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Dating on Craigslist or How to Drive Yourself Insane!

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By Brie Hoffman



Single in New York City

So here I am in New York City where a plethora of men await me. Dating has never been my forte but surely in this sea of men, provided for by Craigslist, Match.com and Myspace I would find my one and only, my soul-mate, if the idea of a soul-mate really does exist. I put an ad on Craigslist, get 60 to 100 responses, initially feel good, then overwhelmed like I have a never ending stack of paper on my desk that I have to sift through one by one. They all start sounding alike. I start to think we should have relationship resumes complete with references and current telephone numbers. It sure would cut through the crap. I had started to make a list of all the men I had gone out with and why they were incompatible. This list justified my lack of a relationship if not to my family and friends at least to myself. It made me think I wasn't crazy.

OK here it is:

  • He had cats and was allergic to dogs (I have a dog and am allergic to cats).
  • He loved the country and hated the city (do I really have to explain this one?).
  • He was an ex-Catholic priest who didn't like to argue (enough said).
  • He was a psycho vegetarian who had posters of old women and stuffed animals strewn throughout his apartment. I am not kidding nor am I exaggerating (more about him later).
  • He was obnoxious and could not quit talking about himself to save his life.
  • He didn't like it that I was a Christian, he was Jewish but didn't practice...go figure!
  • He was 100 pounds overweight and about 15 years older than his picture. I couldn't have picked him out of a line-up!
  • He was 6'5", I'm 4'10"
  • He was very small and tiny, unusually tiny, like freakishly tiny, (for some reason that bugged me).
  • He was poor and wanted to smuggle store bought beer into an already cheap bar.

Ok, so having gone over this list in my, beleaguered attempt at editing, it might sound as if I am a little picky, just a little mind you. But, in my defense I would counter that argument saying that this is New York City, there are more men here than say Boise, Idaho, there are more varieties of men and therefore more varieties of incompatible men. In Boise, Idaho (and I am not picking on Boise for all you Boisians out there, it could be anywhere outside of New York) you might have a choice between A. The poor guy who wanted to smuggle beer into a pub or B. the 6' 5" guy. But, here in New York City you have A through Z to choose from and they are all just a computer ad away. You can see my dilemma.

Talking to men online is like talking to the Velveteen Rabbit before he becomes real. They are all so anonymous, sometimes they are anonymous even after you meet them but it's really bad beforehand. I remedy this with note taking, it doesn't have the power of the Blue Fairy to make them real but it helps. The only thing that makes them real is "The Connection". Sometimes the connection can take one meeting or date, sometimes it takes several, but once the connection is made they become real. If you go out on a date and they don't become real, then that's it, no second date, no Blue Fairy magic, no nothing, just another Velveteen Rabbit. Oy, I could open up a toy store!

So what is a girl to do but close your eyes and pick one out of the hundreds of suitor/ads and go with it. Of course you will want to get a look at the all powerful and all encompassing PIC. So I pick one and go out. If I am lucky enough to meet someone who even remotely resembles his picture I am fortunate. Then comes the initial meeting. This is when you calculate in your mind with the wizardry of a top-notch computer whether this guy sitting across from you has any potential whatsoever in making your life better or whether you've just wasted another perfectly good evening, cynical I know but nevertheless. This is not to mention all the guys that you didn't pick that could have been the ONE. That concept alone drives me crazy. I mean for every guy you do go out with there are 100 that you don't go out with. So the odds are 100 to 1, they are not in your favor and it's maddening to think about.

Not that I think that I am Miss Wonderful. All the while my insecurities are whispering in my ear "you're too fat", "you are having a bad hair day", "you're too short", "you're talking too much, slow down", etc, etc. It's a wonder they don't have specialty nut houses for the terminally single!

So I agree to go out with this guy, yeah, yeah, yeah another Craigslist guy. We talk on the phone and he sounds a little nerdy but intelligent and I like guys who are a little nerdy but intelligent. So we talk on the phone a bit and yeah there isn't any chemistry but he lives close by and he's a writer and writer's are cool right :). So I agree to meet up with him. He is passing by my apartment and he wants to meet and I just happen to be making brownies and invite him in for some brownies. He stops by for a few minutes (enough for me to see if he is a horror or not) and he seems nice enough and looks good enough and I can hear all my friends and family in unison (can you hear them?) telling me how picky I am so I figure what the hell, I'll give him a shot. So, he asks me over to his place for dinner. I don't think too much of it because previously he said that he didn't like to go out to eat, so I said sure.

