NFL Quarterbacks

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   wavegirl22posted 13 years ago

   Stafford, Sanchez, Brees, Kolb, Rodgers, Romo, Rivers, Orton, Culter, Grossman, Henne and Ryan are among the 14 QBs threw for more than 300 yards in the NFL in Week 1.
   Rookie Cam Newton is the first rookie to have the most passing yards in debut (^Peyton Manning)and in a game (^Matthew Stafford) when he put up 422 yards against the Cardinals last week in game 1 yet it wasnt enough as the Panthers lost the game.
   
   And Tom Terrific completed 32-of-48 passes for a franchise record 517 yards ( I hope he gets these perfect games out of his system now . .  so he can choke in the end)
   
   
   Is this good or bad for the game?

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      Disturbiaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Is what good or bad for the game?  You give some statistics about QBs, but what are you asking?  If passing the ball is good, is it better than a running game?  Cam Newton is just as you say, a rookie, so cut him some slack cause he didn't win game 1 and give him some time to mature as a professional player.  As for "Tom Terrific" he's pretty terrific in my playbook.

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         wavegirl22posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I think you missed the point Disturbia as I was not attacking Cam Newtown.
         
         I was thinking how much the the game itself has changed over the years, and those changes have been making it easier than ever to pass the ball and easier than ever for new quarterbacks to have an immediate impact on their team.
         
         Think about it. .this used to be a game where coaches wanted their defense to give up not just as few points as possible, but as few yards.
         
         
         
         And all I can say is thank goodness for . . .
         
         
         

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            Disturbiaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, the game has changed and keeps on changing, that's for sure.

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      Daffy Duckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It can be dangerous for the game.  Teams who have focused on the passing game numbers don't get to the Super Bowl and win.  Those teams with a solid running game to back it up have a better chance to win.
      
      This is why Dan Marino never got a Super Bowl victory.  The team was built around him and focused on his abilities too much.  He did great when he first came in and succedded in his stats, but he missed the biggest stat of all.
      
      This might happen to Cam Newton if the Panthers aren't careful.  he is doing really good in his rookie year, but every team needs more.
      
      I am happy for Cam so far.  With all of the controversy surrounding his last season in college this will help to put those things behind him.

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         wavegirl22posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Daffy Duck -
         
         I agree with you on all counts. With all the rule changes and the protection of the QB's it is inevitable. Agree that you need a run game. Gotta do it above and below. . move the chains and and gain every inch you can.
         
         The bottom line is flexibility, to be able to go after the area of the opposing defense that is most vulnerable.

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      Drew Breezzyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think it is good for football from a commercial standpoint. But for people who like to see quality defensive play like myself it is disappointing. Do you think the rules are to blame or do teams lack quality defenders?

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago

   I think it's good in the sense that fans get a little excitement from week 1 and can maybe put the lockout behind them.  It's too early to say whether we'll see more of this this year.

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   Hugh Williamsonposted 13 years ago

   The big numbers from Week #1 should be great for the game, particularly in showcasing new talent.
   
   The defenses aren't up to speed yet b/c it's early in the season & the lockout meant no formal practices. Also, QB's aren't banged up yet (Payton M. excepted) so thing's will get tougher for them as the season progresses.
   
   Good thread Wavegirl

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   It does help the nfl move on from the strike but does show defenses are coming along slow.

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago

   If Revis is an Island, what is Cromartie-an ATM?  He's easier to score with than Paris Hilton

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      wavegirl22posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      i thought he was the sperm bank ..

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   Malchiahposted 13 years ago

   Offensive scoring is up, no doubt, it's what the league (Goddell) wants and he's got it.  Loved Cam and the success that he had on Sunday, but it was just one game and it was Arizona, not exactly the Ravens, Jets or Packers that he was playing.  Let's see if we're talking about Cam by the bye week.  As for "Tom Terrific", I'm sick of it.  People act as if he's the perfect QB and for that matter, the ONLY QB in the NFL.  He doesn't like to get hit, he has NO movement and doesn't handle adversity well (not that he's faced a lot of it).  The lasting image of adversity for Brady was when Strahan and the Giants were tossing him around like a rag doll in the last Super Bowl they were in.  Give me Brees, Rodgers and Rivers any day of the week.  They've each earned where they were, handled adversity well and thrive because of it.  I'm from Boston, but I root for Brady and Belicheat to lose every week.  And I'm so glad that THIS is the year that the Jets win the AFC East and put the Pats in their rightful place.... IJS

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      wavegirl22posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      
      
      
      
      An instant replay of this in about 3 weeks would be a great start to the Jets road  Superbowl XLVI
      
      Malchiah --- You could be just about my most favorite Hubber ever!! Welcome to Hubpages . .may we meet here in the forums and on Hubs many times over . .You rock!!!

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   the jets winning the afc east it like saying the bengals will make the playoffs

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      wavegirl22posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      optimus grimlock-
      
      Sometimes I think you just come in on these threads just to get me in a tizzy and go off on you.
      
      Point is the Patriots are a team that is easy to dislike. And say what you want, yes we all will have to go through the season watching them be perfect. . to only see them deflate and prove that there is no such thing as perfect.
      
