qustion for judaisme

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    darknight444posted 12 years ago

    well haloo evry one

    from my understanding to judaisme the torah was the the start even to the jews in judaisme there was no texts to suporte the profecy of davide and saloman but considere them as profets and the profecy of the son of moses and thy were all profets
    even davide book the psalme is considered as e text of judaisme

    soo the atitude aboute the profecy zakaria and jhon and jesus and mohamed  from where is the source of that attitude

    that attitude :is there e claire text in the taura that stop the profecy or it s from the jewish rabbays

    and thanks

    1. livelonger profile image87
      livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There are specific requirements for someone to be considered a prophet according to Jewish law. One is that prophecy can only occur when the majority of Jews are living in the land of Israel. That was not the case with Jesus or many others who have claimed to be prophets, when the majority of Jews were living outside the land of Israel in the diaspora.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      ________________________

      The Hebrew book of scriptures is called the "Tanakh".
      A lot of people think it is only the Torah and that
      they only accept the five books of the Torah and nothing else.

      The Tanakh contains:

      The Torah (The Teachings, the Law)
      The Nəḇî'îm (The Prophets)
      and
      the Ketuvim (The Writings, like Psalms, Proverbs etc)

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    darknight444posted 12 years ago

    ,,,,,ne is that prophecy can only occur when the majority of Jews are living in the land of Israe,,,,,

    pls you have e text of the taura that support that

    1. livelonger profile image87
      livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It's not in the Torah. The Nevi'im is the 2nd part of the Bible, after the Torah (which is the first part).

      The Bible simply states that Malachi was the last prophet, and points to the end of prophecy until the coming of the Messiah. It's in the Talmud where it was speculated that when the Messiah returns, the world's Jews will return to Israel, and prophecy will resume.

      This is just the traditional belief according to Rabbinic Judaism.

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        darknight444posted 12 years agoin reply to this

        well moses have only the torah as revealed to him by god

        the palsme is revealed to david

        soo the other books are not e revealed but written by the jews

        we come back ,
        do you have e proofs from the the taura or it s just what the jewish rabbay words????

        1. livelonger profile image87
          livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Moses was a prophet, too. That's why Jews revere his words as the words of G-d, and not the rantings of a madman.

          I know Muslims and Christians dispute the way Jews define a prophet or the messiah, but they are our definitions. If you have different definitions, that's fine. But they are not necessarily ours.

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            darknight444posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            pls focuse with me
            pls i m soory but you missunderstand me probably because my bad taping

            i ask you e question
            1 moses only came with the torah as e devine wod of god and i accept that
            2,david came with the Psalms  as e devine word of god and i accpet that too

            thise too books dont have the basiques textes that you used to reject a lots of profets
            the problem is in the other books like The Nəḇî'îm (The Prophets)

            when you told me that you based the rejecction of the elots of profets on that i ask you is thise e revealed book by god  or it s the words of the rabbays ???

            1. livelonger profile image87
              livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Most (like 99%) of Jews believe that a written Torah was revealed to Moses at Sinai, but also an oral Torah was also revealed to him but not written until the codification of the Mishna in the 2nd century by the rabbis. This is evidenced by the incompleteness of the Torah ("do it like I told you" with respect to the temple sacrifices, for example) in parts; the gaps are filled by the oral Torah.

              There is a small number of Jews (Karaites and Samaritans) who, along with Christians and Muslims, do not follow the oral Torah.

              1. Greek One profile image64
                Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                you are mistaken, livelonger

                1. livelonger profile image87
                  livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Aren't I always? big_smile

                  1. Greek One profile image64
                    Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    i don't know.. just trying to be argumentative

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                darknight444posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                pls dont let me repeat my self and focuse
                soo thise just the words of the rabbays

                1. livelonger profile image87
                  livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes. Isn't that what your religion teaches you?

                  1. MelissaBarrett profile image58
                    MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Yeah, I tried using that tactic for an entire thread.  Irony is useless.  That scratches logic, sarcasm, empathy, irony, and public chastisement off the list.  I think I'm gonna go with duck tape next.

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                darknight444posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                well i just had my reponce oral torah could be easlly editet by the jewish rabbays
                just e cairification islam id not like cristianity
                islam dont use the torah at all but
                islamique belifs aquire to belive in the torah as e devine word of god and e guidance to the children of israel but it does jnot use it at all

                because in the islamique beliefes jesus was e chance given by god to correct  the message of moses the torah because the rabbays change it

  3. Greek One profile image64
    Greek Oneposted 12 years ago

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see now

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      darknight444posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      you re jew????

 
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