Understanding science is understanding God

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   thirdmilleniumposted 12 years ago

   Einstein said: If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
   
   Does it not imply that the structure of the world was planned and executed by somebody? That it is not evolution that caused the structure to take shape on its own?
   
   Einstein did not believe in a personal God and considered it even naive to believe in the concept. This can be quite true from the way God seemingly treats prayers. You pray for years and your prayers go unanswered. Some one who doesn't even give a thought to God, much less pray, seems to be having all his legitimate wishes fulfilled.
   
   So, God, in a general and  broad perspective, exists.

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      Simon.Acklandposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Just a comment about that last part, about prayer.. In my opinion people have got the whole idea of prayer totally wrong. If we go around asking for different things that we think we need, then we are only confirming to ourselves that we don't have whatever it is. Although I believe it is possible to manifest anything we could dream of, it takes a totally different process.
      In my opinion, and the opinion of a lot of ancient traditions, prayer should be about giving thanks. Not wanting stuff, but thanking for what we have.
      By thanking, instead of wanting, we open ourselves up to more good things, and our subconscious will attract more of what we are thankful for.

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      science as we presently know is unable to convey true knowledge of God.
      
      though all knowlege belongs to God and science is because of this, the poblem is not what science think it is.
      
      they seek after more knowledge, but God is found not by knowing more but thinking different.

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      Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Your conclusions appear to be exact opposite of what the above quote is submitting.
      
      Science is revealing the world around us, giving us an understanding of how it works, and so far, science has in no way even remotely suggested that our world was "planned and executed by somebody" and does in fact strongly suggest through hard evidence that evolution is the main driver and did come about on its own.
      
      It is this revealing the "unbounded admiration" is referring to in the quote.
      
      
      
      Doesn't your prayer example actually suggest god doesn't exist?

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         thirdmilleniumposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         No sir, It merely shows that God is not bothered about our prayers. The reason? We pray but do not deserve to be paid attention to

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            Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Perhaps, but that still does not align with your logic in the OP.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Understanding science is understanding some of the attributes of the Creator-God.

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   Pearldiverposted 12 years ago

   Wow.... Have You Considered Becoming AN EXPERT on this subjective issue?

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      thirdmilleniumposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hello PD, long time....Well, thank you but I am still a seeker of the absolute truth though I am convinced  scientific minds always are fairly convinced of the existence of God though they don't say it aloud in so many words.

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         Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Oh Mate!
         
         I feel sooo Sorry for the poor Donkey that carries you up, down, under, over, around, through and back to the start all over again... in this quest, that has cost the lives of many donkeys gone before!

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            thirdmilleniumposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Well, I double as my Donkey

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               Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Be Well Mate... Take Care
               
               And may your carrot always dangle in a forward direction!

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                  thirdmilleniumposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Ha, this donkey is non-vegetarian and likes brittle meat

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   superwagsposted 12 years ago

   It rather depends on what you concept of "god" is. If it's a god of the gaps, then yes, it is.

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   Evan G Rogersposted 12 years ago

   I love the logic of the OP:
   
   "The universe has to have been created. Thus there has to be a god!"
   
   (Psst, go one step further with your logic: "if a god exists, who created him?", now go one step further... then another... ... ... welcome to infinity)

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   just_curiousposted 12 years ago

   Not sure I'd agree with all of it, but I believe your last statement to be dead on.

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      whether you agree disagree is really does not matter...
      
      But when you know you would also see this as true..
      
      99% of this world knowledge including the religious is worthless when it comes to the reality of god...therefore i say its plain ignorance..and good for nothing.

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   wildernessposted 12 years ago

   Your logic and reasoning escapes me.
   
   Einstein did not believe in God.  Einstein admired the structure of the world.  Therefore his actions imply a God?  If so I cannot see it.  I admire the structure of the Pleiades, but it does not imply a God.  Admiring the structure of a leaf does not imply evolution does not exist or that there is a God.
   
   Prayers go unanswered, but some who don't pray seem to get what they want.  Therefore God exists.  Again, I lose the train of logic completely.

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   Flightkeeperposted 12 years ago

   God answers prayers, and the answer is either yes or no and either answer is fine.

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      Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Except if you're starving to death and you're praying for food. Then, it's not so fine if the answer is no, is it?

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Understanding science is understanding God
   
   Science if truthful is Work of the Creator-God.
   
   Hence understanding science is understanding some of the attributes of the Creator-God.

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      Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Science does not recognize your god or any other gods as existing. You must be very angry about that.

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Science is the work of the Creator-God as is Quran the Word of the Creator-God; both lead to knowing the attributes of God.

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