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Invention or discovery?

  1. janesix profile image60
    janesixposted 5 years ago

    Is mathematics an invention of the human mind, or are mathematical laws already in existance, waiting to be discovered by humans? Even modern mathematicians cant agree on this.

    1. paradigmsearch profile image84
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I submit that pi existed before man.

      1. janesix profile image60
        janesixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Cherry or apple?

        1. paradigmsearch profile image84
          paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You have just reminded me that I terribly miss Lemon Meringue Pie. big_smile

      2. Eric Newland profile image60
        Eric Newlandposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        How about compound interest?

        1. paradigmsearch profile image84
          paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Come to think of it, breeding bacteria would be an excellent demonstration of that.

          1. Eric Newland profile image60
            Eric Newlandposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Are you talking about bankers or those little microscopic organisms?

            1. paradigmsearch profile image84
              paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              There's a difference?

              1. Eric Newland profile image60
                Eric Newlandposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Ok, how about imaginary numbers?

                1. paradigmsearch profile image84
                  paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Imaginary numbers are used to describe electromagnetism, fluid dynamics, quantum mechanics, etc. All of which existed before man.

    2. mischeviousme profile image58
      mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Mathematics are a relationship of quantified values, a way of measuring the quantity, velocity, angle and so on, of things and stuff...

      1. janesix profile image60
        janesixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yes. So is that an invention or a discovery?

        1. mischeviousme profile image58
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          An invention of perception and because it can be weighed against reality, I'd have to say it's a very useful invention.

    3. kess profile image60
      kessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      All things are already existing....it is called existance,

      so your question is actually asking 'how do you describe the process where by something is brought Ito your awareness?'


      What term would you use?
      Discovery or rediscovery?
      Invention or reinvention?
      Creation or recreation?
      Enlightenment or re enlightenment?
      Realization?

      Then you should see the problem only exist because you try to encompass the understanding with a word.

      Words by their nature have contrary meaning.

      1. janesix profile image60
        janesixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        If there is a mathematical formula or concept, then does it HAVE to exist in reality? Take infinity for instance.

        1. mischeviousme profile image58
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The human brain is a storage device. It has it's own filing system and it transmits to the self, a preconditioned, impulsive response. It's the rationality of mathematics, that makes all this stuff real.

        2. kess profile image60
          kessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The reality of a person is constructed in his own mind...so therefore if it is a concept in your mind it exist in your reality.

          A mathematical expression for existence is ++ existence is infinite.

  2. paradigmsearch profile image84
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    And we need to get janesix closer to 100 followers! smile

  3. dudumodu profile image60
    dudumoduposted 5 years ago

    My candid opinion is that man has never and is not capable of inventing anything. Everything we claim to have invented was previously created by God. To posit otherwise is to praise the man who noticed that the darkest hour is nearest morning above He who arranged that it be so.

    1. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      So, men are just mindless puppets on a string?

  4. dudumodu profile image60
    dudumoduposted 5 years ago

    Far from it. Man occupies a much higher position than that in the estimation of God. Fact is, God has invited him to be a partaker in the eternal process of "creation". This is the reason why the Bible says " ye are little gods".However,this is all happening within a given frame, God's unltimate mastership. Now, by what we know of dialectics, man arrives at his great inventions by struggling with nature. This is the input he has to give in order to arrive at that great moment when heaven reckons that he has done enough either as individual or as a race and then rewards him with a revelation or any other form of previously unknown height of achievement like a world record..It is also the reason why the most pertinent definition of Good Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.It is a bit mystical,but as we say in Yorubaland " If you will only put your eyes in the proper angle, you will surely see your nose"

 
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