‘Symbol of peace’ & understanding: Ahmadiyya Mosque at Galway, Ireland

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   http://eireislam.blogspot.com/2010/09/i … stone.html
   
   http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/26086
   Imam Noonan “Galway people should not be worried that we are a radical organisation as Ahmadiyyas are known throughout the world as a peaceful and peace loving people.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And the website you linked to is attacking Christians in Europe.
      
      Odd definition of peaceful.

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      lady_love158posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No of course not! Islam is a "peaceful" religion and Muslims are a "tolerant" people!
      
      http://content.usatoday.com/communities … csp=34news
      
      As long as you do what they tell you!

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         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Same as Kristians really. Just a few years behind.

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         paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Ahmadiyya Muslims are peaceful people; Ahmadiyya don't hate anybody and love everybody.
         
         http://www.mta.tv/
         
         Through Ahmadiyya not only truthful and peaceful teachings of Quran/Islam/Muhammad have been revived but all the lost teachings of all the Revealed religions have been revived;and this way Ahmadiyya are in centre of all the Religions.
         
         Ahmadiyya believe in interfiath dialogue and for this symoposia are arranged in our mosuques where religous representitives of Jews,Christians,Hindus,Sikhs,Buddhists and even Atheists etc all participate and speak freely.

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            lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Huh? Wait a sec. I thought Bananaism was the center of all religions. You mean, they're not? They lied to me? I think I'm renouncing my peels...

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   Can you get Guinness at this Irish Mosque?
   
   Because if not, then I've got other places to go.

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   psycheskinnerposted 14 years ago

   Dude, why not at least give them a chance to be a good and peaceful part of that community?  You know, benefit fo the doubt and all that?

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      paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The chance is there;everybody speaks about positive points they have in their religion and nobody speaks against anybody. The topics are selected with consultations and consensus and all speakers restrict themselves to the topic.

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         Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         hmmmm.. you kinda bash St Paul who is an important part of my religion, don't you?

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            paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Jesus and Mary are the central focal points of the Christians; not Paul.

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               Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Isn't it a little bold and inappropriate for you to define who is and who isn't a central focal point in my religion; bash someone who by your own definition contributed so much to understanding the nature of Jesus as believed by followers of my religion, and then claim that "everybody speaks about positive points they have in their religion and nobody speaks against anybody."?
               
               You have a particular point of view of the accuracy of St Paul's teaching, a man much revered in my Church.  I have a different point of view, and so does my friend Mark Knowles.
               
               The difference is that Mark doesn't claim to be respectful of views that differ than his or pretend to minimize difference in thinking.
               
               You try to pound the basic tenants of Christian beliefs with as stick, and then claim not to 'speak against anybody'

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         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         But the Islamic website you are promoting is making attacks on the Vatican:
         
         http://eireislam.blogspot.com/2010/09/v … urdah.html
         
         How is that peaceful?

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Vatican City Dress Code for Women:
   
   The Vatican dress code for women stipulates women to wear a black skirt or dress that reaches the knees. The sleeves of the top should be mid to long sleeves, no pants, simple jewelry, dark closed toe shoes. A black hat or veil is optional for the women to wear.
   
   I think the above is in appreciation of Vatican and not anyway against it. The dresscode describes more the dress of Mary whom both Christians and Muslims respect.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Dear me. I know that telling lies is an important part of your religious beliefs but still. Do you think people are too stupid to read the rest?
      
      "Is it not interesting and in fact ironic that  in the very heart of Europe such religious gender specific policy should be practiced. Shall we wait and see what legislation the government of Italy will in-act into their constitution to protect their secular values from Christianists?
      
      Don't hold your breath."

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   I believe in free speech; the site has space for comments; one may express one's thoughts and vent one's feeling there. I won't mind.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I see you have chosen not to address the fact that the Islamic website you are promoting is verbally attacking Catholicism as well as mainstream Muslimism.
      
      How is that peaceful behavior?

