If some one killed your child/spouse/parent(s) would you seek justice or revenge?
I personaly think an eye for an eye if it was premeditated or while commiting a crime but if it were an accident I would just seek justice...
I think I can probably foresee that most smart people will want revenge, while liberals will call for justice, but it will be interesting to see if I am right...
Your talking about why terrorists happen - right ?
if it were an accident i would seek justice but if it were caused by negligence i would seek punitive damages as well.
but if someone deliverately killed i can't even say the words then i would turn into a killer very quickly and seek revenge.
i'm a good shot!
and i have never understood the belief that you have to forgive the person who killed your loved one before you can move on with your life.
so i guess the survivors of the victims of charles manson and oj simpson would be all happy and serene if they just forgave them.
that makes no sense at all. you can move on with your life without factoring a murdering scumbag into the equation.
You have hit the nail on the head with this - if someone kills for no real reason, like Manson, surely they are insane, like Manson ? Killing them is the same faulty principle as beating a mentally ill child who sh*ts themself.
On the other hand maybe we rate human life too highly and killing dangerous people is economical and sensible way to protect society that includes our children etc ?
And, as I said to the OP, then you would now be a murderer, you would be in jail and your family would have lost another member. Would it then be okay for their family member to seek revenge on you?
I don't know how people can forgive but many of them do and feel they have to to go on with their lives.
Anyway, I've never experienced this and I hope I never have to.
well i could live with that if someone committed the unspeakable. the idea is so horrible to me i can't even type the words. yes, i would spend the rest of my life behind bars if i got to take out the person who snuffed the life of someone i love beyond reason. it probably does make me a murderer too, but, meh...
also, i feel that forgiving the murderer is a betrayal of the person they killed, especially if the person is an innocent child who was tortured and molested. but i think a person could move on from that (maybe) without having to forgive the fiend who brought that upon them, that's the only point i was making.
Why bother to ask the question if you've already made up your mind and will judge others on what they say?
"I think I can probably foresee that most smart people will want revenge, while liberals will call for justice, but it will be interesting to see if I am right..."
Let's see if I understand your position clearly. 'Smart people' are conservatives which makes liberals dumb in your worldview. And the 'smart people' will ignore the law and seek revenge and only dumb people will identify with 'justice'.
Whoever you are, do keep posting. You make a better argument for the liberal position than I ever could.
If someone killed a family member would you seek justice or revenge?
As much as, I would like to believe "justice" over "revenge" to the situation, however, the discerned truth is that "justice" IS "revenge", dressed up to give the little people a false sense of feeling about the loss of a member of their family.
An eye-for-an-eye, is equated to nothing much, because the highest moral ground in a civilized society is to not take the life of anyone at all. Since, we do not live in a civilized society, both do not actually exist other than as an illusion, enforced by those in power.
It is obvious, the world doesn't work on the highest moral ground nor do people of the world truly understand morality, so with that said, I would not seek either.
If I had a child and they were deliberately killed - there could be no justice. See the person locked up or sentenced to death would bring me no solace. My mind would probably churn over thoughts of revenge, but I wouldn't carry it out. Why not? Because I really don't like the thought of being sent to a prison. People who lose their children and loved ones talk about the life sentence and yes if that happened to me I'm sure I would experience such feelings but I would rather struggle with that mental prison than a physical one as well.
So, it is your position that smart people (i.e., conservatives) would choose an eye for an eye, which means they would likely end up in prison, inflicting additional horror and agony upon their families who are already suffering from the death of a loved one, and leaving them to live their lives without their emotional and/or financial support.
Conversely, liberals (not the smart people) would choose justice, which would likely result in the offender spending life in prison, while the liberals (you know, the dumb people) would spend their remaining lives supporting and loving their families and content in the knowledge that the offender is behind bars.
Did I get that right?
I never said libtards are dumb, you liberals love to play the 'victim' game. In your leftist thought, everyone is always oppressing someone or something.
"If Leo Starrs kills the murderer, how will we be able to read the murderer his rights?" The amazing brain of a liberal...
Um, why are you addressing comments to me before I had posted anything on this thread?
I own a .45 caliber pistol with "Justice" engraved on the slide and if you take what really matters to me, I will show you what realy matters. I would want justice served and quickly, not like the death penalty has become in the United States, some twenty years after the crime was committed in the first place. It is only under a perverted legal system that justice is not revenge and a delayed punishment is actually an encouragment to crime.
Had just such a situation. Off duty cop, who was intoxicated, and , admitted to texting his girlfriend, turned left, into a crosswalk, hitting two middle-aged women pedestrians, who had the "right of way" killing one of them. My sister. Justice in this case was thwarted by the very police department that investigated. He can't be a cop anymore, but only served 6 mos, and his driving privileges were suspended for that six mos. Revenge, while a base instinct in this case, would have been preferable in ways, but hot revenge (in anger) is seldom the tastiest. Revenge IS better, served COLD. No threats here, just an observation.
Then I hope you won't mind spending the rest of your life in jail and leaving your family with two less members.
My mother tried her darned best to kill me when I was two and a half years old (I've written a hub about it so won't elaborate here.)
I guess that gives me a unique perspective in this discussion since I am a "survivor".
And personally, I want revenge. I don't talk to her anymore but deep down I'm hoping that one day I can show the world what she's really like - not the person everyone loves because "She gets sick sometimes but doesn't know what she's doing & is a lovely person" when in fact she can lie about anything.
I personally think the only thing that would make me feel better about her evil existance in the world is her death. But I'm sure with the history I have with her and what I know of pop psychology, that won't cure me, either.
I think you might have psychopathic tendencies and should seek medical help before you start roaming the streets with your gun with justice on the side. or maybe you have been watching too many B rated movies ?
I really think that seeking revenge only hurts you. I saw a wonderful documentary on people who have lost loved ones to murder talking about this. They did not want revenge and some actually could forgive the murderer (that I don't think I could do). It was the only way they could go on with their lives.
First, what is with the sab oh comment?
Secondly, If someone killed a loved one of mine I would want revenge, actually doing something to get revenge is another matter entirely.
Recently I read a story of a man who killed a police officer in 1978 and was sentenced to death, there were 3 trials and every jury found him guilty. He was finally executed last month after 32 years, but not before a lengthy discussion on what good his execution would do.
This criminal/murderer was given every bit of justice the law provides for, but the slain officer, well, he is just a footnote to the story!
That is not justice.
Just trying to figure out who you are.
I'm Jim Hunter, I assumed that would have been obvious, guess not.
Why yes I am, I am in the middle of one, a how to hub. Is it a prerequisite to joining this site to write a hub? Do I have a time limit? Are you in charge of making sure hubs are written?
Just curious since the forum is for hubpages writers I look forward to reading it.
I always think I am a peaceful person but if someone harmed someone near and dear to me, I don't think I could be so peaceful. I would like to believe that I would seek justice - I would devote myself to bringing the 'perp' to a non-happy ending but would that be enough? You'd have to be in the situation I suppose before you could actually know how you would feel or what you would do. I pray I am never in the situation of having to deal with it. I know I have a horrific temper if I am pushed far enough and that is what worries me I guess. I would hope that revenge would not be something I would 'lower' myself to but as I say, people do strange things when their hearts are broken.
Some of you don't some do know our story--if interested, read my latest hubs , but I have been in this predicament for the last 3 years.
I have sought justice and none yet has come.
Revenge sounds sweet, but is it really an answer??
Nothing but God can bring Jonathan back, but he lives on in my memory forever.
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