George Will is quitting the GOP because of Trump

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   promisemposted 7 years ago

   George Will, one of my favorite conservative columnists, is leaving the Republican Party because of Trump. Your thoughts on his decision?
   
   http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/ … index.html

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      wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      We all make choices, don't we?  But it is interesting that such a large portion of the "establishment" that controls our lives is fighting the people's choice.  Sad, but I see his chances of the presidency falling every day with such a powerful opponent as the large majority of the American controlling structure against him.  Should have foreseen it though - he's upsetting the apple cart and they don't like it.

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         promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Wilderness, I honestly question whether Trump really wants the job, and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way.
         
         I read one of his former aides saying that Trump was as surprised as anyone that he got this far. He just went to Scotland to reopen one of his golf courses. He has raised very little money and continues to make public statements that undermine support from potential voters.
         
         http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/03/2 … -President

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            PrettyPantherposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I think he ran for president as a money-making scheme, as did many of the Republican candidates.  He shocked himself and went all the way.  I also believe he doesn't really want to be president.

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               wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Pretty expensive scheme, but gotta love the mud.  At least we know Clinton would never run for President for the money or power - all she wants is the White House furniture and artwork that she had to give back last time she stole it.

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                  PrettyPantherposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Clinton clearly enjoys money and power. No doubt about it.  She also is extremely intelligent and knowledgable about government and world affairs, something that cannot legitimately be said of Trump. That's my opinion, of course, but I believe it will be embarrassingly evident after the first debate if he makes it that far.

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                     wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     I agree that Clinton is quite intelligent (so is Trump) and fairly knowledgeable about world affairs.  That's what bothers me so much - her ability to use our government to further her aims and desires.  I do not believe that she cares one whit about the people or the country - it is all just fodder for her power base and that scares me.  She's too good at manipulating it.
                     
                     And Trump is not.  He may want the power, but he doesn't have the knowledge or ability to wrest it from congress.  Clinton does and has - coupled with a complete lack of consideration for the people that put her there, that's a major problem.  A major character flaw that both candidates share to at least some extent and in different ways, but Clinton can and will capitalize on it while Trump cannot.

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                        colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        You have clear thoughts. The system has been rigged by those that rigged it, and Hillary is one of those.
                        
                        Hitler (edited) said, children belong to the community.
                        
                        Hillary said, it takes a village to raise a child.  She was too busy to actually write the book titled "It Takes A Village" (1996), but never gave credit to the writer. 
                        
                        ADDED:
                        It takes a village to raise a child, is an African proverb.

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               promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               I suspect both parties have candidates who run for president with other motives in mind, even without any chance of being elected.

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            wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Perhaps that's what we need.  Most people will do their best, whether they want the job or not, but if they don't it seems reasonable to think that they didn't run to enrich themselves or gain power.

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            Solarasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            +1,000,000,000

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      Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      That is hot news, ABC's 'This Week's' conservative clarion is leaving the GOP? He is one of the intellectual buttresses of conservative ideology and ideas. So, who is going to jump ship next?
      
      Of what does this portend?

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         promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I believe it will soon rain cats and dogs.

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      rhamsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Frankly it is a relief that a journalist who aligns himself with one side of the argument is stepping aside. I prefer an impartial point of view as more informative and therefore more informative. It is in alignment with my views of Supreme Court Justices. If any of them claims a certain slant before even hearing a case I would prefer they be silent.

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         promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I agree that no journalist should line up with one side of the argument. I just wonder if Will is really a journalist. He seems to be more of a commentator. I think he got his start as a professor.

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         Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I would rather have passionate promoters of either side of an issue make their case and  I get to decide which of the two has the greater merit

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            wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            The problem there is that "passionate promoters" never give all the facts, and what they DO give is usually a lie or gross exaggeration.  Before deciding merit one must thus worm out the small grains of truth and that isn't always easy.

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            ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            The problem with that is that  there is one , no neutral  media ,   two most people cannot decide for themselves enough to not realize how slanted that media is anyway , three , the media then  has an agenda that THEY decide  what you hear .
            
            I don't want journalists  reporting news of their opinion  , I want reporters reporting news.  There used to be a difference.

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            rhamsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Maybe that is a good position to take if you are on the fence of an issue. But many who listen to so called esteemed commentators lack anything that resembles a working knowledge of the issues and take a biased view as gospel and not a carefully worded presentation of factual rhetoric. I would rather trust that the one who is telling me something has nothing but a journalistic reason and not a biased point to confuse me.

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               Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Hey guys, who is really going to take a neutral stance when they are of one opinion or another? There is always the other side of the story. Often times we are going to have to do our own legwork to separate the gnat sh!t from the pepper.
               
               Remember the PBS News Hour, when they had their discussions on the issues of the day? They always had advocates from both sides to make the case for the point of view and let the viewer decide which of the two had greater merit. I liked this show for this very reason.

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                  promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Morning Joe on MSNBC does the same thing with a Republican and Democrat as hosts.

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                     Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     That's the way I like it.

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                  rhamsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I am not looking for an opinion when I watch these guys. What I do look for is an honest description of the event in view and their corroborated report on the facts. Leave the conjecture up to me.

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   colorfuloneposted 7 years ago

   There is a great realignment of parties happening in this election year.

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      promisemposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. The Libertarian Party is getting 11% support the last time I looked, which could be another spoiler and add to that realignment.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 7 years ago

   He is wise beyond his years.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   Sad part is , is that George Will  has not ever  been a clear conservative  to begin with !    It doesn't bother me a bit to see  these pundits clarify themselves in the political frenzy of late .   Only in times of  close debate do people clearly  stand for their real selves !  I'm glad that he took a step away from  his usual hypocrisy !    I suggest  George give back his yearly salary and  apply to  the Huffington post !

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   Stacie Lposted 7 years ago

   I suspect that Trump ran for office to boost his large ego. I also thought for some time that he is a secret Democrat that wants to ruin the Republican party by running for office.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   Morning Joe ,
   
   What a joe,? Him and Mika  , who watches for Joe's every cue ,are the most biased morning news media of all time !
   
   Do you really watch him ?

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