This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: "https://hubpages.com/privacy-policy#gdpr"

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
jump to last post 1-4 of 4 discussions (21 posts)

Invention or discovery?

  1. janesix profile image60
    janesixposted 6 years ago

    Is mathematics an invention of the human mind, or are mathematical laws already in existance, waiting to be discovered by humans? Even modern mathematicians cant agree on this.

    1. paradigmsearch profile image92
      paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I submit that pi existed before man.

      1. janesix profile image60
        janesixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Cherry or apple?

        1. paradigmsearch profile image92
          paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          You have just reminded me that I terribly miss Lemon Meringue Pie. big_smile

      2. Eric Newland profile image60
        Eric Newlandposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        How about compound interest?

        1. paradigmsearch profile image92
          paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Come to think of it, breeding bacteria would be an excellent demonstration of that.

          1. Eric Newland profile image60
            Eric Newlandposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Are you talking about bankers or those little microscopic organisms?

            1. paradigmsearch profile image92
              paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              There's a difference?

              1. Eric Newland profile image60
                Eric Newlandposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Ok, how about imaginary numbers?

                1. paradigmsearch profile image92
                  paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Imaginary numbers are used to describe electromagnetism, fluid dynamics, quantum mechanics, etc. All of which existed before man.

    2. mischeviousme profile image60
      mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Mathematics are a relationship of quantified values, a way of measuring the quantity, velocity, angle and so on, of things and stuff...

      1. janesix profile image60
        janesixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Yes. So is that an invention or a discovery?

        1. mischeviousme profile image60
          mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          An invention of perception and because it can be weighed against reality, I'd have to say it's a very useful invention.

    3. kess profile image61
      kessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      All things are already existing....it is called existance,

      so your question is actually asking 'how do you describe the process where by something is brought Ito your awareness?'


      What term would you use?
      Discovery or rediscovery?
      Invention or reinvention?
      Creation or recreation?
      Enlightenment or re enlightenment?
      Realization?

      Then you should see the problem only exist because you try to encompass the understanding with a word.

      Words by their nature have contrary meaning.

      1. janesix profile image60
        janesixposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        If there is a mathematical formula or concept, then does it HAVE to exist in reality? Take infinity for instance.

        1. mischeviousme profile image60
          mischeviousmeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          The human brain is a storage device. It has it's own filing system and it transmits to the self, a preconditioned, impulsive response. It's the rationality of mathematics, that makes all this stuff real.

        2. kess profile image61
          kessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          The reality of a person is constructed in his own mind...so therefore if it is a concept in your mind it exist in your reality.

          A mathematical expression for existence is ++ existence is infinite.

  2. paradigmsearch profile image92
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    And we need to get janesix closer to 100 followers! smile

  3. dudumodu profile image60
    dudumoduposted 6 years ago

    My candid opinion is that man has never and is not capable of inventing anything. Everything we claim to have invented was previously created by God. To posit otherwise is to praise the man who noticed that the darkest hour is nearest morning above He who arranged that it be so.

    1. A Troubled Man profile image61
      A Troubled Manposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      So, men are just mindless puppets on a string?

  4. dudumodu profile image60
    dudumoduposted 6 years ago

    Far from it. Man occupies a much higher position than that in the estimation of God. Fact is, God has invited him to be a partaker in the eternal process of "creation". This is the reason why the Bible says " ye are little gods".However,this is all happening within a given frame, God's unltimate mastership. Now, by what we know of dialectics, man arrives at his great inventions by struggling with nature. This is the input he has to give in order to arrive at that great moment when heaven reckons that he has done enough either as individual or as a race and then rewards him with a revelation or any other form of previously unknown height of achievement like a world record..It is also the reason why the most pertinent definition of Good Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.It is a bit mystical,but as we say in Yorubaland " If you will only put your eyes in the proper angle, you will surely see your nose"

 
working