Christians: is the existence of unemployment the active will of God?

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   BigJulesMagsposted 11 years ago

   Christians: is the existence of unemployment the active will of God?
   
   Or, simply His permissive will?  Does He allow it, or does He cause it?

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   Say Yes To Lifeposted 11 years ago

   I was raised to believe God micromanages, but I have since come to the conclusion that's not true.  I believe there are two Forces in this world; Positive and Negative.  The more we support Positive, the less unemployment there will be.  In other words, it's all on us.

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   jstfishinmanposted 11 years ago

   The realms between Spiritual battles, good and evil, is a matter of choice.Satan, the ruler of the earth, still has to work under God's direction. Jonah, if you want to look at it this way, was unemployed in the belly of the fish, because he didn't do God's will. Job couldn't work, because God allowed Satan to test him.
   God will use Satan to help build our Christian character, look at the 23rd Psalm, You prepare a table for me in the midst of mine enemies or yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death.
   The first question I always ask myself, anymore, is what is God trying to teach me. I have found that my trials are shorter, because I don't fight the lesson. I just give up and say, Yes Lord, teach me.
   Can God teach us a lesson in contentment during spells of unemployment? Of course He Can! Can He teach us to rely totally on Him? When we're unemployed, we don't have much choice!
   Sometimes our choices put us in these binds. Sometimes, if we have strayed, God allows trials and tribulations, to bring us back to Him.
   Look in the Old Testament at how God handled the spiritual wanderings of the Israelites. God will do what is best for us, though it may be difficult to see at times.

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   HeadlyvonNogginposted 11 years ago

   It's God's will that we have free will. And it's through our free will that there is the existence of unemployment. If God were to intervene and keep bad things from happening then it wouldn't really be a free will. There has to be the potential for negative consequences to our choices and actions for those choices and actions to matter.

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   Get Thin for Goodposted 11 years ago

   He allows it. Unemployment is due to our own free will.

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      dianetrotterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Not necessarily.  When companies downsize or send jobs overseas it is easy to find yourself unemployed.  When someone runs a Ponzi, there is a domino effect.

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      lburmasterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      But it is the companies free will to downsize or send jobs overseas. There are still jobs here, or you can go to a new location to find jobs. It is still your free will and choice.

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   Tony L Smithposted 11 years ago

   We were created to give, live, love and grow. Work is an expression of God through us. When someone is not working, it causes an inward feeling of uselessness. God is patient and merciful allowing us to find our way if we desire it. He is a quickening spirit, but not a tyrant. Part of our salvation is to find who we are in Him and develop a channel for Him to flow, create, serve, love and give through.
   An interesting hub to read related to this subject http://tonylsmith.hubpages.com/hub/Jesu … Lotto-line

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   Alexander Cohenposted 11 years ago

   I'm of the Calvinistic persuasion which recognizes that God does whatever He pleases and all things are according to the good pleasure of His will. In a broad sense nothing occurs without God decreeing it. It's not as if God has a crystal ball where He can "view" the future. If God could change the future He sees then what exactly was He looking at? If He can't change it then He's just a passive observer. I don't believe the Scriptures reveals a God that is either of those. God is active in this life and He decrees all things. No it doesn't mean He decrees evil (how could He, God is the standard by which we determine what's good in the first place). So how does this make sense. For an idea read the account in Genesis in which Joseph's brother's sell Joseph into slavery. Joseph explains years later that what they meant for evil (selling into slavery), God meant for good (the population of Egypt as well as the Jewish people were saved because Joseph helped provide food during the famine). So people's intentions are evil but God uses those actions for good (just look at Jesus's crucifixion, the most evil act in history on the part of those involved in killing Him but the most benevolent act in history on the part of God because all who believe on Jesus will be saved). So, what does this have to do with unemployment? Simply this, God decrees all things, including unemployment, but the end result will be much better than any evil intention of those that were the cause of the unemployment. Make sense?

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   dianetrotterposted 11 years ago

   God has a perfect will and a permissive will.  Within His perfect will, He allows people to make choices.  Often people make bad choices because of greed, ignorance, pressure, or whatever reason they may have.  Bad decisions by a few people often impact the masses:  Enron, the real estate mortgage fiasco, the person who shoots someone in a robbery or lots of people in a mass shooting, etc.  Those bad acts often cause unemployment.  As Christians, we must trust the Lord to know that all things, including tragedy, work together for our good.  Through tragedy we learn to minister to other  people as they go through.  I wrote a song, "Heaven is not like this," after going through persecution from choir members under my direction.  Out of that persecution, I wrote a song that has blessed many people, been performed at many funerals, and caused me to trust the Lord more.  http://dianetrotter.hubpages.com/hub/He … otlikethis

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   BuffaloGal1960posted 11 years ago

   The Bible says Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. He tries to steal our joy but only succeeds if we let him.  Having joy during trials is something many of us fall short on. 
   
   The directions?   Read him the word and tell him he has no authority.
   
   As Christians we look to GET health for example. No. We already have health. Satan just tries to steal it!  Tell those symptoms to leave. 
   
   I'm positive God is a supplier of our needs. He is faithful. If we lose a job, He has something better in mind!

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      BuffaloGal1960posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Mostly unemployment is due to the US government's inadequacies. God even allows kings to make fools of themselves.

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    somethgblueposted 11 years ago

    God is everything and everything is God, the question is some what obtuse. We are here to learn spiritual lessons and develop our faith in a Higher Power, every obstacle that is put before us is created to allow us to learn.
    
    Have you ever prayed to get a job? So what is the lesson you learned from that?
    
    When you learn to let God's love shine in your heart, you will begin to understand that he allows free will, to make choices that help to create wisdom so that you will make better and better choices to evolve the spirit.
    
    There are no bad choices just the limited human perception of them.

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    cynthtggtposted 11 years ago

    I guess you're admitting it is predominantly Christians out of work?  Is that what you're saying?

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    JThomp42posted 11 years ago

    Unemployment and things such as this are a direct consequence of actions of free will. God gives us all free will to do the things that will cause a negative or positive reaction in our lives. If this country would turn back to God, including politicians, then he may bless this nation as we once were.

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    lburmasterposted 11 years ago

    He allows it. Just like he allows rape and famine. He lets us make our own choices. Unfortunately, that means everyone can make their own choices. There are no exceptions. So even the antisocial individuals do what they want and cause problems.

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    C.V.Rajanposted 11 years ago

    There are umpteen things in life like poverty, diseases, suffering, violence, hatred, cruelty and so on. Why do you want to corner God on the problem of unemployment only?!

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