Religious discussions one

The Roman Catholic Church

St Peter basilica, is where the highest leaders of the Christian clergy are; they are supposed to guide the rest of the clergy, but today there are some real problems there and they don't seem to be able to solve them.
St Peter basilica, is where the highest leaders of the Christian clergy are; they are supposed to guide the rest of the clergy, but today there are some real problems there and they don't seem to be able to solve them.

Some religious books and others

The Bible is the most read book in the entire world, it is believed that Moses started to write the Bible, or notes that later on were used to write the Bible. The atheists are able to attack the Bible because there are statements that do not add up.
The Bible is the most read book in the entire world, it is believed that Moses started to write the Bible, or notes that later on were used to write the Bible. The atheists are able to attack the Bible because there are statements that do not add up. | Source
The Koran is for the Muslim what the Bible is for Christian, this book is half as old as the Bible, it definitely derives from the Bible and was written during years of wars at the beginning of  the Islamic religion.
The Koran is for the Muslim what the Bible is for Christian, this book is half as old as the Bible, it definitely derives from the Bible and was written during years of wars at the beginning of the Islamic religion.

Some Religious Discussions

Welcome to our hub (41), religious discussion one.

May God guide and help me to say the right things in these religious writings?

Religious discussions about today religious problems

Dear readers, as we have mentioned in our last article of People life and religion, we believe that religions are being undermined specially when some negative things happen in religious circles; so, here we are going to discuss these happenings. Because of these unfortunate happenings, some people like the atheists make a big fuss about it and attack religions whichever way they can, one of the first target is the Roman Catholic Church, they also attack the Bible, since the Bible is the most important religious book that most people read; they even claim that we would be better off if religions did not exist. We believe that they might have a good reason for doing so, because if we look at the news about what is happening in the world today, we will find that there are some real problems caused by religious people, here we are talking about the terrorist attacks that happen more often these days, therefore we cannot blame the atheists altogether for trying to take advantage from all this negative happenings; but at the same time they are not helping to solve the problem, since with their negative views the problem becomes even bigger.

But what are these negative happenings that we are talking about?

Perhaps, the first and most important problems that we would like to mention here is about pedophilia in the Christian religions, which sometimes it is really disgusting; we have mentioned pedophilia first because it has been there for a very long time, and it continues to be there and nobody seems to do much to make sure that this does not happen any-more; then there are also the Islamic extremists that under pretense kill people in the name of God.

You see, with their religious book the Koran that was written during years of wars when Islam was young, there are some religious laws that can be easily twisted and therefore killing is not a religious sin even when there is no war going on. Now, these two main facts are the most extreme unwanted happenings in the religious world and they should never really happen. Therefore, mankind needs to think hard and hope that one day we would be able to find a way about how to work out these religious problems that exist today, here it may be right to add that perhaps we should start to discuss these religious problems or dilemmas with our most trusted religious friends, in the hope of finding a way out from these dilemmas, as we all know a collective effort is better that just a single person effort, therefore, I think that talking to our friends may be helpful.

Now, having talked in the past to our religious friends already about this, we have to say that some of our friends have some real interesting ideas about religions, which we would like to discuss again and these ideas include also religious books, which they think need to be discussed, even if it is going to be just religious discussions among friends; you see, these discussions in a way would include studying and discussing religions as well. What we would find out from these religious discussions we will write them down, and then we would like to publish our religious discussions very likely here in hub pages, that is when we are ready and have written them down.

Therefore, today first of all I would like to say what I have asked our religious friends, we have asked them to concentrate on and talk or write about religions, we have asked our friends to talk about religious beliefs on all sorts of religions including religious books, you see we need to take a closer look at all religious books and see if they mean what we have been told they mean, after all we have already said that we continually are in search of ourselves in a religious way, because we are studying religions to find our answers; so, let us look together more closely at all sorts of religions and religious problems, in the hope of finding the right answer to the existing religious problems, and then, if we do find an answer, we will suggest to the public what could be done.