      And Tom aint so terrific when that happens.
      
      Nuf said

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         Daffy Duckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Actually I could listen to that all day. 
         Brady is a great quarterback, but he's also a whiner during the game.  Every time a defensive player touches him he looks to the officials for a flag.  What a spoiled little baby.  Someone please get him his binky.
         
         Now the Raiders, That's a real team! 
         
         
         

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   slappywalkerposted 13 years ago

   Nice thread.
   
   I wouldn't say the passing numbers are bad for the game. It's all just the way the game goes. I'm sure when the NFL and AFL merged there were people that were wary of the way the AFL focused more on passing than running. It seems to have worked out fine over the long run.
   
   The way the NFL's rules are set up right now, it is a pretty big advantage to have a great passing game. The quarterbacks are protected...receivers are protected...you get the picture. Coaches just have to adapt and find a way to stop it. That's what they get paid to do anyway, make game plans and adapt during the game.
   
   I think the huge numbers will calm down once the teams get a few games under their belts this year. The lockout did a job on some of these defenses, and the players' conditioning doesn't look too good right now.
   
   I'm not a Cam Newton fan myself, but I have been impressed so far. I hope that he does become one of the next great ones in the league because it only makes the game stronger. Sure his team is 0-2 but it would be silly to blame that all on him, the Panthers as a whole don't have a ton of weapons.
   
   As for Brady, I respect his skills but still root for him to get run over every weekend.

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      wavegirl22posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Now thats what I am talking about . ..
      
      By any chance did you see that Belkicheck piece on the NFL channel when Brady is talking to Belicheat and whinning like a spoiled little kid? Classic run me over Brady moment!
      
      <Tim is that you?>

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   its the truth. You guys are always overhyped and seldom live up to it. You guys have rex ryan who made your defence work well for the 1st time in years and you have revis,scott,keller,an old lt and holmes.  The jets are still missing pieces. The pats look good and actually the jets are easier to hate then the pats! I actually like your insight and your points are usally good, your just a jets fan.

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      wavegirl22posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ummm overhyped. .
      
      please do tell when that has happened. ..
      
      most people that have these overhyping issues with a New York Team is usually  . .well just envious that we have good teams.
      
      You think right now NY is touting the Giants?
      
      You think NY is overhyping the Knicks? or the Mets?
      
      C'mon get off of that overhyping bs already and come to the table with what the Jets are missing. Rex Ryan has brought back R E S P E CT to Gang Green and you betcha bottom dollar I am loving every minute of it.
      
      I will tell you one thing. . when a NY team has "heart" you are damn straight they are going to get all the hype and New York love.. .there aint better fans anywhere (except maybe in Indie)
      
      Thanks for appreciating my love of the game . . my dad would be proud to hear your words

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    optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

    The jets are overhyped not all of ny. The giants are a mess and have too many injuries. You need new linebackers to go along with scott and your saftys are a mess! You Holmes and after that some old men that are shadows of there former selves but the one thing you guys have is unity and that hides alot! Besides every team has there bad spots! Look at the bucs we have to make comebackes every week We may be good at dealing with adversity but thats not good to deal with every week!

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       I am DB Cooperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       They have holes like any other team, but there's a lot of talent on these Jets. It's hard to tell with the competition they've face in two games whether or not they're the real deal. From yesterday's game I don't know if their secondary is as good as advertised or if Luke McCown is just a terrible quarterback who often misses his target by 5 yards. It's probably a combination of the two. Gabbert was 5/6 for 52 yards when he came into the game.
       
       Since this topic was originally about quarterbacks, I'll say I think Mark Sanchez is still making rookie-type mistakes. He racked up some good yardage in week 1, but he also had a lot of passing attempts. The Jets only ran for 45 yards in that game. He had a pretty terrible day yesterday, throwing for 182 yards and 2 touchdowns, but also 2 interceptions that could have been costly had Luke McCown not overshadowed Sanchez with an even poorer performance (6 completed passes, 4 interceptions).
       
       Cam Newton had another 400+ yard passing game yesterday, and once again the Panthers lost. Tom Brady has 940 yards passing this season after just two games, and he goes up against a Bills defense next week than just gave up 35 points to the Raiders. He's not only on pace to break Dan Marino's single-season passing record, he's on pace to obliterate it.
       
       The rule changes, combined with evolving offensive schemes that seem to be outpacing defense trying to keep up have changed the game of football. There's less pressure on the quarterback and more time for the receivers to get open, which means huge passing numbers. Defenses are countering this by taking bigger risks, guessing routes and trying to cut them off for an interception. I expect we'll see more QBs with 400 yard passing days and 3 or more interceptions.

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          Timmy Hposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          The defenses will catch up. Injuries will slow offenses down as well. Brady is on pace to throw for over 7,000 yards. The passing game has taken over. Can anyone really say that the last three champions had great running games. Pittsburgh was okay, but had hell in short yardage situations. The Saints were okay. Green Bay couldn't run the ball and really didn't try. You can win without a running game in today's NFL, but not without a passing game of some sort.

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