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  1. RWC149 profile image46
    RWC149posted 13 years ago

    I was watching Tony Dungy last night and he was giving praises too Vince Young. I loved every minute of it. Tony Dungy is right when he said "Winners, Win, and Vince Young is a winner always has been" He followed that up by Throwing out the name Tim Tebow, That is the all time winner and the oakland raiders better sign him today, because as Tony Dungy Said "Winners, Win" Tebow will cure the raider curse

    1. dohn121 profile image81
      dohn121posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It's going to take more than one QB to fix the Raiders, sorry to say.  Any team with meddling owners are going to have issues.  Please observe:

      Washington Redskins, Dallas Cowboys, Oakland Raiders.

      None of these teams will get anywhere unless the powers that be let the coaches coach and the GMs manage.

    2. drej2522 profile image68
      drej2522posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think Tebow should model himself after McNair...he must improve on his passing skills in order to pull it off in the NFL, though.

  2. EYEAM4ANARCHY profile image76
    EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 13 years ago

    Winners win in the pros, not college. Tebow has a lot more in common with the other QB in Sunday's game than he does with Vince Young.

    1. dohn121 profile image81
      dohn121posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree.  To add to that, Florida has a history of great college QBs who became awful Pro QBs.  Think Danny Kannell, Danny Wuerffel, and Rex Grossman.  Big-name college football players rarely become great Pro QBs.  Peyton is one of the few exceptions, but he didn't win a National Title.

      1. RWC149 profile image46
        RWC149posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        hey man those guys were under Steve Spurriers system. Not Urban Meyers, I believe Urban Meyer has a good track record of making good NFL QB's. Alex Smith isnt to bad. The point is when the NFL combine comes Tebow's prospect will fall, but I just want those GMs out there to remember that this guy doesnt lose football games. dont worry about how accurate he throws ithe ball on the run or any of that junk. Tim Tebow deserves to be the best NFL prospect and he will probably end up being a late 1st rounder becase of the combine. I'll leave you with this quote again from Tony Dungy "Winners, Win, it doesnt matter where there playing football at they just win."

        1. jobister profile image60
          jobisterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Vince Young has the #1 running back on this team as well. He also has Kenny Britt and somewhat of a defense that was dormant in their first 6 games. Vince Young is not winning the games on his own. He is a better game manager than Collins and he is not making mistakes that Collins made earlier in the season and I think that is the reason for their win streak.

          1. RWC149 profile image46
            RWC149posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yea possibly could be, but Young was winning prior to being benched two years ago. Hes only lost 3 or 4 games as a starting QB in the NFL. Check it out. Plus he only lost 3 or 4 games in 4 years at texas. Chris Johnson has been playing all year thats means he was in during there 0-6 start. you move VY in and now they are 5-6. Had Collins stayed in all season the titans would be 2-9 right now. Either way my Point is that Tim Tebow will have this same sucess in the pros as Vince Young because he has that Nack for Winning ball games. Everyone counted Doug Flutie out and said he was to small, once he got his shot he brought Buffalo back into the playoffs and helped make the chargers not stink so bad. Drew Brees turned Purdue into a big ten Power, The scouts in the NFL said he was small and was a system QB, couldnt handle the Pace of the Pros, what has he done, Win football games, and score points for the Chargers and now the Saints. those two teams were the doormat of nfl before he went there.

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            A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            USC had the number1 running back in college as well as the best quarterback in college the year before when Texas beat the Trojans. Those players on the Texas team FOLLOWED the lead of a winner! Tebow is not an NFL quarterback, he's barely a college quarterback!

            1. RWC149 profile image46
              RWC149posted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Wow I cant believe you have 148 fans, If you think Tebow is that bad ur Crazy. Hes the Greatest College Football Player ever. I agree that Vince Young is a winner I was comparing these two great players. It wasnt to long ago everyone wrote Young off. And he hadnt even taken a snap in over a year. once he got his 2nd chance he showed that he wins football games. Tim Tebow has the same characteristics, Hes a born Winner and he'll win in the pros too.

              1. rebekahELLE profile image86
                rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                that's just A Texan talking texas speak!! big_smile

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                A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Why are you concerned about how many fans anybody has? Tebow is NOT the greatest College Football Player ever, he hasn't won as many games as Colt McCoy has, in fact nobody has! Is he one of the 3 count em 3 players who have thrown for more than 300 and rushed for more than 150 in the same game? No, but Colt McCoy is! The interesting thing is I wouldn't bestow the Honor of Colt being the greatest college football player ever,  Vince Young could have been but didn't stay for his Senior year. VY left another National Championship and the Heisman on the table (which he should have won not Reggie Bush)to go pro! Tebow doesn't even come close to the likes of Archie Griffin,Earl Campbell,Tony Dorsett,Roger Staubach! I'm surprised you can even spell College Football with the knowledge you possess about it! Tim Tebow? Put the pipe down!

