Facebook revelation is Fakebook on display

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   jackclee lmposted 8 years ago

   The latest revelation by former Facebook employees should give all people pause when using Facebook. I am coining a new term calling it "Fakebook". Let's all let Facebook and Zuckerburg know how we feel. His company's denial of wrong doing is classic. When digging a hole, stop digging...
   He should issue an apology to his customers and to Conservatives everywhere. He is entitled to his opinion and his liberal views but don't hide behind the fake assertion of open and inclusive. What a hypocrite.

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      erorantesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hello mister jackciee Im. I want to know in details what the former employees of Facebook did that you are so upset. I like to log in in Facebbok and communicate with my friends and family. Sometimes Facebook works and sometimes it does not work. There are other ways to communicate. Good luck finding a new way. A new way can be Skyp.

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         jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         You are missing my point. I am not saying boycott Fakebook, just let them know their behavior is unexceptable. Regardless of your political leanings, one should not be deceived like this. This is what a totalitarian country like North Korea does.
         In case you missed the story, here is the link -
         http://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-work … 1775461006

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      Anna Marie Bowmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      While I understand, and share your frustration, it is widely known that Facebook, and CEO Mark Zuckerberg, is highly left-leaning.  This should come as no surprise to you that they would try to censor content to suit their agenda.  Since they are a business, and not a branch of the government, they can do as they please in regards to information the choose to promote. 
      
      The biased, agenda-driven actions of the federal government bother me a whole lot more than the actions of Facebook.

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         jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I'm sure you feel the same if a  conservative company did the same deception. You are correct about our government. The lies to pass the Iran nuclear deal tops my concern.

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   Kylyssaposted 8 years ago

   If you'd like to force facebook to promote material that goes against their deeply held beliefs then you should have no problem forcing a Conservative Evangelical Christian baker to make cakes for same sex weddings.
   
   Aren't businesses allowed to have any politics they like? Didn't Republicans fight to get corporations considered as people and thus free to practice their religious and political beliefs through their businesses and products? If you aren't against Hobby Lobby and Chick-Fil-A openly following their religious beliefs and supporting right wing politics, why are you against a different business doing the exact same thing and openly following their religious beliefs and supporting left wing politics? Why not just boycott facebook if you don't support their religious beliefs or politics just like liberals boycott businesses that lean far right and involve themselves in politics?
   
   I can't believe this is a surprise to anyone. I don't watch Fox News then get upset because the products of that Conservative business are Conservative in nature. Why use products owned by liberal business owners and then complain because they run their businesses by their firmly-held convictions? It's not like it's any secret the facebook business is pro human rights, pro social justice, and so on. It's been pretty obvious from the start.

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      jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You are missing the point. I have no problem with any business taking any position politically. What they did with Facebook trend is different. It is distorting the data to favor one group over another. Like I said, I expect that from Cuba and North Korea but not a Company so pervasive that it can swing public opinion. You have to wonder what else is going on at google and Apple and some other liberal leaning companies. Can we believe what our search engine is returning as web results? You know, I just returned from a trip to China and Google is blocked there.

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         jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Kylessa, your posting on this topic is revealing. How much of conservative ideas are you getting from these biased media groups? Perhaps your distorted view of conservatives are the very result of what you've been spoon fed. I can tell you as a conservative that we are often miss understood. I got tired of defending my position when the very word "conservative" creates such a negative connotation. Why don't you take some time and learn about what real conservatives stands for before making such stereotype statements.

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            Kylyssaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            So you have no problem with forcing Christian bakers to make cakes for same sex weddings, right? It's kind of the same thing, forcing facebook to promote (yes, promote in feeds, something with a monetary value, something they could sell) articles that go against their deeply held beliefs (in effect, donating something with monetary value to something that goes against their beliefs) as much as they promote articles that don't. A cake baker would only be making one cake for one wedding which wouldn't be promoting equal rights for LGBT to any more people than attend the wedding, but facebook would be required to promote the things against their beliefs to millions.
            
            Why would you force a business to give something of monetary value to causes they don't support? Don't conservatives already complain about the government doing that with tax money, forcing businesses to spend money on the poor, on green energy, and etc?
            
            Again, I wouldn't go to the Fox News website and whine that it's only promoting conservative websites. They don't promote any liberal articles and it would be strange to expect them to.
            
            The feed is the facebook feed, it isn't the government feed. It's really no different from the HubPages feed or any other business-owned website. Facebook is a business and they can do whatever they want on their property.
            
            What part of what I said is unrealistic and not matching what conservatives believe? You don't believe bakers should be allowed to turn down work from gay people? I believe I've read you arguing they should. Do you think Hobby Lobby shouldn't be allowed to interfere with their employees ability to purchase insurance coverage that includes birth control or do you believe it's their right to limit what insurance their employees can buy through the company plan? Do you believe Chick-fil-A should be allowed to have a strong anti-gay, anti-non-Christian stance in hiring, firing, and company policies? Do you believe corporations should be allowed to run their businesses according to their deeply held beliefs or not? You really can't have it both ways. Either corporations can have religious freedom or they can't.

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               jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I can see I touched a nerve here and it was not my intention. If you can't see the difference from what you state as examples and what Facebook is doing here with trend, I can't help you. By the way, it is not my objection but Facebook themselves denying that they are doing it. That should tell you something. If it is within their right and people like you agree with it, why should Facebook make an official denial?
               
               I can choose to not use Facebook and you can promote it all day long. We are not the problem. It is the 61% of millennials that claim to get their news from Facebook that I am concerned with. They are being misled and they don't even know it. When I was growing up in Taiwan, we were "brainwashed" to believe in certain ideas that the government dictated was suppose to be "good" for the masses. Is that what you want? What if another Administration or News organization started using the same tactics on the right? would you be so agreeable. I know I would be just as outraged.
               
               I guess we will just have to disagree on this. Thanks for the lively debate.

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                  Kylyssaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Why aren't you also worried by the people who get most of their news from Fox?
                  
                  If you don't get why a liberal business owner doesn't want to donate free advertising to conservative causes (most of which are anti-liberal causes), there's no point in discussing the issue with you. People don't promote things they are morally opposed to. Business owners get to promote whatever they want.
                  
                  Asking facebook to provide free advertising for more conservative material would be like asking Fox News to put more pro-choice and pro lgbt equality materials on their website.

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                     jackclee lmposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     kylyssa,
                     You got me thinking and I decided to respond by creating a hub, there was just too much to say. -
                     http://hubpages.com/politics/Some-Thing … ont-Add-Up
                     
                     Thanks for the inspiration.

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