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         Don Wposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Pointing out that the anti-Muslim laws in Italy are ironic and implying they are hypocritical is a criticism certainly, but hardly an 'attack'. I don't think calling yourself 'peaceful' precludes you from complaining about or criticising something.
         
         Personally I would have said the anti-Muslim laws in Italy are ironic and hypocritical, and the people who ratified them are ignorant, incompetent, narrow-minded buffoons who deserve be sacked and prosecuted by the European Court of Human Rights. I think that would qualify more as a verbal attack.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            How interesting. What anti Muslim laws are these? Oh - yes - 2 competing "peaceful" religions making laws against the other.
            
            Unfortunately - you have no voice and appear to be just a troll. I mean this as constructive advice - it is in no way intended as a criticism.
            
            Peaceful atheist.

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               Don Wposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               If you want to categorise criminalising the expression of a particular religious belief as an attack on that religion, then I agree. In fact it is also a violation of the European Charter of Human Rights, and the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. But you suggested the author of the above article was verbally 'attacking' the Vatican. He wasn't.
               
               He simply pointed out that it was 'interesting' and 'ironic' that the Vatican should have rules about how women dress which seem to go unchallenged. His argument may be flawed for various reasons, but it can hardly be characterised as a verbal 'attack'.
               
               And your example of calling someone a 'troll', then mitigating it by suggesting it's constructive advice is not analogous at all. The author did not use any derogatory terms in the article, nor were his observations unsupported with factual evidence, or expressed in a severe or particularly hostile way. To the contrary, he expressed a critical opinion which he supported with objectively verifiable information, and he did it in a moderate and reasonable way. In fact the criticism is not even explicit. It is merely implied by the context in which the words 'interesting' and 'ironic' are used. I fail to see how the author could have been any more restrained.
               
               Being peaceful does not prevent someone expressing a critical opinion. It's no contradiction for me to consider myself peaceful and criticise your argument. In fact that's exactly what I've just done. You haven't just been verbally 'attacked'. Your argument has been criticised, that is all. The Muslim author above did not 'attack' the Vatican, or Christianity, or any individual. He made a criticism, backed it up with some evidence, and expressed it in a moderate way. There is a difference between that and a verbal attack.

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                  paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Hi friend Don W
                  
                  I agree with you and appreciate your charitable approach.
                  
                  Thanks
                  
                  I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   ‘Symbol of peace’ & understanding: Ahmadiyya Mosque at Galway, Ireland

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   it's right in the name Mark, cant you see?!?!

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   BDazzlerposted 14 years ago

   Mark, Greek, we all know that
   
   1) As soon as the world agrees with me, there will be peace. 
   2) Everyone is free to worship as I please.
   3) As soon as we kill all the killers there will be no killers left, except those who killed the killers. They will, of course, need to be killed.
   4) Intolerance will not be tolerated.
   5) Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
   
   
   

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      Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      the peaceful spread of BDazzler across cyberspace
      
      

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      Don Wposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And of course:
      
      6) some are more equal than others
      7) do as I say, not as I do

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         BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Of course!

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   I am thankful to the authorities in Ireland who approved of building a Mosque at Galway, Ireland ; a tolerant people.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. No attacks made here. Irish people almost never kill each other over religious differences.

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    SilentReedposted 14 years ago

    The people of Galway sleep in blissful ignorance, while the termites slowly gnaw their house's foundation. Unknown to most , it's the fifth column slowly spreading.

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    paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

    I think Galway people are blessed with an Ahmadiyya Mosque there.

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    paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

    "Imam Noonan wants the mosque be seen as a friendly and welcoming place for all people, regardless of religion, and he is keen it should also be made open to community groups, organisations, and associations, for meetings, gatherings, and events.
    
    “I intend that the mosque will hold interfaith meetings and that if a residents association or club wanted to hold a meeting that they could do it there,” he says. “It’s about being part of the locality and the wider community.” "

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