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   sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

   Israel and Iran prepare militaries for war. Iran hastily approached Russia for more aircraft, while Israel plans strike before the years end.
   
   this is not going away. So, what countries are going to sit back and watch? Which countries will become immediately involved?

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      awareposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      aircraft aint going to help iran with this one

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   sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

   All the while the "American News Pulse" indicates that America is most interested in 'Google's' appology to Michelle Obama- because a "racist monkey image" portraying her as an ape topped image results for 3 days.
   
   Oh and Adam Lambert is top news of corse.
   
   Gay.

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      Ivorwenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Why?  No one ever apologised for showing Bush as a monkey?

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         sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I know. He did look like a monkey too. haha. I thought the photo was funny.
         
         racism has been put back on the front burner. the last 50 years of progress are lost.

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   Ivorwenposted 15 years ago

   So much fun... well, it is going to happen sooner or later.  No amount of peace talks can solve the problems there.
   
   As to which countries are going to do what, I have no idea.

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      bukanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Its really embarrassing that you like "Wars" this will never stops unless this will take huge amount of lives.

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   sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

   No, its going to happen within a month.
   
   I cannot see how this will not get the world involved.

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      sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Let me make some predictions.
      
      1. Oprah will run for some form of political office in the next few years. wait...
      back to war.
      
      2. BIG ONE- Russia won't be the first involved, but they will get involved in the early stages. So will the Koreans, Pakistan.
      
      3. US will sit back as long as possible- while forking supplies to Israel.
      
      4. Somebody is pulling out Nukes in the first year.

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   XTASISposted 15 years ago

   It's going to be a great mess.
   
   while all this mess was on it's way, people where very concerned about Lambert's sexuality, or if mrs. Obama was a monkey or not.
   Strange world

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      sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It is the most important news in America. CNN makes sure Vanity is #1. but we love it don't we?

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         XTASISposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Maybe you do !
         I'm not American

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         Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         CNN is the front line!

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   sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

   No, I don't like the Vanity of it all. I am searching for papers that have printed this news. I would put it front page- seems most have not printed anything.
   
   My patritriotism is gone.

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      XTASISposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry to hear .

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         sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         me too.

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   sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

   I know XTASIS,
   
   I just didn't see you being the one who would care. No offense- I'm liking your depth.

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      XTASISposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I usually keep my depth to myself
      Here in the forum I tend to be more frivolous.
      I come here for fun
      And for a good fight too, as I'm sure you are aware.

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         sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I understand

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   habeeposted 15 years ago

   I'm worried about the US being defenseless, with so many troops elsewhere. I don't know that much about the military. Should I be worried about the troops thing?

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      sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      of corse. there is nothing un-natural about that thought. We should seriously prioritize our troop deployment right now. 1. finish the wars we are involved= huge colateral damage. 2. pull out completely= inatverted colateral damage.

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      readytoescapeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes after the outrage announced about the SEALs being up on charges for a terrorist getting a bloody lip, who the hell will fight with that kind of support

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         sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         indeed. lets criminalize our troops.

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            readytoescapeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Lack of fortitude equals defeat.

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   sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

   Guess who will probably sit this one out the longest? Answer- China.
   
   They have extraordinary patience- and are building aircraft carriers surprisingly similar to ours.
   
   who will they join? will they join anyone at all?

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    yes it does. I feel defeated already. Really. This is so much bigger than me- and you.

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       readytoescapeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Only if we allow it too. I'm screaming at the top of my lungs and will argue my point with anyone that has the courage to take an opposing view or wants to just put their head in the sand

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          sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I only want to spread the news so that people can understand that our days of comfort are nearing an end. I don't have the fight in me to take Americas rightful stance on the inevitable. This war is going to happen, and if everyone has these falsified hopes that we will somehow not become involved, they can remember these words when gas prices are $16.00 a gallon. Food is so unafordable that ADAM LAMBERT and OPRAH can't even aford it and they hear that the first nukes have struck multiple countries.

