If you were god, would you let adam, eve & satan live for a while?

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   mecheilposted 13 years ago

   Suppose this god is real (and you were this god), and his (or your) sovereignty was challenged by rebels, would you kill the rebels right then and there? Or would you rather let them live for a while to give them time to prove something to themselves?

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      Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It seems as though people that doubt the existence of a God seem to use a book (Bible) which they profess to not believe, as their proof that a God does not exist.
      
      
      
          Am I the only one that can NOT see the rationall in that logic?
      
      
          To doubt the written word as protrayed in a book is one thAng.
         To use that book that they acknowledge as false for their basis for not believing in a higher power ???   
      
      
          That ain't scientiFick  thinkin!
      
          A fifth grader can see that that logic is flawed.

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         Titen-Sxullposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The Bible is the source of knowledge about the Christian God, all Christians use it in some capacity. If the Bible is at all accurate in its depiction of Yahweh than it makes perfect sense to stop believing as no evidence of an omnipotent omnipresent child murdering psychopath has ever been discovered.
         
         While I agree that people should not solely base their disbelief on the Bible I don't think there are many that do. For me the lack of evidence for God is my reason for disbelieving, the issues with the Bible were merely the first step toward doubting what I'd been indoctrinated with. Even if the Bible didn't exist or was logically sound there would still be ample justification for the rejection of God claims, namely the complete lack of evidence in favor of any god(s).

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         Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Why not? man was made in God’s image and if I were God, why not allow Adam and eve to live, I would just not enforce the naked rule.
         
         Get rid of Satan, I would get rid of any overly negative creature

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            mecheilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            i don't like the naked rule either.

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            Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You said ..
            Get rid of Satan, I would get rid of any overly negative creature
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               Just like religion has been doing!  ?????????

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               Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               The only over negative person I got rid of in my life was my ex wife, Satan would be worst,  I hope.
               
               Murder is out of the question , lock Satan up and help his illness.

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         mecheilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         make us all believe, then

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            Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Do ya realy want me to ??

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               mecheilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               sure!

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                  Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  This can be done.   You would have to forget everything that you think that you have learned ....   and look at it with fresh eyes.    And realy see what you are looking at. 
                      Can you do that ?

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                     mecheilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     can you do make me believe without asking me that?

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                     pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     @jerami well that applies to you too...forget bible , jesus and god concept...look from entirely new view ...you would be convinced that last thing which can exist is god as defined by religion...which includes jesus and others...

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      Titen-Sxullposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I would forgive Adam and Eve because before eating the fruit they had no ability to tell right from wrong and thus cannot be judged all that harshly for disobeying. Like a child who accidentally touches a hot stove even after being warned I'd be more concerned with their well being than with the fact they disobeyed.
      
      As for Satan he actually started a war against God, that's completely different from the Adam and Eve eating the fruit.

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         mecheilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         we have an understanding god here...
         
         but i disagree that Adam and Eve did not have the ability to tell right from wrong, because they were made perfect humans. are you saying that imperfect people are much much intelligent than perfect humans? or is that what the bible says?

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            Titen-Sxullposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The fruit gave them knowledge of Good and Evil, in order for that to make a difference they would have to be ignorant of good and evil. So they couldn't have known that eating the fruit was wrong. That's probably why God tells them the fruit will KILL them, because telling them its evil would be meaningless to people with no knowledge of Good and Evil.

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               mecheilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               so perfect humans did not have knowledge of good and evil. or was it satan who tried to say, "Eve! Eve! Eve! Why are you always obeying god? Decide for your own what is good and what is evil, for once! And then whispering to himself, "and discover what an idiot you are if you listen to me!"

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                  Titen-Sxullposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Well the Genesis account never says the humans were perfect from the start, though I question how a perfect God goes about creating something imperfect. But in order for knowledge of good and evil to do any damage they would have to lack that knowledge to begin with. Satan tells them the fruit will open their eyes, in reference to the new knowledge it will give them. In essence the fruit takes away their ignorance and innocence. You can see in their reaction after eating, only after they eat the fruit do they realize they made a mistake and they hide from God.

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                  Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  What no one seems to understand is that there has never been given directions to get Ya all the way there!
                  
                     What little bit that we have is only complete enough to point us in the right direction.
                  
                     If we are too dumb to figure it out from there ??   
                    Do we realy belong there ?

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   Titen-Sxull wrote ...
     Even if the Bible didn't exist or was logically sound there would still be ample justification for the rejection of God claims, namely the complete lack of evidence in favor of any god(s).
   
   
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       Can Ya see the insanity ??

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      Titen-Sxullposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I fail to see what's insane about rejecting a claim based on a lack of evidence.
      
      I reject Reptilian Aliens, Bigfoot and the existence of Elves for much the same reason.

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   I fail to see what's insane about rejecting a claim based on a lack of evidence.
   
   
   
   
   
      If you were a juror in a trial;  and all the so called evidence was (in your mind)  corrupted;  how could you make any kind of assertation ?   truth    OR   Not   ?

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      Titen-Sxullposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      We're not dealing with corrupted evidence.
      
      What we're dealing with is a situation in which there is no evidence, only hearsay and superstition. If all the Prosecution has to prove its case is hearsay and superstition I think I'm justified to rule Not Guilty. I'm sure you are familiar with innocent until proven guilty... Well all gods are fictional until proven real.

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