Promote hubs in Feed

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   WoodsmensPostposted 13 years ago

   I didn't think this was allowed and it is rather annoying spamming a link to one article every couple hours.

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      Maddie Ruudposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not sure what you mean.  Can you give an example?

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   Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

   Do you mean sharing via the HubPages internal feed? (As opposed to RSS feeds).

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      WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I guess we can share links to our hubs this way I have seen it now for the last couple days from sunforged with some qoute hub interesting way to generate traffic

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         Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Seems that pushing "Share" inside the feed will automatically share a hub with followers.

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            WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yes or you can say what's on your mind and link a hub that's already published.But I didn't think it was standard practice to do this

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               Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I imagine that if you stop following the person who posted these links, they would stop appearing in your feed.

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                  WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Okies thanks

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   paradigmsearchposted 13 years ago

   Anybody have any comments on Google Feedburner? Like what the heck is it for and is it any good as relates to HP?

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This is such a cognitive disturbance for me
      
      You see, long before RSS feeds started being used for spammy SEO, people like me used them for following bloggers and websites that we were interested in.  We argued about the best RSS feed readers to use and spend countless hours trying to explain to other people that these were like "live bookmarks".   I think Mozilla Firebird (that's what it was called then) was the first to offer RSS feed reading directly in the browser.
      
      Feedburner was a company that offered add-on RSS feed services.  Early on, most of us created our own RSS feeds, but Feedburner offered so much more flexibility that by 2006, many of us switched our feed management to them.
      
      Sometime later, Google bought them.  There were plenty of hiccups during that takeover.
      
      Now, to answer your direct question:  if you are only Hubbing, you don't need or care about Feedburner.  If all you use is a CMS like Wordpress, you may not care much either as plugins will handle all that for you.
      
      However, if you maintain your own website(s), submitting your feeds to Feedburner makes a lot of sense. It gives you centralized management, automatic format conversions, the ability to add advertising, and much, much more.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   Promoting hubs in a feed is not spam.
   
   Promoting hubs in a feeder for other Internet sites is also not Spam.
   
   I use a twitterfeed.com automated sender for hubs to be tweeted on twitter. I generate traffic from this being done. It is not SPAM either.
   
   If you are following someone who is using it, why is it a concern in the first place. You can pick and choose what links you want to follow or read.
   
   Twitter is an on-going scrolling screen, which you can check at any time you choose.
   
   You can RSS feeds to your hubs and exclusively use it for your hubs alone or share with other people. Your choice.

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      WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Cagsil you have become really bitter in your answers lately but it  has nothing to do with Twitter
      the example is in the hubpages feed for example if the share is a link with http:// and a quote promoting a hub about qoutes I have seen it more than once from sunforged I am just asking if we can do that what the heck free advertising we all might as well jam the hub feed promoting our hubs

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         Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         There is no bitterness in my answer. Just you reading into it.
         Everyone does feed the HubPages feed with their hubs. I have plenty of hubs that generate RSS feed. That's what it is for, is to promote your stuff and that of other people.
         
         You can use the feed for multiple reasons and ways. You can use it to advertise your own hubs or a group of related hubs by keyword. You can submit your RSS feeds to other places to promote your work.

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            WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry Cagsil your missing it . If you go to the feed tab at the top open it and paste a link to an already published hub this is allowed to share
            multiple times the same http:// of a already published hub not the rss feed or Twitter the feed tab Or don't you ever use it

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               Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               The FEED feature that gives you all the activity on HubPages is something I don't use. I don't pay attention to "all" the activity going on on HubPages.
               
               I receive emails newletter of those who I follow who publish new hubs every morning. I use the "forum" frontpage thread to see what forums are active, because the "FEED" doesn't cover all of the forum threads.
               
               But, now I understand what you are talking about.

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                  WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Ok I just didn't think it was good practice to share in this way it seems like self promotion with links to an already published hub . Lol Cagsil don't read my twitter I use Twaitter for all my hubs :p

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               Maddie Ruudposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I would recommend unfollowing the user guilty of this practice, as Website Examiner suggested, and also sending his/her username to me via email so that we can investigate the behavior and take appropriate action.

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                  WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Ok Thanks Sent because the behavior continues and should know better than to practice promoting via the HUBFEED Status Tab Nothing against the hubber but if everyone did it, it would only clog the feed with self linking.
                  Am I wrong?

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   I use the Hubfeed in such a manner - when I update previously published hubs with new info, as there is no other function that would perform that notification, I also sometimes use it as a "status" update. An actual "follower" may be interested in such changes.
   
   There has been no pre-existing commentary or information about what the hub feed can be used for. So no one can be "guilty" of anything regarding its use.
   
   Feeds are real time, in most cases , followers, fans, friends on a feed will only see the feed occasionally.
   
   As suggested, if you are annoyed, merely unfollow as you must not be that much interested in my activities to be annoyed by a quote or status that you happen to see more than once.
   
   I would wonder why you chose to follow me in the first place if such an activity is a surprise to you. In the 6 weeks you have been on the site, I have written primarily about marketing and promotion. If even 10% of the 1k followers to this account cared to see when I created new hubs or made changes to an existing hub that I wanted to create some sort of an "alert" for - then it is highly unlikely that the original automated addition to the feed would be seen by more than a handful of them.
   
   I also use the feed to communicate with actual friends and followers, in the case of the quote hub, a few of us were discussing the "quote hub" phenom and layouts etc. to the intended audience those updates were relevant.
   
