The Formative Plane

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   lovetherainposted 6 years ago

   Why is God so passive? I am beginning to think most of his work is being done through the active force/ aspect which is the organism I call the universe. Cause and effect are an illusion, and only found in the material plane which isn't really material at all. We are learning this through quantum mechanics. There really is no cause and effect, only association of meaning. This is seen through synchronicities. Some people see these synchronicities, and realize that they aren't merely coincidences. These associations of meaning happen in real time. Sometimes within seconds, but most often wihin hours or days. The more in tune you are, the quicker they are spaced together. The universe is ACTIVELY and consciously creating these synchronicities. The associative reality is the reality behind the material reality. It is the formative reality. I don't know if God exists in the associative reality. I suspect he does. It is like a dream. We dream because the associative reality is realer than the material reality. The universe sometimes brings people into the associative reality for lessons in spiritual growth.

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      lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      The formative plane is where archetypes are found. Archtypes for everything. These archtypes come in the form of morphic fields. Morphic fields are what organizes everything, from rocks to river flows to human beings and flocks of birds.

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         wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Morphic sounds like another spelling of "gravity", then, for gravity is what "organizes" rocks and river flows.  It is even what keeps human beings "organized" to the face of the earth rather than floating around, and what makes birds have wings.

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            lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Morphic fields are like magnetic fields. In fact, the magnetic field IS a morphic field.

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               wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Magnetism is not responsible for organizing where or what rocks are or for where rivers flow.  Gravity is.

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                  lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I didn't say that. I just gave you an example of a morphic field. I didn't say anything about gravity.

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                     wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     You said morphic fields organizes river flows.  While there are many things that contribute (earthquake, rainfall, type of stone, even animal life) the primary one is gravity.  Nothing to do with morphic fields.

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                        lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Sure there is gravity and the other three forces at work in nature. But it is morphic fields that control everything.

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                           wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           OK - you say morphic fields control (without ever defining or showing such fields).  I say gravity and the other forces of nature do it.  I have all observations on my side while you have the thoughts of philosophers that have never observed such a phenomenon. 
                           
                           I'll take my view; you can extend your beliefs to morphic fields as you wish.  To each their own, but I WILL say that without evidence you should not be making such statements as fact, but only as a belief.

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                              lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              It is my belief.

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                                 wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 Understood, and I have no problem with that.  None at all.  We all have beliefs we cannot support; I believe, for instance, that precognition is not factual as the future is not fixed until it happens, and I maintain that belief without a shred of evidence.
                                 
                                 But it is disingenuous to make such statements as "But it is morphic fields that control everything." when you cannot show it to be true.  Belief is NOT knowledge.

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                                    lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                    I'm not trying to be disingenuous. I just don't think to put that something is conjecture/speculation/belief before I write it. I will try to do so in the future.

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                                       wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                         Good for you.  It's just we see SO much misinformation today, particularly on the web.  Intentional lies, errors, and yes, belief presented as absolute fact.

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