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Why does the HubPages staff allow for so much hatred?

  1. mattforte profile image91
    mattforteposted 4 years ago

    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/93880

    That thread has been around as long as I can remember. And every day a new thread pops up about one group hating on another. These aren't friendly debates, they are nasty, hateful people hating on other people's cultures and beliefs. It is harmful, and nothing ever gets done about it.

    This community is supposed to be a friendly, helpful community...but as long as that garbage is allowed to stick around then it will never fully accomplish that goal.

    I just don't get it - WHY?

    1. Hollie Thomas profile image61
      Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Although I agree that these forums can become a little toxic, there should always be room for dissent. Some threads are started by those who just want to argue for arguments sake, but sometimes, people just want to discuss an issue which is important to them and they want feedback.

      1. mattforte profile image91
        mattforteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        "Room for dissent" is one thing. Outright hatred is another.
        I avoid the forums because I can't stand seeing the hatred on the front page day after day.
        If they want to "interfere as little as possible" and let people say all that vile garbage to each other - then we should have the option to prevent it from showing up on the front page when we go to the forums. There is nothing pleasant about it. It's part of the reason I've almost completely stopped publishing here, and moved on to a competing website for my primary publishing. The atmosphere is far more friendly and inviting.

        1. Hollie Thomas profile image61
          Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          "Room for dissent" is one thing. Outright hatred is another.
          I avoid the forums because I can't stand seeing the hatred on the front page day after day.

          Sometimes very insecure people who are fully aware that their threads, not only have little value but will also be ignored by others, will resort to creating the most provocative of titles for their threads. It's the only way that they can *capture* the attention of those who are most likely to ignore them. And I have fell for that a couple of times, and received a couple of bans. If you want to get rid of rats or rodents, you shouldn't even contemplate feeding them *she says* the biggest sucker of them all.

          1. renegadetory profile image91
            renegadetoryposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I haven't spent a whole lot of time in the forums, but yeah, I have to agree.  It seems to me that there are people in here who post things just to stir up a hornet's nest.  They are not looking for answers, they are looking to argue.  I have better things to do with my time, so I just avoid those threads or questions altogether.  I wish others would do the same.

    2. paradigmsearch profile image88
      paradigmsearchposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I've gone on periodic rants about this. To no avail. I've given up.

  2. wilderness profile image96
    wildernessposted 4 years ago

    Dangit!  You've ruined it all!

    I swore never to visit that thread and now you suckered me into it.  The link is now longer bright blue. sad

    People hate the thought of censorship and I'm sure HP recognizes that.  Yes, they sometimes have to discipline the children to play nice, but on the whole they interfere as little as possible.

    What is most interesting to me is they will not allow attacks on other hubbers, but nasty attacks on HP are common and allowed to remain.  It says something about the people there.

    1. habee profile image90
      habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Good point about the censorship thing. I agree. I don't like the "hate" posts, but we're all adults here. I wish everyone on the site were able to act like adults and debate/discuss points without getting angry, but that's a pipe dream. lol

      When I want to get involved in a forum debate, I prefer interacting with sane, reasonable, honest people. We don't have to agree to remain civil and to remain internet pals.

      1. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Right.  Plus, your post shows something I run into far too often.

        Why in the world wouldn't we agree to remain civil and remain pals?  That took a minute to decipher as you obviously didn't mean what I read.

        It would help a lot if we weren't so quick to take offense; if we assume that no offense was meant and that we just aren't understanding.

        1. habee profile image90
          habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          lol. Insert "in order" before the second "to" in the last sentence.

  3. psycheskinner profile image81
    psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago

    I think thread that go from 'having an opinion' to having the opinion that X group of people a sinful/evil/should be persecuted... well, I think they should be locked out of respect for hubbers in those minorities who should be as welcome here as anyone else.

    1. mattforte profile image91
      mattforteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      That's exactly what I'm saying. The things that are permitted are, in my opinion, just as bad as if a member of the KKK were to come here spewing their beliefs, promoting slavery. There is absolutely no difference. It is disrespectful to anybody and everybody who doesn't follow those beliefs.

      And, it goes both ways - I know I pointed out a thread bashing athiesm (it was just on the front page), but there are plenty of athiests, and otherwise that bash back just as hard.

  4. secularist10 profile image89
    secularist10posted 4 years ago

    I don't even look at that particular forum. It just doesn't appeal to me, and never did, even though I am a big religion/atheism debate guy.

    The staff do censor some forum posts. They could probably do a little better, but you have to have free speech. Nobody can really define what constitutes "hateful" speech versus strong disagreement. It's in the eye of the beholder.

  5. rebekahELLE profile image90
    rebekahELLEposted 4 years ago

    I usually don't open those threads.  They're for the people who wish to comment on those kind of threads. 
    I find the HP community very tolerant, but there are all kinds of people here, so there are going to be controversial posts and hubbers who thrive on creating controversy.  I don't usually get involved, but once in a while, I'll call someone out.  I'm sure HP isn't crazy about some of the stuff that gets attached to its name, but that's their call.

  6. Barbara Kay profile image86
    Barbara Kayposted 4 years ago

    I wonder about the forums sometimes. At Infobarrel they share all of their secrets to getting good traffic, good ideas to write about etc. I don't care to write there, but I enjoy their forum and visit it once in awhile. Why aren't our forums here more like that? I think they were when I started writing here, but changed along the way.

    I've been learning to avoid the political and religious forums. The one you mentioned, I just passed by it and went onto looking at the next.

 
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