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In search of our spiritual self

In these religious writings, we live on this planet that we call earth, with our solar system and other planets in the constellation of the zodiac which is part of the Milky Way galaxy, and we are in search of our spiritual self.
In these religious writings, we live on this planet that we call earth, with our solar system and other planets in the constellation of the zodiac which is part of the Milky Way galaxy, and we are in search of our spiritual self.

We live on this planet earth

This photo is our beautiful planet earth where we live in search of religious reconciliation, and if we want to live in harmony with God, we need constantly to find a way on how to be reconciled also with our fellow man.
This photo is our beautiful planet earth where we live in search of religious reconciliation, and if we want to live in harmony with God, we need constantly to find a way on how to be reconciled also with our fellow man.

In search of our religious ways

Since these religious writings could be said that it is a study of religions and how they serve humanity, which they do and we will talk about one of these recent events before we conclude this article; but now let us continue to look at the problems that we have, so, we believe that in order to understand our position better, we need to look at a larger picture than we normally do, so, we need to put everything together whatever we know about religions, and then start thinking with this wider view, so that we would not be limited in our understanding of the present religious situation, from a single point of view of just one religion.

Therefore, let us first of all start with what we believe and what we know and agree that those things exist, and then we may be able to see better what could follow later on?

What we know now is this, that we live on this planet that we call earth, with our solar system and other planets in the constellation of the zodiac which is part of the Milky Way galaxy, all this we know and most of us agree that these celestial bodies exist, because they have been observed to exist many times, but what we don’t know for sure and what we seem to neither agree or to disagree is this: is there a spiritual force that guides these celestial bodies? Does God really exist and did God create all this? And if not how did this all happen? I suppose that these are the questions that humanity will continue to ask for a very long time.

Of course we know that the Bible says that God created everything, but not all of us accept creation as it is written in the bible, in fact today there are lots of people that believe that what is written in the Bible is not correct; so, they rather believe in the evolution of living things, so here we are going to look for a way that could explain that; at this point of time we could say that perhaps creation and evolution could have worked together; perhaps we should look for a way of how could this have happened and this could be the answer to one of our religious problems, don’t you agree?

Now these questions that we are asking above create a lot more questions like: Can we assume that God and Mother Nature (evolution) could have worked together, and have always worked together, so they are eternal and everything else is eternal? In other words they have always been there, and if that is the case, then we could say that the material seen universe and the unseen spiritual universe could be God, and therefore, everything exists within God.

Or should we assume that the existing energies of the material universe somehow crystallized and so God was formed, so God is part of the whole universe: all these assumptions are not easy to answer, so it would be better for us to try to sort what the people of this world have already accepted, whether they have been partly accepted or completely accepted, and from this present accepted knowledge work our way out how to find or form a better religious order, if we could. So let us study and discuss existing religious books and religious beliefs whichever way we can.

Religious discussions

So, as we have already said in our last article, we may have to discuss all sorts of religious beliefs including religious books and the reasons why they have been written the way they have been written, at the time when they have been written the first time. We know that we are not specialists about religions, but at the same time, we are free thinkers that interpreters what we read openly, so we might have an advantage for this reason. Anyhow, ones we have learned what needs to be learned, we have to ask ourselves about these same religious books and their application at the time when they were written and again we have to ask ourselves, if these religious books were to be written today, would they be written the same way or would they be changed, just because other things have changed? We are saying this because this might be the reason why religions sometimes seem inconsistent, for this reason they fail to satisfy everybody because of the different ways and values that mankind has today, compared to when they were written in the first place, therefore, because things have changed then religions need to change also. If we do all these things then we could be in a better position to understand what could be done.

So the question now arises, how do we do all these changes without upsetting the present religious orders too much? As we all know there are a lot of religious orders, so it is going to be really hard to avoid upsetting them, but if we want to find a new way even this drawback needs to be overcome. It might help to tell them that we are writing this article to find a religious reconciliation for the future benefit of mankind, but even that might not help much, so we have to try hard to avoid any inconvenience that we may cause with this new religious vision.

