If the Russians did really hack our system, is retaliation really the right way

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   gregasposted 20 months ago

   If the Russians did really hack our system, is retaliation really the right way to handle it?
   
   Personally, I believe that would be the wrong way to handle the problem. The retaliations would just go back and forth and escalate. We should figure out how they did it and fix it so it can't be done again. Cyber war can be very costly. Not as bad as nuclear war, but bad.

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   Ericdierkerposted 20 months ago

   There is a "system" that one can get an inkling about by just researching RIR ICANN RIPE Russia. IANA is also worth a look see. Really the most effective way to retaliate would be in this "system". And that is kind of iffy. Today in the world's internet community they try to work a bottom up approach to governance yet they leave out representation of individuals. It works kind of like the UN.And in fact the 2nd Committee of the UN deals with information and communication systems internationally.
   So just assume all these groups condemn the actions of Russia as a country regarding international hacking. Let us just call it, making international hacking "illegal" for lack of a better word.
   Well then what Obama proposes would be criminal action in retaliation for criminal action. Doesn't that kind of remind you of Mexican Cartels? Or maybe "crime families".If I recall correctly we have not used "gas" on people that kill thousands with gas.
   Like or hate Ted Cruz -- he is correct in this fight :  https://www.cnet.com/news/us-internet-c … s-numbers/ 
   
   Well Obama's administration through the Dept. of Commerce just months ago ceded control from US based to autonomous and controlled by an international community that could totally restrict free speech and allow bullies with votes like Russia to hack as much as they want to.
   Obama's administration paved the way for this inability to punish internationally -- starting back with Al Gore who invented the Internet ;-)

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   Russell Rigsbyposted 20 months ago

   Well if it's to be summarily characterized as "retaliation" then the clear and common sense answer would be no. Any recourse under United States policies should always be directed in terms that result in compliance that consistently reflects an administration's striving to remain above reproach.
   
   Since economic sanctions are ultimately effective with countries like Russia, simply turning up the dial and increasing those sanctions will soon produce the tone that forces Putin to turn direction. Most of his actions of late already demonstrate a relentless tantrum regarding the UN sanctions in place and which are producing an increasing economic impact on Russia.
   
   Turning off their ability to hack the U.S. is a far better initiative than attempting to invoke an eye-for-an-eye philosophical approach, which more often tends to escalate emotions toward actions that, in hindsight, are deemed regrettable and in some instances irreversible.

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   ptosisposted 20 months ago

   Russians didn't hack our system, that came from within.  They did use propaganda with fake new tho',
   
   http://www.snopes.com/former-british-am … dnc-leaker
   
   " the leakers were motivated by 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.'"

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