    2. RWC149 profile image46
      RWC149posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Wow. I was just coming from what one of the greatest coaches ever to coach had to say. I'll take his word over yours anyday. Vince Young while not the best looking QB is 9-0 in his last 9 starts in the NFL, not to mention he won a national championship at texas. Tim Tebow is very similiar, hes being vastly underrated, but the fact of the matter is he doesnt lose football games and mark my words he will carry that persona into a great NFL career. Tim Tebow isnt just a great football player, hes a leader, and I can see that guy in year one having everyone follow him into war on sunday. No matter where hes at. Oakland probably.

      1. EYEAM4ANARCHY profile image76
        EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Vince Young looks plenty good and Tebow looks nothing like him.

  3. wavegirl22 profile image40
    wavegirl22posted 13 years ago

    Talking about QB's . . is anyone out there watching Drew Brees and the Saints pounding all over Tom Once Upon a Time Brady and the Pats......

    I cant believe what the Saints are doing to the Pats. Gotta say I am loving every second of seeing Belichick not looking like a happy camper. .

    What I wouldnt give to be in the Pats locker room right about now!

    1. EYEAM4ANARCHY profile image76
      EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The Patriots look shell-shocked and the Saints are a second half team...

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    lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago

    I like the uniforms hmm:

  5. jobister profile image60
    jobisterposted 13 years ago

    I agree with you, but I think Tebow has the potential to be good, but it all depends on the system he is put in. He may not adapt to the Cleveland Browns or the St Louis Rams system and therefore he might be labelled overrated etc etc. Vince Young is fortunate to have Jeff Fisher as a coach and a team that surrounds him. I think the Titans were losing because their offense is not built to score 30-40 points each week and their defense could not stop anyone. They relied on their defense the past few seasons to bail them out when kerry collins still managed to throw 2-3 interceptions in a game. I looked at Chris Johnson's rushing yards per game and when the Titans were 0-6 this season Chris Johnson managed 2 games above 100 yards. Since the bye week Chris Johnson is averaging 160 yards per game. I hope Tebow has the same kind of support where ever he goes because without it he will be another Rex Grossman.

  6. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
    Paul Edmondsonposted 13 years ago

    Tebow is going to have trouble in the pros although, I agree that he may be the greatest college player of all time.

    His problem is his release is slow and he often delivers the ball late.  His plus is his leadership abilities.  It's going to be interesting to see where he goes in the draft.

    I keep thinking he should be a fullback or a linebacker...

  7. drej2522 profile image68
    drej2522posted 13 years ago

    Wow, big stuff..ehh, everybody knows the Big 12 doesn't play any Defense. Ha, kidding, not really! tongue

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      A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You know its not the defenses in the SEC, that are so good but rather the offenses are that bad! I could be kidding...but then again

  8. Pr0metheus profile image57
    Pr0metheusposted 13 years ago

    P. Rivers ftw....

  9. R.Edwards profile image63
    R.Edwardsposted 13 years ago

    There are too many assumptions about Tim Tebow when it comes to how people think he will fare in the NFL. Me personally, I think he will get hurt before he even makes any immidiate impact anyway or anywhere. He's so heavy on his feet and is a little too physical to play the QB position for a long period of time in the NFL. Once he steps out on an NFL field, especially playing with a team like Oakland, he's going to find out the hard way that naked bootlegs don't get you anywhere but the I.R. list. However, this is just my opinion, I compare 'Timmy' Tim Tebow to JeMarcus Russell when he came out of LSU. A big physical style QB with a rocket arm, what was his outcome? Riiiiighttt?

    My prediction, if Tebow (or basically when)gets acquired by a team his QB coach is going to have to teach that young man to slide and get out of bounds. Ultimately, Tebow will either grow to adapt or become frustrated because it's not his natural style and try to force things. He wears his emotions on his sleeve a bit much like Jay Cutler, this could prove harmful if he lands on a bad team that's rebuilding.

    1. wavegirl22 profile image40
      wavegirl22posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe they can call Joe Giradi in to teach him how to slide .. and maybe he just may be a better student then Sanchez was when he was lucky enough to get that lesson wink

  10. jobister profile image60
    jobisterposted 13 years ago

    Tebow will be used the same way Michael Vick is being utilized in Philly, Wildcat formation and do your best you can. Tebow plays like a fullback, throws like a halfback and shouldn't be a quarterback.

    1. EYEAM4ANARCHY profile image76
      EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You mean rarely and yet at the same time too often?

  11. Oldskool903 profile image61
    Oldskool903posted 13 years ago

    There are some QBs that are worth another look

  12. jobister profile image60
    jobisterposted 13 years ago

    Tim Tebow lost the SEC championship game..Colt McCoy will be the best QB to come out in the draft.


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