Perhaps if we get together and discuss the main religious issues in a group, and then write the main issues of the discussion down, in such a way that they are only friendly discussions and views, then perhaps we may be able to avoid upsetting those religious groups that will easily be upset.

As we have already said before in these religious writings our aim is to go in search of a futuristic religious theory that would be able to link all existing religions together, and that is our aim; and we hope to find it by studying and discussing religions with our religious friends and other religious groups? We believe that religions are important, because most people believe in all sorts of religions, because when some religious event take place, people attend those events.

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Crowd attending Religious event

This large crowd has attended at the canonization of these two popes in Rome. Religious people like to attend these religious events, as they create a friendly atmosphere, where people enjoy being part of this event.
This large crowd has attended at the canonization of these two popes in Rome. Religious people like to attend these religious events, as they create a friendly atmosphere, where people enjoy being part of this event. | Source

Important religious event

Anyhow, here we have to say that while we are/were editing this hub an important religious event has just taken place in Rome, so, we would like to say a few things about this event, just to show our readers that religions are still very important today, as it attracts many thousands of people, so, we can say to the atheist groups, just forget about telling us that god does not exist, because God and religions are here to stay, because people need God and religions; you need just to look at this religious event to see that people need God and religions. So let us describe this event briefly.

This is one of the rare religious events that happen in the Roman Catholic Church every now and then, this event is the canonization of two popes and the response of the believers has been enormous, and now let us see how the media has reposted it:

These are some quotes from the media report:

The Canonization Mass was celebrated by Pope Francis (with Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI concelebrating), on Sunday 27 April 2014, in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican in Rome.

Pope John XXIII (25 November 1881 – 3 June 1963) and Pope John Paul II (18 May 1920 – 2 April 2005) reigned as popes of the Roman Catholic Church and the sovereigns of Vatican City (respectively from 1958 to 1963 and 1978 to 2005). (End of quotes)

The crowd of followers was enormous and peaceful just like what any religious event is supposed to be. So, one could easily say that this is the greatest show on earth; and whatever the atheists and other negative groups may say, they are wrong because religions are still helping to get people together in a friendly way, and therefore they are helping humanity.

Having said that now we have to say that in our religious writings, sometimes we may sound very negative too, but we are not doing that to destroy religions, because we are doing that to criticize those things that the negative groups use to run down religions, so there is a great difference; we hope you see what we mean.

Anyhow here under is a link to check out this religious event that we are talking about.

Pope Francis presides over John Paul II, John XXIII historic ...

And now, that we have shown you that even today people follow religions, let us go back to our religious discussions, to see how our religious articles could be accepted

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How to be accepted

Since we would like to write some religious articles, we would like to be accepted from everybody if possible, but it is not going to be easy; so our main concern here is to write something that is acceptable to all religious groups on this planet earth, to do that is not going to be easy, in fact it is the hardest thing to achieve as far as I know, so I intend to look back to the main warnings that we have already written in these religious writings, like that article written for our readers’ peace of mind, where we explain what we are doing.

Anyhow since I am not so sure how to go about now, I will pray our lord God Most High to accept this earthly explanation also as my prayer for help and guidance from God and I am praying thus:

Here I am my Lord God praying for help: I am turning to anyone who is a believer and believes in God and also other religious beliefs and I say to them; please read our religious reconciliation writings fully before you pass judgment. God help me to open the eyes and minds of those readers and let them see that all these religious writings of, Prayers of Reconciliation and reconciliation of the universe, is just an idealistic and futuristic religious theory, which is trying to find a way if that is possible on how to link all existing religions together, we would like to do that in the hope that this new religious theory would be able to bring all existing religious orders together, and in the hope that this theory will be able to stop all those false religious killings in the name of God, for the benefit all mankind.

Now that we have explained in this article some of our intentions and the intention to call on our most trusted religious friends and other religious groups to find a way about how to discuss these religious issues, in the hope of writing down a suggestion that could help humanity solve some religious problems; I believe that we have said enough for the time being, and therefore we will have to leave the other discussions that we will be starting with next hub. Religious discussions two.

May God help us to find the right way how to achieve that?

May God bless us all?

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