   Here this may Help:
   
   Unfollow Sunforged

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      Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That's something I have never seen anybody do before!

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   Pcunixposted 13 years ago

   If I am following someone, I WANT to be notified of updates.
   
   Those of us who follow because we actually might want to read things the people we follow write might agree. 
   
   But I guess some people follow but don't follow..

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      WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I never understood this. Only about 5% of my followers actually seem to be interested in my writing.
      
      I found it rather amusing - the other day I got some fan mail I thought was aimed at me... I got the same fan mail on two other accounts (which have no obvious relation to each other, completely different names & topics).
      
      So people are even copying and pasting fan mail!

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         wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I think most followers don't want to read - they want you to follow them in return.  Like you I find it amusing that every time my hubber score gets to 99 or that magical dollar, especially if I make a few forum posts, I will get a few new followers.  Checking their recent activity I find that they have just followed 10 or 20 others as well, all high hubber scores.
         
         I realize that most of my output is not interesting to fellow hubbers (who wants to read sales hubs or how to hubs on how to do something they are not going to do?) and don't expect much in the way of followers.  Nevertheless I seem to attract at least a few, as noted.    There are, of course a few that actually seem to read my stuff - fellow DIY enthusiasts or someone that has found one of the few hubs more interesting to most hubbers, but they are the exception rather than the rule.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   Seems like an appropriate response to being called an annoying Spammer by a follower who has chosen to opt in to "following me"
   
   I checked my status feed history the hub in question was shared 4 times in 72 hours - each time with a quote I find interesting and a link back to the source hub. The hub grew in response to feedback I received and was updated and shared during the process.
   
   In the last 9 days (one screen) I have used the status update option about 15 times of which 11 times a link was used leading to 5 different hubs.
   
   If anyone finds that to be annoying - the opt-out is above

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   Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

   Thanks Sunforged, I find this information very educational. Good that you found this thread to add your thoughts.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   I get a google alert for all uses of my "user name" - usually this lets me know when someone asks a specific question in the forum and references me for help.
   
   I think this is the first time, I got an email that alerted me to how annoying I am.

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      Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I usually get referenced as "WE" - I don't think Google Alerts would be of much use to me.

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      WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I would hardly call a few posts spam - the whole point of following someone "should" be because you want to read what they write.
      
      Sadly few people seem to actually follow for that reason.
      
      I think the 'social' hubbers are the ones who get their hair in a knot about stuff like this as opposed to the 'writing' and 'making money' ones.
      
      I'd certainly encourage anyone who has no interest in my work to unfollow me.

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         Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Duly noted.

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      Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      I appreciate your updates in the feed sunforged and I'm sure many others who follow you do too!

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      shazwellynposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Wow... How do you get a google alert everytime your name is mentioned?

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    rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

    also remember, if you hover to the far right of a post inside the feed, an X appears. you can
    
    hide stories from that specific author
    hide stories from that category
    hide this story
    
    you don't have to quit following someone.

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       Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Choosing this particular option equals unfollow. You will be prompted for confirmation about whether you want to stop following that person.

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          rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I guess I've never done it with someone I follow. if you get hubs on your feed from different categories and don't follow the person, it simply says are you have chosen to hide stories from .....
          
          would that be true even if someone wanted to hide a specific hub from continuing to appear on the feed?

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             Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Makes sense...
             
             No, if you only want to hide a particular hub, this does not require to unfollow. If you choose to hide all stories from a person you follow, you will be asked to confirm that you want to stop following them.

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    WoodsmensPostposted 13 years ago

    Alot of responses but nobody answered the question is it allowed to promote a link to a already published hub in the status feed as long as you only do it 4 times in 72 hours
    
    "- each time with a quote I find interesting and a link back to the source hub. The hub grew in response to feedback I received and was updated and shared during the process."
    
    ☼-obviously from this response feedback grows with this linking
    
    ☼-a lot of opinions on the status update which in turn click on the link
    
    "I have written primarily about marketing and promotion"
    
    "I use the Hubfeed in such a manner - when I update previously published hubs with new info,"
    
    ☼-So it seems linking to a hub or old hubs that get a splash of life as an update can be promoted to followers with a hot link in the status feed. Just checking
    
    Being notified by updates is one thing but hot link I think is another.I guess I'm the only one not using this practice of promotion'
    
    *****Sorry for the confusion and no harm intended *****
    
    "Yes I guess we can share links to our hubs this way I have seen it now for the last couple days from sunforged with some qoute hub interesting way to generate traffic"

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       pauldeedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, it is allowed.  Status updates only go to followers, so if a person's activity becomes annoying you can either stop following them or hide them in your feed.
       
       The HubPages Feed, Twitter, and Facebook are essentially unspammable because followers can so easily stop following you.  That makes them very different than something like a forums, comments, or a social bookmarking sites (which can be and are spammed on a regular basis).

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    Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

    Just visit Google alerts, insert the text you want to be alerted about, provide an email address, specify how often, and you're done!

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       But don't try it if your name is Bill Smith.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    I occasionally post a link to one of my hubs in the feed, no one has complained yet. I suspect not many read the feed religiously

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    Jane@CMposted 13 years ago

    I've never read the feeds, I log in & go directly to my account.  I don't read updates either.

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       triosolposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Even I never read the feeds, Directly login from my Hub Account.

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          Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          You can follow the feed in a separate tab while logged in. It is a great way to keep up-to-date with dicussions, hubs etc. You can also use the feed to post comments.

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