.
Usmanali (paarsurrey) is instructed to lie when speaking to non-believers. Lying is one of the cornerstones of Islam.
They consider this to be one of the highest ethical standards.
Allah says to lie.
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Peaceful atheist religion-lover.
Paar, unlike u I dont have all day to hang around in hubpages. If someone doesnt answer promptly not necessarily means he/she is a liar. Did the book u mentioned has won any significant awards like nobel prize or booker? Did it achieve any significant attention from the scholars society? Did it provide any significant impact in the muslim society?
The answer to these questions are same: NO!!
i DONT read bullshhit text as my time is considered valuable. If this text had won significant attention in the field of philosophy & theology then I would have heard of it like others, & would have read it long time ago.
By the way, just claiming the Mirza is a man who belongs to the whole world doesnt make him a great personality. He is not even known to most of the indians (his native countrymen). His reforms didnt even impact his motherland. Not to mention that it didnt achieve even a slight portion of attention in the international arena. Theres no point of claiming that he is a reformer & savior of all mankind. Its shameless that u believe in such absurd faith which is completely groundless!
Hi friend Rishy Rich
One of his ardent follower Dr.Abdus Salam has won Noble Prize in Physics.
Did Jesus nor Moses or Krishna or Buddha or Zoroaster or Socrates won any nobel prize? No; they all are above such prizes.
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Dr. Abdus Salam? So he managed 1 notable follower out of 3 billion people (world population at that time)
Ususally people shows the huge list of converts or scholars who accepted a religion. You just got one scientist? And who was a Muslim by Born?? Very funny!
The work of jesus, moses or krishna is not a good representation of Reason & arguement. Those are believes, not brilliant arguments. You dont even know how to compare books. You cant compare poetry & literature with science & rationality books. Since u were constantly saying that your great reformer Mirza proved his points with his brilliant arguments & reasons, then it must have won some kind of attention among the scholars/ philosophers/ atheists/ theologians societies. Unfortunately it didnt. Which proves that this book is quite the opposite of Brilliant!
& even if u continue to compare this book with NT, OT, Tripitaka, then lets consider the following numbers first: Bible copies sold so far:
1. At least 2.5 Billion. Although it is a work of theology, it lacks brilliant argument or reason but has achieved wide acceptance among public.
2. Buddhism doesnt have a single handbook which could be sold easily like Bible or Quran. The Tripitaka or Pali Canon has volumes over 40. Thus its difficult to find the approximate number as readers dont buy all the volumes. How ever, unlike Christianity, Buddhism presents many logical arguments which is often compared to agnosticism or Atheism. This is the only religious book which has been praised by most of the brilliant minds of human civilization ever. From Genius like Albert Einstein, Bertrand Russell, Carl Jung, J. Robert Oppenheimer, Arthur Schopenhauer To personalities like H. G. Wells, Max Muller, Albert Schweitzer & many many many more have either followed or praised Buddhist teachings.
Your author didnt win Nobel or Booker. ok Lets compromise that. But did he receive any attention from such scholar society? No. Its total Bulllshit!!
Hi friend Rishy Rich
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's book was well received by many intellectuals:
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is known to have produced a vast amount of literature. He wrote over eighty books, many of which extend to hundreds of pages. Apart from his books, he is also known to have composed poetry in three different languages, namely Persian, Urdu and Arabic. His writings contain the exposition and explanation of the teaching which he claimed to have received from God. A wide range of subjects are also dealt with such as mysticism and the intricate issues of Islamic theology (often expressing his own interpretation or infusing them with new meanings). Many of his works bear a polemic and apologetic tone. A few of his books were distributed globally during his lifetime. His essay entitled “The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam” was well received by many intellectuals including Leo Tolstoy of Russia.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Ghul … bliography
You better read the book "The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam" appreciated by Tolstoy also. Are you not confident of yourself that you depend on others? Please read the book and then comment and discuss. Have a little courage, please.
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As I said b4, I DONT READ BULLSSHITS!
The kind of appreciation u r talking is nonsense & suits you. Keep reading it, keep kissing it...Suits You!
While we disagree with what Jesus taught (since you want to pick and chose which parts of the bible you beleve in) it's interesting to know that you admitt that you follow someone who brought nothing new to the world at all.
it seems that the differece between Ahmad him and Ronald McDonald is that at least you can get an order of fries when you go to vist the later's temple (and that his congrigation, being over 1 billion served, has far more converts than your guy).
That is clearly a fabrication as all Shia reject the Hadiths of the Sunnah. Any more lies to tell?
Wrong again! The three sources of guidance FOR Muslims is often expressed as 3W's in short, which stands for:
1. WINE
2. WOMEN &
3. WAR!
Now that Jedi is a recognized religion in the UK, I would just like to say.... "May the force be with you"...
Do you think that the Jedi teachings in any way reflect the muslim religion??
Hi friends
When Muslims deviated from the peaceful and rational path of Quran/Islam/Muhammad ; they resorted to violence and with the passage of time became Extremists.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad brought them back to the moderation; and this is very essential for the peace in the world. Everybody needs it.
This may please be understood.
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but my friend how does it help when most muslims reject mirza shaab?
Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim
Allahumma salli ala Muhammadan wa ala alihi wa Sahbihi wa sallim.
I'm sorry but you seem to be making the point that all Muslims are terrorists and falling into extremism, and that only the Qadiani are 'true' Muslims. This is wholly fabrication.
Perhaps you should enlighten those who regularly read your posts that no Muslim group, whether they be Sunni, Shia, Ibadhi or whatever recognise the Ahmadiyyah as Muslims because of the perversion in Islamic doctrine spouted by your founder, Mirza Ahmad. On the fundamentals the Qadiani repudiate, distort and deny a number of points within Islamic theology which to any Muslim, which the Ahmadiyyah are not, is anathema.
Hi friend
We don't care much about the people; we care about what the Creator-God Allah YHWH and his prophet Muhammad says; we are Muslims according to them.
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It looks like you've hit the nail on the proverbial head. Maybe you folks should start...
Actually brother no you are not Muslim according to them - as the Muslim Ummah, who state you are not Muslim are acting on the Shariah ie the Qur'an and Sunnah which have come to us form Allah (swt) and the Prophet Muhammad (saw).
So it is not mere men that are saying you are not Muslim, the two sources of Islamic law (i.e Allah (swt) and Muhammad (saw) ) are saying you are not Muslim.
Also, when the Amman Message gathered together the most prominent Muslim scholars in the world to actually finally define who was a Muslim based on the Qur'an and Sunnah, do you not think it odd that the Ahmadiyya were not asked to participate? Why was that? Because the Qur'an and Sunnah clearly state who is and who is not a Muslim, and sorry bud but your fringe group don't make the cut!
I've never heard of Mirza or Mahdi so since they haven't any influence on Christians, they're not really important to us. As for muslims they seem to still fight a lot amongst themselves. Christians do too but not to the extent that you guys are still.
Hi friend Flightkeeper
He is one person, no many, who is the Promised Messiah or Jesus in Second Coming and Imam Mahdi. His name is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908. You may Google for him; now that he has come, Jesus is not going to come, so it is important for the Christians.
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