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   Eric Newlandposted 12 years ago

   The more certainly we can know something, and the more easily we can prove it, the less important it is.

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      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Meh... I'd say the more one understands the less time they have to spend figuring it out. If it can't be logically explained, as it is in a classroom, then it could take forever. However, if one is smart, things that can't be logically explained become fairy tales.

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      prettydarkhorseposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      those things are less controversial, perhaps less exciting and there are no challenges in proving them. We like to talk about things which are debatable in which our minds are like being masturbated, something like that. Ego

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Nothing you know or can prove is less important than anything else in which you learn. It's all equally valuable.

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         prettydarkhorseposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I am glad you are back Cags, I miss you here!

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         jennzieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with Cagsil. Knowing that 2 +2=4 is information that is just as valuable to know as knowing the number of atoms in a drop of water (though I can't say that I know that answer myself ).

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      When one is totally unaware of a particular thing he is at rest...
      This unawareness is called death or sleep.
      
      When one is totally aware of a thing he again is at rest. This rest is called faith.
      
      Agitation comes when one is partially aware of a thing...this agitation is called fear.

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         oceansnsunsetsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Agitation and fear can make people lash out, when they don't face the fear or thing causing the agitation head on.   Not facing fears of the unknown, or not wanting the unknown to be true (as in denial of a cancer, say..), does not help alleviate the agitation or fear.  A lot involves personal choice, and being able to accept reality no matter what it may mean or how much we want it to be true or not.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I would have to evaluate that as nonsense.

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      jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The more certain we can know something ? This is the NTK Syndication at work. Why? Briefly: all necessary knowledge is genetically programmed into the human brain. It is the output of those strands of information that cause one to even consider excess or lack of -and continues to keep an individual a slave to that processor of information.
      
      The more we can prove something ... less important it becomes?
      Perhaps what is being explained is the thread of information goes dormant, is dissolved back into the place it came, since it cannot produce further remark or add further units of information to it.
      
      James

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      oceansnsunsetsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I think I would have to know what you meant by "less important", and in what sense.  (Which sounds hard to define.)  Also, when you say something, does that mean all things are included in that?  Very open ended, and a little vague, at least for me.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No. Utterly wrong.

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   Emile Rposted 12 years ago

   I don't know. I know I need air to breath.

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      Eric Newlandposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      True, but is the knowledge of that crucial? Save perhaps for when you're given a choice between air and water.
      
      A good example of what I'm talking about is gravity. Gravity itself is important and easily
      proven, and understanding it has led to many advances, but on the other hand, the modern and most accurate concept of gravity has only existed for 300 and some-odd years, a drop in the ocean of human history. We were getting on fine before then. Well, as fine as humanity ever has.
      
      And most of us don't consciously apply gravity in our everyday lives. Our reflexes save us from most of the negative consequences of ignoring its existence.
      
      Maybe what I should have said is, it's less important to know and think about the more obvious it is. Maybe that in itself is obvious. Maybe I shouldn't try to be philosophical this close to the end of the work week.

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         Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I one what you meant.   But, I don't think I necessarily agree. I don't think the unknown is important. I think it piques our curiosity.  They aren't the same.

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            oceansnsunsetsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            The unknown, can actually be of the utmost importance, even to our very survival.  That has been the case since the beginning of time for humanity.  The example of gravity, its truthfulness, or how our blood works, is made, and pumps through our bodies, actually means our survival or not. 
            
            Talking about this in this way, helps to understand a bit more where Eric might be coming from, at least for me.

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         oceansnsunsetsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Eric, in the case of gravity, the way I kind of look at it is that its an example of something that is 100% true, and critical to our survival, REGARDLESS of if we give it a second thought or not. 
         
         It is part of a working world, that we need not have the proof of, or be convinced of 100%, for it to be critical to our being able to "work or live" on this planet.  I think its an example of many other things as well, that are 100% true regardless of whether or not we acknowledge them, see and understand them, or care about even.  We can deny gravity till the cows come home if we wanted to, and just assert things about it.  It won't change the actual facts though, of how it is so much a part of our lives.
         
         The cool thing is, we can learn about it, research it, test it, see if the idea seems reasonable, lol, etc. Does gravity explain a lot of what we see?  Yes.  Did it have to be understood and explained fully and proven, for it to be 100% true and part of our lives?  No....

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   Druid Dudeposted 12 years ago

   This is how I know that the existence or non-existence of God changes absolutely nothing.

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      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Then it's all an individual pipe dream, this "hope" thing some talk about.

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      oceansnsunsetsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Druid, what do you mean by "this", there?  What is it you are knowing exactly, and how, since you seem so sure?

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   bethperryposted 12 years ago

   I was going to reference oxygen and gravity but I see they've already been mentioned, lol. But in a nutshell I think the determination of importance is a relevant thing. A lot of people have searched all their lives for the meaning of love and a few of us have, we believe, been fortunate enough to have an epiphany. Yet love remains just as important to us, perhaps even more so with each passing day. And so I'd have to say I do not think the significance of anything can be determined by whether that thing possesses a mystique or is as rationally explainable by every scientific gauge known to man. The true importance of anything is determinable only by how valuable it is to the individual man (or woman).
   
   This is my two cents on the subject anyway.

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