Waking up and still dreaming...

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   mischeviousmeposted 12 years ago

   What is awareness and how does it differ from dreaming? I have dreams and my mind has a reality to decipher of them. Is reality realy so different from a dream?

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I understand that studies have been done about dreaming.  Apparently we are only aware of dreams if we wake up at a certain time, very closely, and immediately after the dream has occurred.
      
      I.e., we are not aware of the dream whilst it is actually occurring.
      
      In my view, Awareness is consciousness.  We have our basic 5 senses, sight, hearing, feeling, tasting and smelling.  With these faculties we receive messages from the world around us, send the messages to the brain and decipher all the messages.  Then we make a judgement of what those messages have told us. 
      
      Once that judgement has been made, we decide upon a reaction (within the brain, or via the reflexes in the spinal chord) and send our own message back to the muscles for an appropriate action.
      
      By variable degrees, the judgements and resulting actions are either totally voluntary at one extreme, or totally in-voluntary at the other extreme.
      
      Within the Dream context, it would seem that all our reactions to a dream are totally involuntary since we are not "awake" at the time of the dreaming.  We might sleep walk, or jump, or twist, or shout.  We are not aware of doing so at the time.
      
      Once we have woken up, i.e., after the dream has passed, then we are truly aware, conscious.

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         mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Where does said consciousness originate?
         
         My answer; the center of one's self.

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            logic,commonsenseposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            But does it?  Could it be even deeper than that?

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Back to the "Is-ness" of Being.
            
            Consciousness, being infinite, has no center which is measurable. You and I are the manifestations of that infinity.
            
            There comes a point in our effort to understand when we just need to accept that it IS.  Leave it there and get on with living.
            
            In my humble opinion.

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               jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Dawn is up, here on the hill, must get out and greet the day.  See yous later folks.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   Think reality will kill me where a dream should not.

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      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That's what they call hard reality, soft reality is the reality that brain percieves, outside of life and death.

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   Shanna11posted 12 years ago

   I wake up still dreaming all the time- especially when I'm stressed. Last night I was up for two hours, wandering around my room, seeing everything visually but mentally convinced I was at work still. I knew what I was doing though-- I just couldn't stop it.

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      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That's the mind telling you what is wrong with your life and how your world is affecting it's well being. Just a guess....

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         Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Eh, I don't think so necessarily. I like my job-- I just don't handle stress and adrenaline well when I'm awake, so it comes out during the night.

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            mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Whatever stresses you are having are your's. Own your brain and mind, then said stresses will only be what you imagine them to be.

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         Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You both are describing what in Native American lore is called the Medicine Dream. It is (was) called other things in other cultures. In effect, it is walking upon the division between the negative and positive inner being. Both are you, and by standing exactly where you are standing within, you are beginning to perceive the full "You". The division line is the twilight zone which exists in all of us, between the darker self and the lighter self. It is part of the awakening which is now occurring. It is evidence that the Holy Spirit is walking among us as flesh. It is not Jesus, for he is the one who told us to expect another, and, what would happen when this other appeared. Me? I'm just a messenger...concentrate on the message.

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            Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            My 'message' is telling me that I'm in my pajama pants at work, and that I don't know where the spoons go when I'm done washing them.

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               Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Focus.

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                  Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Focusing.... focusing.... AH! Got it! Spoons go in the second drawer down on the left hand side of the oven.

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               mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I don't have a message, only my own perceptions. Whether or not my views are preconcieved remains to be seen, even by me.

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                  Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Are they your own perceptions...I certainly don't see anything  "new" in what you say. To think that your perceptions are your exclusive property is just ego talking. If: God is the author of all things, good or evil, and the only truly evil thing which exists are the thoughts and deeds of man, then God is the author of your thoughts...and you own nothing.

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                     mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     The things I think I know, the feelings I think I feel and the experiences I think I have are but manifestations of my perception. If my mind comes from God, then I and the father are one.

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   couturepopcafeposted 12 years ago

   Sometimes, not often, I can know, in my dream, that I need to wake myself up because of the perceived danger of which I'm dreaming. I know in my dream that, if I close my eyes, I'll wake up.

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      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      We are most aware when we are in the depths of emotion, if even we are only aware of ourselve's.

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         Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Jesus said: You are all gods. You are in the universe and the universe is in you. The light of God shines from out of your eyes. The universe part I threw in, he said the same thing but with different wordage. Jesus had a Medicine Dream, in the wilderness after the Jordan River and his cousin John the Baptist.

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            Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Nothing supernatural about any of this...it is part of the human experience. Preparation for what's coming next.

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               mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               And the next moment will continue to come to me, whether I am prepared or not.

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                  Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  You become a messenger... It is nice to know that total destruction is not eminent. Death is a material thing...you leave it behind...it, therefore loses it's meaning. No pain, no tears....but, this wouldn't have been done if that was the whole story. We are more than we seem. and consciousness can't be ruled out at any level. The next evolution...a Quantum Leap is on the horizon....it is about knowing your self completely. Hardest thing is to stop lying to yourself...and we do it a lot. Logic is needed, but so is emotion....we need control of our being. Then dreams become dreams again, and a deeper reality is realized. That is why I called my avatar Druid Dude. I have found the Holy Grail.

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                     Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Some kind of Druid Dude, lifting the veil, some call it magic to search for the Grail....John Lennon "Mind Games"

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                        jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        "Repetitive patterns. That was the first step. Understanding is about to take a Quantum Leap. Noetics is the key. Knowledge will increase, and the illusion we hold as reality will unfold and reveal a reality that is undeniable. Everyone is in for a big surprise. Can't reveal that part. I hate to ruin a surprise."
                        
                        This is a quote from one of your Hubs, Dude.  Do you see it as applicable to this present discussion?

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                     mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Anyone that can look in and have an idea of what they are looking at, has found an aspect of God.

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            couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Dude - I know this is true but I need to know chapter and verse where Jesus said this. It's important. Will you find it for me?

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   CHyNCHyNposted 12 years ago

   It is only how we perceive.

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      Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      perceptions can lie. couturepop, get a red letter addition which highlights what Jesus said. The "you are all gods" is in John.

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