Raise the Debt Ceiling

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   Jed Fisherposted 12 years ago

   The cause of the slowdown in the global economy is a contraction of the money supply. To create more money, the Federal Government has to print bonds and trade them for dollars printed by the Federal Reserve. The Government has been remiss in this duty for far too long. This has allowed global monopolies to strangle the economy by reducing production and raising prices. This further reduces the amount of money in circulation, futher reducing the money supply. The government has an obligation now to hand out a whole crapload of money to the poorest people to re-ignite economic activity. But those who are sitting on a big pile of cash, they don't want that to happen. They like the idea of cash as an appreciating asset, something that becomes more valuable over time. Sure, most people won't understand it until they are mowing Mr. Bigg's grass while their wife is up in Mr. Bigg's mansion scrubbing the bathroom, and their son is waxing Mr. Bigg's limo, and their daughter is giving Mr. Bigg a "sensual" massage. Then it will all make sense...

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      Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Very true. The debt ceiling will be raised. The GOP hypocrites who are threatening not to vote to increase the debt ceiling now nearly all voted multiple times to increase it during the Bush administration (which is responsible for our current situation).

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         Doug Hughesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         "It is important to emphasize that changing the debt limit does not alter or increase the obligations we have as a nation; it simply permits the Treasury to fund those obligations Congress has already established.
         
         In fact, even if Congress were immediately to adopt the deep cuts in discretionary spending of the magnitude suggested by some Members of Congress, such as reverting to Fiscal Year 2008 spending levels, the need to increase the debt limit would be delayed by no more than two weeks. The limit would still need to be raised to make it possible for the government to avoid default and to meet the other obligations established by Congress."
         
         Timothy Geithner

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            Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks, Doug. We're on the same wave length.

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               S Leretsehposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Geithner comment is completely irrelevant to the issue.
               
               Everyone  - of common sense - knows the objective of republicans is to use the debt ceiling as leverage to cut FUTURE outlays  -i.e. cut the unsustainable spending of the DEMS cradle to grave socialist nonsense

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                  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  SO they can give it to their wealthy friends as tax cuts!
                  
                  Wefare for the rich! Trickle-Up welfare!
                  
                  Voodo Economics.
                  Done by blood-sucking, Koch-sucking Vampires.
                  
                  ANYTHING the right suggests......Do the Opposite!

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      S Leretsehposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "To create more money, the Federal Government has to print bonds and trade them for dollars printed by the Federal Reserve. "
      
      Demonstrates a lack a fundamental understanding of macro economics.

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      sarahsexpotposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Where do you get your facts? Does this look like a shrinking money supply to you?
      
      

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         So, if we have so much money, why the need to cut medicare, planned parenthood, raise taxes on women seeking abortions, cut headstart, cut LIHEAP...why the need to cut if we're swimming in dough?
         
         What recession then?
         
         The problem is, the money is HOARDED at the top.
         
         That graph could apply to the incomes of the top 2% of Americans too....
         While a graph of the middle and lower classes would show the income going down!
         
         Gvt policies did it.
         Gvt policies can reverse it.

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         Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The Federal Reserve has been increasing the money supply and keeping interest rates low in an effort to pull the country out of the deepest recession since the 1930s. Thanks to the Republicans the stimulus package was too small to do the job.

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            DannyMaioposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Now I heard it all! the stimulus was too small????? You are kidding...right? If you truly believe this I want to sell you some Air! That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard anyone ever say! you have got to be joking! Give some facts for once in your life Ralph! real facts not BS talking points or scaring people with LIES! I seen on another thread someone posted facts to you and you clammed up like a little girl! They asked you for facts and you gave more nonsense talking points. Your messiah said in 2006 that if the debt ceiling has to be raised it means the administration is a failure! So does that mean he is a failure? You guys are screaming the repubs are trying to take away SS for the elderly and you know it isn't true! anyone 55 or older will not lose a thing! stop the lies! read factual data not NPR or huffington post nonsense!

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               lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               "55 or older will not lose a thing! stop the lies! read factual data not NPR or huffington post nonsense!"
               
               And what about those under 55?
               
               Privitized--where the bank gets a cut of everything. Same old same old. If you have money--you're ok. If not---eh, just suffer.
               
               You people are wanting to go backwards in time.
               The Gilded Age was Tungsten covered bars pretending to be Gold....
               
               And it's coming undone.
               
               There's no "There" There. The whole thing is a Ponzi scheme designed to enrich the very few.
               
               Guess what? Top-heavy things fall over eventually. We have hit the breaking point.
               
               Fall it must.

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         Jed Fisherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         On that money supply graph, that M1 all the way at the bottom is the money supply for all us little peasants. Notice it has gone down a bit. The rest is imaginary, magical money created when banksters make handshake deals written on paper napkins. Derivatives and Swaps, technically. e.g. Jamie Diamon says to Lloyd Blankfine, he says, "I bet you a zillion dollars Brazil wins the World Cup in 2040." They just created an economic instrument worth a zillion dollars, and can trade it on the international derivatives markets, thereby increasing their money supply. But not yours...
         As for that stimulus, it came after the TARP. TARP, that is where congress borrowed 750 billion and handed it to the banksters. The banksters stuck it in thier pockets; In 2008, the Banksters collected 108 billion in executive bonuses, and regular compensation for all the banksters and thier bank  employess ate up the rest. TARP saved banks that were insolvent and sould have been taken over by the FDIC and liqudated. That would have been a lot cheaper, and better for 98% of Americans. And gas would be a buck, without those A-holes bidding up oil prices.

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            Moderndayslaveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            TARP was Free Market Capitalism at it's best ,,,,

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   Evan G Rogersposted 12 years ago

   ROFL.
   
   Yeah, sure buddy.

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      Jed Fisherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Time for a cool, tall glass of dihydrogen monoxide. And how's that Corporate Hell working for Japan? The place is just bursting with innovation, growth and opportunity, I'm sure.

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