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             marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I thought you had faith? I didn't know you had so much fear when you have faith.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    I only fear for the pain my children and grand-children will endure durring the last days. All children as far as that goes.

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       marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I thought there is no pain when you have faith?

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    I thought you read the scripture?

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       marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I did. You are the one that is forgetting that fear or pain shouldn't conquer faith and that "worrying" solves and gains nothing. Who is the one that didn't read? I only had to read it once. How many times have you read it?

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    XTASISposted 15 years ago

    I think this is not the time nor the place to argue faith
    that's very childish
    really !!!!!!

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       marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Why do you hate me when I love you?

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       sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       it is.
       
       back to my point.
       
       "I only want to spread the news so that people can understand that our days of comfort are nearing an end. I don't have the fight in me to take Americas rightful stance on the inevitable. This war is going to happen, and if everyone has these falsified hopes that we will somehow not become involved, they can remember these words when gas prices are $16.00 a gallon. Food is so unafordable that ADAM LAMBERT and OPRAH can't even aford it and they hear that the first nukes have struck multiple countries."
       
       We hold so dear our vanities. Americans have become so vain I fear they will so deeply miss the vanities and become most fragile.

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          marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Fear is not logical.

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    tantrumposted 15 years ago

    Tha worst thing fo all, is all the deaths for nothing

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       sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       In know. if man were given a start over 100 times in a row, it would always end this way.

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          marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Are you going to answer my comment or just forget about it?

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          tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Fighting is within humans.
          and it's good ,when it's for survival.
          not for greed.

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             sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             do you think canibals call it a 'food fight'.

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                tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Yes, of course.

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       marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       People have to die and kill sometimes to be safe. Animals do this as well.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    I'm going to forget about it. Not that I think you don't have something more to say, but because you are going to the same redundant place in which you cannot escape.

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       marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Are you mad because I know your belief better than you do with only reading it once?
       
       If you were wrong, would you admit you were wrong? I don't think the bible taught you to lie.

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          lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          lost in translation :

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             marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

             lol So is he.
             
             
             sooner than later wrote:
             I thought you read the scripture?
             
             Marine: I did. You are the one that is forgetting that fear or pain shouldn't conquer faith and that "worrying" solves and gains nothing. Who is the one that didn't read? I only had to read it once. How many times have you read it?

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    no, i am dissapointed because you lack the depth to talk about the topic at hand. I will not go around and around so that you can stroke your ego- and who knows what else.
    
    
    remeber me when you have your rubber gloves back on and are peeling potatoes some place in Turkey(its a country too!!!).

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       tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       

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          marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Why do you hate me?

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             tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                
             
                     XTASIS wrote:
             
                        
             
             IGNORE  would be the proper word.
             and this is my last word to you.
             Posted 60 minutes ago

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       marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       An ego isn't logical. I'm not stroking an ego. I think you are mad because I remember your belief better than you. This is logical because it would be natural for you to be mad when I remember more than you from reading it once.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    Who will be the first country to back iran, outside of supplies which is already Russia?

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    N. Korea is itching to get involved in something. They are nutty enough to let some missiles fly. South Korea didn't help by blasting one of their boats to shreds in the "no sail zone" about a week and a half ago. so, maybe when they enter, things will fly in both directions there as well.

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       marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I can understand. I wouldn't like it much if you understood my belief better than I did. Happy Thanksgiving to you anyways.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    It will probably by Syria from the very start though. Iran and Syria formed a defense treaty in 2004. That makes 2 the israelies fight right from the opening day. but N. Korea can basically be counted in as well.

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       tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       the question is China.

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          marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Why are you angry?

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          sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          yes they are. They have the best position of any country. Nobody will risk war with them. they have reserved their right to silence- but they are scary as hell. their previous military leader for the last 40 years is very open about his dreams of a 'slave' like empoyerment over Americans.

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             tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I get the picture.
             It's scary, but it makes me laugh as well. Sorry !

