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   Jefacityposted 13 years ago

   Tell me what you believe is absolutely true and undeniable. Here are some to contemplate
   
   That we exist
   We are all interconnected
   Life is impermeant - things change from one form to another
   We all suffer and seek to end this suffering
   By freeing our hearts, body, mind we can overcome suffering
   That we both create our lives and have our lives created for us
   That we seek to love and be loved

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      Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      True and Truth are not the same thing.
      
      Are you positive? How do you know you're not just an image of someone else's imagination?
      
      This one I would agree is an actual truth. We(human species) are interconnected on a physical level and possibly a mental level as well(this is unrealized potential of humankind).
      Yes, change is inevitable. Therefore, truth.
      Untrue. Not all suffer and seek to end this suffering. Suffering is a individual point of view.
      If you were suffering, freeing your mind "might" allow you to overcome, but doesn't always.
      We don't create our lives, we create our future. Yes, we were created by our parents.
      I seek no such thing on either aspect. I already love myself, therefore, I have no search(seek) to be done. To be loved? Naw, no a requirement for me.

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         Jefacityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I said we exist. that is an absolutely true. I'm not going to spend time arguing whether we are projections of dreams or plato's allegory of the cave because it cannot be proven one way or another.
         
         You're right about the seeking part. Not all seek to end suffering. But most people if given the choice to end suffering would do it in a heartbeat. you have a good point about not seeking it. its better rephrased as everyone wants to end suffering and be loved.
         
         Pretty much everyone enjoys laughter and the smile of others around them. I can't speak absolutely on this, but it does seem to represent an intrinsic part of humanity.

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            Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I wasn't trying to start an argument. I know we exist. I just wanted to see your response to my statement.
            Every person has already been given the choice to end their own suffering, yet they continue to suffer. Again, it's another question I would have to ask you, if you know why? As for the part about being loved, I already stated that I do not require anyone to love me. Can you explain that, with regards to your statement?
            Most people enjoy laughter and anyone who says that they do not, is an out-right liar. If a person always had people around them smiling, then I don't think they would actually be happy, especially if something horrible happened, yet the people around them were smiling. Just saying, not insinuating anything by it. It's just a thought to ponder.

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   just_curiousposted 13 years ago

   I don't actually know anything I'd label as truth, but I definitely like yours.

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      Jefacityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      well there's also the other way which states "no belief is true". that does have validity to it as well.

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         just_curiousposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I don't know. I would think somebody has to be right, there's just no way of knowing for sure.

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            Jefacityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            We're all right and wrong in different ways. what do you believe?

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               just_curiousposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Ahh. We're talking belief now. Cool. That's always fun. I believe you're right. Everything is connected somehow. Not sure how. I haven't figured that part out yet. But  a part of all of us does move on into a different form after this life. I think your statements about everyone wanting an end to suffering and having a need for love must be true.

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                  Jefacityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  We're connected in many ways. Like us for instance are connecting as words over the internet. Little thought clouds colliding and creating a new one.
                  
                  Something interesting happened to me that relates. We were over at my Grandmas house looking over old picture. There's this picture of my Dad and my Aunt when they were younger, I look very similar to my Dad and my cousin looks very similar to her mom, my aunt.
                  
                  It sometimes seems as if we're just reincarnations of all that came before us recombined into a new form.
                  
                  Love > truth

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