I arrive at his place. I knew that we were not a match when I spied out of the corner of my eye a furry gorilla, the size of a real gorilla sitting on a chair in his living room. I noticed another animal of the same stuffed species kind sitting on another chair, this one was a full-sized German Shepherd. The antenna is rising, the red flags are scrambling to reach the mast of the ship, full sail ahead! He then proceeds to show me the rest of his apartment, complete with more stuffed animals on his bed, in his bedroom, on his couch and in the closets. On the walls were life-sized cardboard cutouts of celebrities. The coup de gras was a bigger than life-sized cardboard cutout of an old woman in a wheelchair located in his bedroom where you could see her upon first waking up in the morning. Immediately, I regret not bringing a weapon and start talking to myself. You know the words: "just get through the night", "make a mental note of all exits", "make sure to mention you have a communicable disease of some sort in the dinner conversation", you know the usual fare.

He proceeds to make dinner as if he were a normal person. Dinner consists of steamed kale, millet and a veggie burger with onions, not your usual first date dinner, but why should anything be usual at this point? Two of the three items I had never consumed in my life. At this point I was trying to think of ways to become unbearably unattractive, if I could have manufactured a burp or two I would have gladly have done so, unfortunately I was not blessed with that talent. During dinner he is looking at me and telling me how beautiful I am. Under most any other circumstances I would have eaten that up, here and now I am considering telling him I have AIDS and only have 6 months to live. But, lady that I am I can't do it. So we finish eating and we go and sit on the couch with a nice liquor that didn't have nearly enough alcohol in it to make the night tolerable (do they make alcohol that is 200% proof ?). He then starts to tell me that he has a massage table in the back and how adept he is at massage. At this point I stand up and tell him I have an early morning appointment and quickly make my exit. Considering the way I left you would think that it was quite clear that I was not interested. But no, a couple of months later he called and asked me out saying that he thought that we had chemistry. I told him "no, no, there was definitely no chemistry, sorry", and that was it another Craigslist date in New York City.

It never ceases to amaze me how a potential partner can be so picture perfect on paper and yet so irreconcilably wrong in the real world. My qualifications or expertise in making this statement is my lifetime membership in every single matchmaking online singles dating site known to womankind. I should have an honorary degree in dating by now, instead I have another 6 months free membership to continue walking the purgatory known as singledom in your 40's. You know you are getting jaded when you look at your latest wink, nod or kiss with the focused objective of trying to figure out if the man who just winked at you might possibly have spent time in prison, is running a scam or has actually buried his last wife under the floorboards. It's difficult to remain open at this point. But, open-minded one must remain otherwise you might as well exchange your vacation spot in purgatory for a little cottage in hell.

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Will  says:
11 months ago

Greetings from a New York transplant in Boise Idaho.Believe it or not there are alot of transplants here ,we can even get Progresso in the stores now!Alas I do miss the city ,especially the Italian,,,all the different ethnic deli shops,cant get a good sausage pepper and onion sandwich here.

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Brie Hoffman  says:
11 months ago

Hi Will:

Hopefully the dating scene is better in Boise!

Diana  says:
11 months ago

There are alot of great guys here in the city and women too, but for whatever reason, (age, weight, employment status or even dare I say race) many people CHOOSE to be single.

What I have found is when I opened up to people my friends wouldn't give the time of day I did find someone! And I found him on craigslist. We have been dating for a year now and things are really great, we have disagreements like any other couple but we both know what makes a relationship work is getting past the quirks and different way of looking at things and concentrating on our love for each other or for someone still looking, trying to get to the point of loving each other.

When you talked about the guy who had the stuffed animals in his apartment did you ask him why he had so many? Maybe he has them because he simply likes them, was that a reason to cut and run??? Many times we as women overlook the decent guy because of what we would call a quirk. Suppose you had a date over at your apartment and after seeing all the books you have on your bookshelf he was intimated and cut and run... What would that say about him? To me it would say that, as soon as something went wrong or things got bad should there have been a relationship in the future you would cut and run.

Anyhow I hope you find your match, I am happy as an irish gal with her african american man, he looks so much like Barack Obama! :)

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Brie Hoffman  says:
11 months ago

Thanks for writing Diana. I guess the idea of a man in his late 40's with a huge number of large stuffed animals, not to mention the card board cut out of the old lady in a wheel chair is a deal breaker for me! Glad you found someone :)

Brie

Brian  says:
11 months ago

Being 6'5....I'd be disenchanted if I showed up to a date, and a woman was 4'10, so I can feel your pain.