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    tantrumposted 15 years ago

    XTASIS wrote:
    
               
    
    IGNORE  would be the proper word.
    and this is my last word to you.
    Posted 60 minutes ago

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    marinealways24posted 15 years ago

    No wonder why we repeat history and go to war! People will refuse to even say why they are angry! So much hate! Grrrr

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    I imagine it makes any foreigner laugh.
    
    I do see the humor as we are so self engulfed, but it does frighten me still.

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       tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Welcome to the New World Order !
       
       
       
       

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          sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          dang it, I don't get pics. All I see is url=http bizzraz.

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             tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Oh I'm sorry !
             It's a microwave with a smiley inside
             you can imagine the rest !
             

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    Guess who is hording mountains of steel, and has slowed export of it to 1/8 in the last 10 years?
    
    you guessed it- CHINA
    
    steel builds an army.

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       marinealways24posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       It's all a conspiracy and the antichrist is coming right?

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       tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       there's a prophesy somewhere that says China will rule the world.
       Don't remember where I read that, because I'm not very fond of them.
       I find prophecies boring .

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          Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I too am not the prophesy sort but your steel correlation seems fitting.  I for one will not be fighting, I have declared mental incompetence   Don't worry Aussie fellas, I'll man the fort and look after the ladies.

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             sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             haha, well I'm sure the Aussies will be proud to have you back home. Prophecy for me is most interesting. I am going to start another thread about the final prophecy. I will break it down to paint the picture that it is.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    and a navy.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    and many parts of an air force.

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       tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Oh well !
       Enjoy what time is left!

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          sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          tofu turkey tomorrow.

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             tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             you can begin with that

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    then smother my wife in the gravy.

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       tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       
       
       
       

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    

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    pylos26posted 15 years ago

    Israeli papers and ambassador anounce war is inevitable for 2009.
    
    
    Well...I declare!!!...So, why not cheer the bastards on.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    I guess, I hate to see it come to this.

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    cheaptrickposted 15 years ago

    I was sent to War many years ago.If you believers are right and there is a God and He dose nothing.Well "ride the Lightening" or not I wouldn't bow down to Him..I know thats a harsh thing to say but anyone whose been there would agree that War is only one thing...BAD!

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       sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       well, there is a lot more to that then what you have just stated here. I understand war is terrible- but it is important to understand how much God intervene's with mans war these days(not at all). For what it is worth, there is only one more war for man kind in prophecy. That is another thread altogether.

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    Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago

    If it goes ahead like you say, Egypt will be a player certainly.  The UK no doubt and of course the French.  If Israel/US goes to war with Iran, Egypt will join in on the other side perhaps?  The proverbial will really hit the fan if those two go to war.

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    Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago

    THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAEL/PALESTINE CONFLICT ACCORDING TO THE STANFORD DAILY
    
    Cause for concern?
    
    Quotes from the above link,
    "Historical sources state that in 1947, Palestine was populated with approximately 1.2 million Arabs and 600,000 Jews. Despite this population ratio of 2:1, and despite the fact that the distribution of land ownership was 92 percent to 94 percent Palestinian Arab and 6 percent to 8 percent Jewish, the U.N. partition plan called for a Jewish state on 56 percent of historic Palestine and a Palestinian Arab state on 44 percent. According to the U.N. partition plan, therefore, a significant amount of Arab-owned land was to be designated as part of the Jewish state. As such, it is hardly surprising that Palestinian Arabs at the time rejected the loss of significant chunks of their homeland.
    
    
    "Thus, rising out of this context, a civil war was waged between Jews and Palestinian Arabs from November 1947 until May 1948. After the State of Israel was unilaterally declared on May 15, 1948, a regional war ensued between the newly established state and the Arab armies of Syria, Egypt, Jordan and Iraq."

