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C E Clark says
brblog, that sounds nice except that numerous employers like UPS, the University of Virginia and others have cut insurance for spouses as a result of this act and the massive increased cost associated with it. So they are affected.
To think the government can get involved in anything and not effect the public sector is wrong. Especially, insurance, these new government employees with limited training are going to affect insurance negatively. They need to pass Ins. broker tests.
The only positive to this whole legislation is it is so bad it may crash the whole system vs the current slow encroachment by gov't. Then maybe we'll see some real reforms with actual market incentives and proper allocation of resources.
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Rochelle Frank says
How come Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Reagan (I think), Bush 41, Clinton, and Obama wanted something like Obamacare? Where they all incompetent dopes like you think Obama is?
Reagan did not support anything remotely similar to the way this was structured. Only an ER mandate. And the rest were all part of an ongoing political machine that implements policies that empower the government rather than those they govern.
How about this. Instead of an individual mandate; just make it a crime to incur a hospital bill that someone else has to pay for, IF you could have afforded insurance but chose not to buy it; say one day in jail for every dollar you can't pay.
Or how about some actual price discovery in the healthcare industry. It was quite affordable before the gov't decided to involve itself and distort the market. But that's what they did with every market they participate in like housing.
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S Leretseh says
And it just keeps costing us more and more and we all know it will never be...not what it claimed anyway...
Why shouldn't all employee's with employer provided health plans have to buy Obamacare then, if you want the Federal employees to? They are no different, why should private employees be exempt?
B A Tobin says
My Esoteric says
Social Security is mandatory, whether it is an investment or not. If you oppose "mandatory", to avoid being called a hypocrite, you must oppose Social Security and Medicare.
The gov't hasn't been managing healthcare, why is it so expensive now?
The gov't hasn't been managing healthcare ??? Medicare is the largest health insurer in the US. Since it's creation healthcare inflation has been more than 40% higher than CPI.Prior to it's creation 1935-1965 CPI averaged 2.8% & Medical CPI wa
Not only that but Medicare only pays about half of what they are billed by hospitals, leaving the taxpayers that go to a hospital to pay extra for treatment. No wonder hospitals and doctors are going out of business!
Last part was cut off. Medical inflation was 3% prior to medicare. And what most people don't get is insurance has nothing to do with care.Top institutes like the Mayo Clinic have stopped accepting Medicare in parts of the country,along with others.
Interesting analysis. One the one hand you blame Medicare for causing the huge inflation in medical care but, on the other hand, they did it by keeping their prices low; so low in fact that apparently no hospital or Dr wants to accept it.
No I blaming medicare for shifting a disproportionate amount of cost onto others and eliminating competition from the market while slowly destroying the process of price discovery. Every time the gov't gets involved in a market prices skyrocket.
and an order of magnitude of people suffer less; it is a matter of where your priorities lie, isn't it. There is a major public cost consequence associated with 30 - 40 million Americans not having insurance today; imagine the cost without Medicare.
What are you talking about. Medical care was more widely available before the gov't involved itself. Dr's made house calls and negotiated prices. People paid what they could afford. The cost of the gov't being involved has hurt availability
Not if you were uninsured it wasn't. If you didn't have insurance, you simply suffered or died in place. Why do you think Medicare was created for the elderly. just to pass the time and give Congress something to do?
False, most people didn't buy insurance because the cost of care was reasonable. And the elderly who were indigent were already covered under the Kerr-Mills Act. Medicare was passed to empower politicians and make people dependent on politicians.
We are probably the same age, old, and must remember two different worlds. I remember, before medical care was deregulated, you could get good care at a reasonable price (for middle class people who had insurance). But I barely remember house calls
Deregulated ??? The gov't has done nothing but regulate medical care for the last 50 years. Every Dr I know is totally bogged down in Gov't bureaucracy
There is a big difference between bureaucracy and regulation. Once drugs couldn't be advertised, Drs could work independently without fear of a monopoly driving them out of business. Deregulation changed all of that and led to huge price increases.
Govt creates the monopoly by making it to costly to operate a small practice.When Drs deal directly with patients prices go down http://bangordailynews.com/2013/05/27/news/portlan...
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