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  1. W. Christopher profile image74
    W. Christopherposted 6 years ago

    What are your thoughts? How can I improve it?

    Mesothelioma

  2. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Well, to start off, I would have to say it is a good subject, but the title is a bit much, as is the opening part??

    (a) the article is too short, add more content.
    (b) add a couple of more keywords/tags.
    (c) try not to put polls after your comment section.(if you receive a lot of comments, your poll could go unanswered, because people just posted a comment in your comment section)

    Just my thoughts on it. smile

    1. W. Christopher profile image74
      W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks, Cagsil!

      Did 2 out of 3... Will think about the add more content thing. It says that I have 384 words... Don't want it to get too wordy... and from what I've read, 300-500 words is best on HubPages. Is that right?

      Any more thoughts on it?

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Actually, more content is better. I am unsure where you read or heard about 300-500 words would be good content. It would actually be considered sub-standard for HubPages type articles, except for poetry, which gets a free pass on word count.

        The most accurate word count about 600+ or more than that.

        Some professional writers say that GOOGLE loves content so much, that 800-1600 words would be best. smile

        1. W. Christopher profile image74
          W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Oops... I remembered wrong... Paul Edmondson said 400-600...

          http://hubpages.com/hub/How_to_Write_for_Search_Engines

          I'll add some more, but how much... 12 more words to 400, or 212 to 600...

          Hmm...

        2. oscillationatend profile image60
          oscillationatendposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Exactly.

          The longer the article, the better. Actually, HP has a great guideline for qualifications that make a Hub money. I can't seem to recall where it would be, but a Hub with 2500 words+ and I think something on the order of ten (?) pictures or more, plus video.

          Don't forget great tags and your own non-default "summary" field.

          1. W. Christopher profile image74
            W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Wow. 2500+. That'd take me years! Haha. I did customize my summary.

            I added a little more content. I'm up to 432 words right now. I might go back later and add more.

            I don't want it to be a huge research project, just a "My feelings" type hub - I think.

          2. lrohner profile image85
            lrohnerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            There are lots of successful old-timers on here that swear by around 1000 or more words for a really successful hub. I know that I often struggle with the right hub length, but haven't personally needed more than that (yet) to get Google love. And I always wonder if people are actually going to read much more than that unless it's totally riveting.

            I'm pretty sure that Nelle Hoxie did some testing on this a while ago and don't quote me, but I think she netted out at 1000 to 1500 words as being the optimal length for her style of hubbing. And if it's good enough for her, it's good enough for me. smile

            1. W. Christopher profile image74
              W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I'm just wondering then, why does Paul say 400-600?

              Perhaps, the 400-600 word length is best for adsense? And, if you need to write more than that do a Page 2, 3, 4, 5?

              I guess that I have a lot to learn, experiment with, etc.

              1. lrohner profile image85
                lrohnerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Really good question, and I think it's because 400-600 is just kind of an online standard. I know that I was always told that 700 is really the max that an online article should be before you start breaking it into two articles.

                But there's been a lot of anecdotal evidence from hubbers on here that says more may be better. At the very least, it works for them. smile

                1. W. Christopher profile image74
                  W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Another number? 700? hehe...

                  I guess it would really just depend on how saturated your topic/keywords is/are already on the internet, and if you try to break through to the top of the search results.

                  Maybe there should be a guidebook published for Hubbers with specific guidelines for the "Types" of hubs they intend on publishing.?! smile

                  1. lrohner profile image85
                    lrohnerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    LOL! Guidebook? Wouldn't that be a novel? smile

              2. Marisa Wright profile image94
                Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I suspect Paul's article was written a long time ago.  Things change (including Google's algorithm), as you know. These days, HubPages want much longer Hubs.  Their Flagship program (where they make an upfront payment for a Hub), demands 1,500 words - - and their contests are judged on similar criteria.

                There have been experienced Hubbers in recent months who've played around with length and reported that longer Hubs do better.  There are also reports that three or four shorter Hubs (400 words) interlinked to each other, are just as good as one long one.

