If Time is a dimension then why isn't Consciousness?

Jump to Last Post 1-6 of 6 discussions (29 posts)
  1. LewSethics profile image59
    LewSethicsposted 6 years ago

    The Spatial Dimensions are WHERE THINGS HAPPEN.
    Time is WHERE THINGS HAPPEN.
    Consciousness is also WHERE THINGS HAPPEN.
    Just sayin.

    1. rbe0 profile image59
      rbe0posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Who says it isn't?

    2. melpor profile image91
      melporposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Time is quantifiable and has a direction with respect to a reference point just like the other three known dimensions height, width, and depth. Consciousness does not have either of these qualities. Consciousness is awareness only and is just a state of our mind.

      1. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Consciousness isn't dimensional because it exists outside the confines of time/space. No spatial relationship.

        1. Druid Dude profile image60
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Energy also isn't defined by dimension.

        2. melpor profile image91
          melporposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Consciousness is our awareness that we are a living being. When we die our consciousness ceases as well because it is the result of all the electrochemical and biochemical reactions occurring in our brain. The white light people claim they see during  near death experience is the brain shutting down because of its chemical processes are slowly coming to an end.

          1. Druid Dude profile image60
            Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Dust stays here, water stays here. Consciousness could survive, much like a radio wave survives, in the realms of energy. Check into Noetics. Consciousness could be a state of energy.

            1. Cagsil profile image82
              Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Actually, consciousness has no energy attached to it and isn't energy in itself. Which is why it ceases at brain death.

              1. psycheskinner profile image83
                psycheskinnerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Indeed. It is more like a collection of chemicals and membranes, which fall afoul of entropy when life ceases.

    3. profile image0
      Deborah Sextonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      *****************************

      A dimension is the measurement of movement.
      The movement that we as humans are aware of is

          Up and down or Height
          Back and forth or Length
          Side to side or Width


      By this definition, physically we live in a three dimensional world.

    4. A Troubled Man profile image59
      A Troubled Manposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      You probably need to use Hamiltonian equations that use the sum of all the potential and kinetic energy in a closed system, like the brain. smile

  2. LewSethics profile image59
    LewSethicsposted 6 years ago

    Well, most references to the 'Four Dimensional Space-Time Continuum' don't include a fifth dimension.

    1. Druid Dude profile image60
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Billy Davis Jr.

  3. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

    No, a dimension is a continuum expressing expansion in space and time.  Consciousness is awareness of self that is implicated located in one point in all four dimensions.

  4. Pcunix profile image90
    Pcunixposted 6 years ago

    Many religious people have to believe that consciousness is more than what it is.  Without that belief, there is no possibility of the silly life after death they hope for.

    That's why they'll never accept reality on this subject.  They can't.

    1. Cagsil profile image82
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, anyone who makes the claim that consciousness exists or continues to exist after brain death, just doesn't understand consciousness.

      1. psycheskinner profile image83
        psycheskinnerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        But, but, where does the light go when you snuff out a candle...?

        1. Cagsil profile image82
          Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Okay, I'll bite....what light? lol

        2. Pcunix profile image90
          Pcunixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Where does the light go when you DON'T snuff out a candle?  That's another way to ask the same question.

  5. Druid Dude profile image60
    Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago

    Well, actually, I believe less in life after death than I do re-cycling or re-combining elements which are already incapsulated in this universe. If something is said to simply de-exist, then that, in itself is a scientific impossibility. What doesn't stay here, still exists in a different form, such as the released energy of a log after it has been fully consumed. When a star goes nova, what it was has merely changed form. Your brain waves, the act of thinking produces measurable energetic "signals" which we call brain waves. This energy doesn't simply cease to exist, nor, can it. I didn't make this up. It's science, whether you believe it or not. Have a nice day:)

    1. Pcunix profile image90
      Pcunixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Your brain waves are no more "consciousness" than the radio waves emitted by your computer are a spreadsheet.

      That isn't "science" - it's uninformed nonsense.

  6. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

    What we call "brainwaves" are charged ions moving through cell membranes.  All that stuff eventually becomes other stuff. Experience of person hood does not go along with it.

    1. Cagsil profile image82
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I'll add that consciousness isn't something that goes along for the ride either.

    2. Druid Dude profile image60
      Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Excuse me. I used to do EEG's and you are mistaken. Just what makes those sguiggly lines your Dr. always steps back and says "Hmmmm!" about? It is this very fact which is being used to attempt to create the next generation of computational devices. Brain waves produce energy. Measurable amounts of it.

      1. Cagsil profile image82
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        And in brain death, it no longer produces energy. Meaning, that energy is transformed into something not measurable.

        1. Druid Dude profile image60
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          And your point?

          1. Cagsil profile image82
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Since it's transformed into something that isn't measurable, there's no experience, memory or consciousness. It doesn't go with it...all CEASE to exist.

      2. Pcunix profile image90
        Pcunixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        So does your computer.  But those waves are not capable of doing computing tasks, are they?

      3. psycheskinner profile image83
        psycheskinnerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah, me too. In a research setting I was that Dr.  That's why I know what the brain waves are, and it ain't electrons. It is "ionic current".  Charged ions separated by a cell wall membrane. It is "energy" produced by ions in solution separated by membranes--not some disembodied magical force that can float off into the aether.

 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://hubpages.com/privacy-policy#gdpr

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)