Jeff  says:
11 months ago

Brie,

I can understand your frustration but to be frank, I think women hold the key on the dating sites. As a general rule, they are the ones who get contacted and then make the determination of whether they would--or would not--like to continue the conversation/communication. Somehow, men have to try and distinguish themselves from the multitude of responses that women get and that can be a difficult task. For purposes of this response , I will use myself as an example: I'm 52, look much younger, recently divorced, from what i am told very good-looking, very hwp,multi-degreed professional. I don't really find it particularly easy to talk about myself but try. From my perspective, none of this stuff is amazingly distinguishable from what would be a number of similar responses---so very few, if any, come my way. Yet, I know that IF I was able to meet some of these women, there is a chance an attraction would be present. So, it's similarly disappointing on this end as well

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Brie Hoffman  says:
11 months ago

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for writing, it might also depend on where you live, have you tried match.com?

Brie

Jeff  says:
11 months ago

Hi Brie,

It may be dependent on location but I live in an metropolitan area of greater than 3 million, so that is not exactly applicable. Haven't tried Match.com yet so I guess that's an option although I cannot see it being much different. Am I wrong about that?

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Brie Hoffman  says:
11 months ago

Well, you usually get what you pay for and Craigslist is free so the people are a bit more cavalier. I would try it for a month, really what do you have to lose?

Brie

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goldentoad  says:
11 months ago

I would look for a job or some work out equipment on craig's list, not a date.

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Brie Hoffman  says:
11 months ago

It's a method, simple and sweet, it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't.

Another Jeff  says:
10 months ago

In your case, it sounds like it doesn't work more often than not...

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Brie Hoffman  says:
10 months ago

Actually, I have had very good relationships from CL, I just haven't written about them :)

bev  says:
10 months ago

Dating from Craigslist is suicide. Are you guys crazy. He/she could be pscyo waiting in the wings.

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Brie Hoffman  says:
10 months ago

It's like anyother blind date.

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Jellyrug  says:
10 months ago

Brie

I'm the old fashioned type, life is short, way too short and there are so many things to do and simply not enough time. Explore what you enjoy most, such a sport or a hobby, by doing this, mingle with people who enjoy the same things as you do, make new friends and soon you will develop a relationship naturally.

I know online dating is a big thing, but personally I believe there are much more fun ways to meet people, become friends first and then develop into a relationship naturally.

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marklangston  says:
10 months ago

Thanks for sharing.

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Anna Marie Bowman  says:
10 months ago

You seem like such a great person, I can't imagine that it is that hard to find someone...

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Brie Hoffman  says:
10 months ago

Thanks Anna, unlucky in love I guess. But, I still have hope.

geri  says:
10 months ago

couldn't have said it better myself. i can totally identify with your experiences and opinions. having no solution ,all i can say is good luck.

btw,there's nothing wrong with being selective.

ciao

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Brie Hoffman  says:
10 months ago

Thanks for writing Geri, I agree

TudorCityGirl  says:
10 months ago

OH my! Thank you for the laughs!!! I see I am far from the only one in NYC having more than their fare share of crazy dates. Your story was hilarious!

As for Craig's List - that site attracts the weirdest of the bunch. I'm sure you know this but keep to meeting them in a public place the first couple of times.

After all the bad experiences, it is easy to understand why so many people are now choosing to be single.

Good Luck!

TudorCityGirl

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Brie Hoffman  says:
10 months ago

Yea I'm starting to think that a dog might be the better choice!

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MattUSAF2525  says:
9 months ago

Did you ever find out why he had a wheel chair lady cutout in his room? By the way you're very sexy. And at 4 feet 10 inches..even sexier. Short women are hott to me. Maybe the reason you may be "too picky" is that you have millions of men to choose from in NY. Where as in other places with less choices you wouldn't be. Im 27 and i feel the rush as you do, but you're in your 30's right? No worries gorgeous. :)

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Brie Hoffman  says:
9 months ago

No, I never did. And, thanks for the compliments...by the way, I'm 47.

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MattUSAF2525  says:
8 months ago

OMG you look incredible for 47. Never would have come close to guessing that. And YOU can't find a guy? I think maybe theres just something wrong with the men you meet..nothing wrong with you though..not..at..all.

ottogrimes7452  says:
8 months ago

Haha a very funny read :) And yes a shocker that you are 47.. Tempted to make some compliments but neh.. will make me look bad more than it will make you look good :)

Keep on writing, you definitely have "the skill"!

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Brie Hoffman  says:
8 months ago

Thanks ottogrimes7452

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