    2. oscillationatend profile image60
      oscillationatendposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I took a looksee and I can't add more than what Cagsil has to say.

      More media, more facts, what not have you.

      I like how you share your personal view and story, but perhaps it can be done better. While this is totally off topic, I really like how this hub was done by PeggyW:

      http://hubpages.com/hub/Old-Timey-Sweet … m-the-Past

  3. Origin profile image61
    Originposted 6 years ago

    Going after the big payout keyword? tongue

    1. W. Christopher profile image74
      W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Well, I've read that it is. But, I've yet to discover that. The ads really do annoy me on television and radio.

      1. oscillationatend profile image60
        oscillationatendposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        There's so many adds for that stuff, and so many adds for diseases and drugs in general.

        Maybe you can make this into an anti-pharma ad hub? smile

        1. W. Christopher profile image74
          W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That's an idea... Anti-Pharmacy Ad Hub... hmm...

  4. Dame Scribe profile image61
    Dame Scribeposted 6 years ago

    I would think the 400-600 as the minimal length is good but best if above that big_smile

    As for your article..I would think of it as misleading since it's not about mesothelioma at all tongue but personal rant against advertising. Very well done too, big_smile

    1. W. Christopher profile image74
      W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      misleading?

  5. Dame Scribe profile image61
    Dame Scribeposted 6 years ago

    Hi W. Christopher smile yes, misleading. I already said, it isn't about the disease at all..its a personal rant against the advertising of the illness. No offence intended. It's well written and presented. smile

    1. W. Christopher profile image74
      W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I don't believe it's misleading, because it is about it. Is it not? smile

      And thank you for the compliment, by the way! smile

      Oh, and I don't take any offense. I'm just absorbing criticism. smile

  6. Dame Scribe profile image61
    Dame Scribeposted 6 years ago

    I dont think there's really anything substantial in regards to the disease itself and maybe that's what is missing. Just give the 5 Ws and 1 H (why, what, etc), pro's n con's of a lawyer maybe big_smile just some thoughts.

    1. W. Christopher profile image74
      W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I appreciate your thoughts, Dame Scribe. I will look into it. I don't really know if that's the angle I was going for, and really if there was really an angle. I do think you hit the nail on the head when you said "rant" earlier. smile

      But, as I said, I'll look into it.

      Who - lawyers?
      What - mesothelioma?
      When - all too often?
      Where - on television and radio?
      Why - yup, why?
      How - via annoying advertisements?

      smile I don't know that I should look into it with more detail... hehe. smile

  7. sunforged profile image65
    sunforgedposted 6 years ago

    W/o reading the whole thing, I just  want to point out you have a snowballs chance of ever having that hub seen (mesothelioma!)

    Id say - 200 views this year - 98% Hubpages based


    on the content length thing - w/ the feeds hes using its a decent length.

    5 300 word articles is just as if not more likely to gain the same amount of traffic as one 1500 word article - there is no magic length

    you seem to have figured out the high paying keyword aspect - but competition is far more important metric to understand

    1. W. Christopher profile image74
      W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Why not read the whole thing? smile

      I know, it's pretty saturated, but I wanted to put my opinion on it out there. smile

      Um, I'll cross my fingers?!? smile

      I know a little about a little, if that makes a little sense. smile

      More importantly, thanks for taking the time to comment on here! smile

      1. sunforged profile image65
        sunforgedposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        sorry - didnt read completely because the topic bores me - and Im not overly supportive of medical term profiteering - I rather have the most authoritative sources taking the high results.

        I did look close enough to notice your layout and format which I did comment on

        1. W. Christopher profile image74
          W. Christopherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Understand.
          Really, it isn't about the profits with this one. The tv/radio ads really, really, really annoy me!! It just so happens that I happened upon it being a potentially high-paying keyword.

          And thanks for /siding/ with me (i think) on the length of the hub. smile

 
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