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    Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago

    "I believe 2010 will be the year of sanctions," he said. "To see result of the sanctions would need at least one year and the co-operation of Russia and China. The Iranians are using a policy of buying time and so far they are very successful. It is race against time, and so far time is winning." Deputy opposition leader, formerly Israel's military commander and Iranian born Jew.
    (Source: BBC NEWS, [BBC NEWS THE SHADOW BEHIND US-ISRAELI WAR GAMES

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       sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Wonderful article thank you.
       
       I feel this is the silence before the storm. Notice the presence of US military is dubbed an exercise. Notice moderate Israeli silence. Iran won't budge- Israel can't risk the inevitable.

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    Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago

    "Taipei-based, Dr. Parris Chang is President of the Taiwan Institute for Political Economic and Strategic Studies and Professor Emeritus of Political Science of Pennsylvania State University. His former positions include Representative of Taiwan's Trade Mission to Bahrain, Deputy Secretary-General of Taiwan's National Security Council and Chairman of the National Defense Committee and of the Foreign Relations Committee of the Legislative Yuan (Taiwan's parliament). His publications include Power and Policy in China, If China cross the Taiwan Strait (coauthor and coeditor), and scores of articles in academic and popular journals in the U.S., U.K., Japan, Hong Kong and other countries.
    
    Dr. Chang's thesis is that China has been developing military and trade relationships in the Middle East that will come at the expense of American interests."
    
    Source:  JINSA; The Jewish Institute For National Security Affairs CHINA%27S">http://www.jinsa.org/node/1221]CHINA'S POLICY TOWARD IRAN AND THE MIDDLE EAST

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    BTW, I agree Egypt and the Palestinians are a shoe in.
    
    Great points Bovine.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    Iran thinks they are buying time while Israel plans a decisive strike.
    
    Why do you suppose the facility inspection reports are contradictory?

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    marcofratelliposted 15 years ago

    God help us all...

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    I am going to be in Israel at the end of this year with my familly. I booked the tickets months ago.

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    rhamsonposted 15 years ago

    The world brought it on itself if this causes a world war.
    
    You can only smack a dog around so long before he gets the courage to bite you.
    
    I only hope that we can learn to live with the aftermath.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    No, aircraft will not help them. Russia would not risk selling 250 fighter jets to them at this point either. If they did, they would contract their own pilots for actual training and less aircraft losses. But, the Israelies are probably not the pilots to train against. that would be foolish.
    
    I would really like to see Iran meet some demands. Its seems the Israelies have become extremely quiet, which means one thing.

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    awareposted 15 years ago

    one statement  . Israel should be wiped from the map. by iran letting that be said. they crossed a line.  one statement can  help calm things. that would be for iran to say we dont feel that way

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    Iran should say anything to get Israel calmed a bit. Many countries are saying that Iran is not a threat. Not a threat to who? the countries that are defending Iran of corse.
    
    Words are vain, talk is cheep? doesn't seem to be the case.

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    awareposted 15 years ago

    i dont fear iran or see them as a threat . every nation on earth should know this that there are several country's, the usa being one of them .  that can seal alls fate with the push of a button. nukes are fubar

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       sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       taking out their facility then is one of two things.
       1. early preventative maintenance.
       2. the beginning of the end.

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    sooner than laterposted 15 years ago

    Now, what we havn't discussed is who joins Israels ranks.

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    awareposted 15 years ago

    its one on one.

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       sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       you mean their battle or our conversation?
       What are you doing in your photo, by the way?

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    awareposted 15 years ago

    im 25 story's up on a swing stage fixing a architectural band . that was damaged by what you might ask? a swingstage just like the one im on.when you ride a swing you got to push off certain obstacles that are in the way . the painters that rode the last drop forgot that

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       sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       

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    awareposted 15 years ago

    and one on one meaning isrial and iran

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       sooner than laterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       yeah, I don't see that going one on one. Israel will go it alone at first, but who will jump in when they are teamed up on?

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    awareposted 15 years ago

    i spoke to  my friend in iran today

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    awareposted 15 years ago

    to get back on topic

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    awareposted 15 years ago

    we will

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