Ahmadiyya Caliph visits Shroud of Jesus at Turin

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Mirza Masroor Ahmad, Fifth Caliph of the Promised Messiah 1835-1908 went to see the Holy Shroud of Jesus at Turin.
   
   A short peaceful dialogue took place.
   
   On Monday, 20 April 2010, Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, Khalifatul Masih V(aba), Fifth Successor to the Promised Messiah(as) and Head of the Worldwide Ahmadiyya Muslim community, visited the Shroud of Turin Exhibit in Turin, Italy, becoming the first Khalifa to observe the Shroud in person (Mr Fatir Malik, President Ahmadiyya Muslim community Italy had suggested that Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih V(aba) visit the Exhibition during his visit to Italy and Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih V(aba) agreed. Mr Malik spoke to Church officials who were happy to arrange for Hudhur(aba) to visit). Upon reaching the Shroud Exhibit, Hudhur (aba) was greeted by the Director of the Exhibition, Monsignor Ghiberti, and escorted through a special entrance.
   
   http://www.reviewofreligions.org/2472/h … xhibition/

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      Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'll take turn of the century religious vacations for $100, Alex

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      Rishy Richposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      As far as I knw...A caliph is selected by & accepted from whole Islamic community. How come Ahmadiya has a Caliph when it is not even accepted as a Muslim community by majority Muslims?

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         Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         self appointed...
         
         the same way I am "King of all I See"

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            Rishy Richposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Oh...I didnt knw this is how it works. Hmm...So where should I appoint myself...(thinking)...(thinking) ...hey man when will u retire? 

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               Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               just need $900,000 more in Adsense revenue.. a few short clicks away

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                  Rishy Richposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Damn...I better look for some other posts

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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So, when will the Islamic world allow non-Muslims into Mecca thus show the same courtesies?

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         Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Get with the news, Beelzedad..
         
         the already built special urinals to prepare for the influx of non-Muslims arriving in Mecca..
         
         

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Professor Don Tino Negri:
   
   how are you related to the Founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community?
   
   Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih V(aba):
   
   my relationship is that of great grandson but this relationship has nothing to do with the Khilafat. An electoral college is convened for the elections of Khilafat, as the Pope is elected, behind closed doors. Hence in 2003, at the demise of the Fourth Khalifa(rh), members of the Electoral College, who were from amongst notable persons from all over the world, elected a person behind closed doors; in fact, it was inside a Mosque.
   It is Allah’s extraordinary Grace that I have come for the first time and the Shroud of Turin Exhibition is on show. I have heard that usually this exhibition takes place every 25 years, but this time it occurred after 10 years. Nevertheless, I held a great desire to see this and Allah has provided me with this opportunity, and I said that I ought to see it.
   http://www.reviewofreligions.org/2472/h … xhibition/
   
   Khalifa means Caliph in English; Khilafat is Caliphate in Englihs.
   
   When Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the Promised Messiah or Second Coming died in 1908; his spiritual Caliphs suceeded him:
   
   Hakim Nooruddin was the First Caliph of the Promised Messiah.
   Mirza Mahmood Ahmad- the Second Caliph
   Mirza Nasir Ahmad- the Third Caliph
   Mirza Tahir Ahmad- the Fourth Caliph
   Mirza Masroor Ahmad- the Fifth Caliph; who is our living Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim world-wide-community.

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      Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm confused... wasn't the Fifth Caliph selected on the TV show Pakistan's Got Talent?

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         Rishy Richposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         

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            Rishy Richposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            And didnt he perform a live on stage 69 degree? 

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               Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               he did a duet with Susan Boyle I think

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                  Rishy Richposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  u mean metaphorically?

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                     Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Susan is EVERYWHERE

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                        Kathryn LJposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        An omnipresent Scottish woman - the mind boggles.

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                           Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           woman!?!?!?!!?!?

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         paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         The election of the Fifth Caliph took place in London as the Fourth Caliph died there and is buried there.
         
         Essence of the Ahmadiyya Khilafat
         
         The Ahmadiyya Khilafat differs significantly from the misplaced
         aspirations of some Muslim groups for political and militaristic dominance
         over the entire world. The Ahmadiyya Khilafat is apolitical; spiritual and
         religious in nature. Thus, the Ahmadis do believe in the concept of
         “separation of the State and Church”. While respecting the will of the people
         to adopt varying political systems that may suit them for beneficial
         administration of their public affairs, it does not aspire for political authority.
         Though the ideal Islamic state calls for the head of the government to
         exercise both the secular and religious authority, the institution of Khilafat
         can and should remain focused on moral and spiritual matters only,
         providing necessary guidance to the political leaders to the maintenance of
         justice and social harmony.
         
         http://www.alislam.org/topics/khilafat/ … iphate.pdf
         
         One who is interested in the life sketch of our present Caliph may access:
         
         http://www.alislam.org/khilafat/fifth/
         http://www.alislam.org/v/21.html

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            Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            and how many electors where there and who appointed these 'wise men'?

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               paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Please visit the websites given by me and you will know the deatails.

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                  Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Are you just posting links to different websites like a religious marketer, or are you here to discuss topics?
                  
                  Surely you would know general estimates of how many electors there are and what their qualifications there might be

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Ahmadiyya Caliph visits Shroud of Jesus at Turin

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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      To visit Mecca is forbidden.

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Shroud of Turin shows Jesus was alive when taken hurriedly to the tomb; he never died on the Cross in the first place.

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   "Monsignor Ghiberti:
   
   what in particular motivated you to come and see the Shroud of Turin?
   
   Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih V(aba):
   
   We were previously unaware that the Shroud of Turin was being exhibited. It was by chance that this programme came about and the community informed us that the Shroud of Turin Exhibition would be taking place during these days. We are from that section of Muslims who believe that the Shroud of Turin was actually used for the Messiah, peace be upon him, although our views differ. According to us, Jesus(as) was a great, and appointed, Prophet of God. According to Jewish teachings, as crucifixion was something inappropriate for a Prophet, when the Jews put him on the cross, God saved Jesus(as) from crucifixion. And we believe the Founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community is the Promised Messiah of this age. He stated that the Messiah (i.e. Jesus(as)), was treated and Allah granted him life thereafter. This is why I was interested in seeing this Shroud."

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   "Professor Don Tino Negri:
   
   how are you related to the Founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community?
   
   Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih V(aba):
   
   my relationship is that of great grandson but this relationship has nothing to do with the Khilafat. An electoral college is convened for the elections of Khilafat, as the Pope is elected, behind closed doors. Hence in 2003, at the demise of the Fourth Khalifa(rh), members of the Electoral College, who were from amongst notable persons from all over the world, elected a person behind closed doors; in fact, it was inside a Mosque.
   
   It is Allah’s extraordinary Grace that I have come for the first time and the Shroud of Turin Exhibition is on show. I have heard that usually this exhibition takes place every 25 years, but this time it occurred after 10 years. Nevertheless, I held a great desire to see this and Allah has provided me with this opportunity, and I said that I ought to see it."

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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yet, no matter how much a desire one has to see Mecca, Allah has forbidden it.

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Mirza Masroor Ahmad, Fifth Caliph of the Promised Messiah 1835-1908 went to see the Holy Shroud of Jesus at Turin.
   
   Is it the shroud Jesus was wrapped in when he was laid in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea; a genuine one?

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      Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely no proof the shroud is real!  Some think it was a practical joke by Da Vinci!  It can only be dated back to the 16th century.

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   mikelongposted 14 years ago

   Yup...its too bad that the "shroud" is a fraud... 
   
   Will the lab holding the corroborating Jesus DNA samples please stand up?

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