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Homicide made easy (Through animal exploitation)

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    Vegan Vandalposted 3 years ago

    On the 5th of April 2013 Jack Huxley murdered his step-grandmother Janis Dundas with FOUR KNIVES AND A CARVING FORK.

    On the 23rd of April 2013 Anti-Islamic white supremacist Pavlo Lapshyn murdered Muslim pensioner Mohammed Saleem with a HUNTING KNIFE.

    On the 21st of May 2013 off duty soldier Lee Rigby was murdered with a MEAT CLEAVER and BUTCHER KNIFE. Two Muslim extremists Michael Adebolago and Michael Adelbowale are charged and on trial for the murder.

    In the greatest act of homicide in human history Adolf Hitler used CATTLE TRUCKS and a CATTLE RAILROAD NETWORK to carry the victims of the holocaust to their end.

    Did you notice any similarity in any of these cases?

    Yes, none of them would have been possible without animal exploitation.

    So this Christmas be extra careful around the drunk relative carving up the turkey.

    Perhaps the most politically digestible justification for veganism is just protection of the human body.

    1. psycheskinner profile image81
      psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Or perhaps homicidal people just use weapons that are at hand rather than whittling new ones out of nearby trees.

    2. Silverspeeder profile image59
      Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      How would I cut my carrots without a knife then?

      If you think the lack of a few cattle trucks would have stopped the Nazi machine murdering millions of innocent people then you are mad and should be kept away from knives.

      1. bBerean profile image61
        bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        You have no way of knowing how many homicidal maniacs have been stopped in their tracks because they only had access to paring knives, or how many evil dictators have had their genocidal plans derailed for lack of a cattle car.

        1. Silverspeeder profile image59
          Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Is there a correlation between meat eaters and homicidal maniacs then? 

          Did Pol Pot have cattle trucks then?

          I thought Stalin just starved people to death!

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        Vegan Vandalposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        If vegetable knives are so good for killing then why didn't Pavlo Lapshyn and Michael Adebolago use them? They could be lethal but they are no where near as dangerous as knives designed for killing animals or cutting up their body parts. A knife designed for cutting through flesh is obviously going to be far more effective for a killer to use than a knife designed for cutting through vegetables.
        A carving knife is a weapon that can be instantly accessed by people of all ages because for most people eating meat is no big deal. If it were heavily restricted or non-existent this would not be the case.
        But even in a society that heavily restricts meat, they would still have to produce lethal tools/weapons that could easily be used to kill any number of humans.
        A blade is a blade and a throat is a throat. The laws of physics indulge no prejudices.
        People obviously do get attacked with vegetable knives, but the rate of lethal consequences is clearly going to be a lot lower. But perhaps it all means we should be all eating the fruit and leaf diet as prescribed for us in Judaism, Christianity and Islam or with just plain common health and safety sense.

        1. psycheskinner profile image81
          psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          " A mob of women in India killed a serial rapist with vegetable knives"

          "It is believed the woman was chopping vegetables on Tuesday when the couple started fighting. Her husband allegedly assaulted her and she retaliated by stabbing him once.”  The man, 47, was rushed to a nearby hospital where he died shortly afterwards."

          "A nurse who stabbed his friend to death with a potato peeler and then tried to flee the country is sentenced to five years in prison"

          Obviously people get attacked with everything.  So why are your anecdotes proof that meat eating caused murder and mine aren't equally proof that vegetarianism is?

        2. Silverspeeder profile image59
          Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Genesis 9.3
          Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

          Deuteronomy 12:15   
          “However, you may slaughter and eat meat within any of your towns, as much as you desire, according to the blessing of the Lord your God that he has given you. The unclean and the clean may eat of it, as of the gazelle and as of the deer.

          I don't think it says you must be a vegan in the bible and therefor the common sense should be in the use of knives not the making of them.

        3. Disappearinghead profile image88
          Disappearingheadposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          So you don't fancy a bacon sandwich then?

          1. Silverspeeder profile image59
            Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Mmmmmm Now there's a good idea for breakfast on a Saturday morning.

            1. bBerean profile image61
              bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I feel better knowing I am not the only one this thread has craving meat.  Makes you want to join P.E.T.A. (People Eating Tasty Animals).

              1. Silverspeeder profile image59
                Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/busi … 3121782121

                Sounds like a good idea for Christmas (even if it is said in jest)

                1. bBerean profile image61
                  bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Talk about long cook times and leftovers for months!

              2. Disappearinghead profile image88
                Disappearingheadposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                We have a monthly market at the university where I work which includes a meat stall selling meat imported from South Africa and Australia. Recently I have enjoyed kangaroo, spring bok, zebra, crocodile, and wood pigeon. Yum. Now where can I get a bottle nose dolphin steak?

                1. bBerean profile image61
                  bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  flipperfilets.com?  jk wink

                  1. Disappearinghead profile image88
                    Disappearingheadposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    lol

        4. EncephaloiDead profile image59
          EncephaloiDeadposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          If we want to invoke laws of physics, there are many other instruments and tools in any given household designed for more effectively than just cutting through vegetables or meat, many are designed to cut through things like wood, metal, concrete and other materials.

          1. Silverspeeder profile image59
            Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Cheese wire

            An acquaintance once cut the top of his finger off with the wire on a cheese board, I think it should be banned immediately........

            What's Vegan cheese made from?

            1. EncephaloiDead profile image59
              EncephaloiDeadposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Unicorn milk?

              1. Silverspeeder profile image59
                Silverspeederposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I thought it would be something more like jojoba milk?

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    What did you have for Thanksgiving?  Do you think fish is okay? After all, in the ocean, all the fish are eating each other. So, if I help myself to some red snapper, it might be okay. Especialy if I don't even need a knife to cut it up. I could just sit on the floor and pull off pieces out of the pan communally with my fellow cavem e   n, uh, family members.

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    Beth37posted 3 years ago

    We should all be eating a lot more bananas. They provide a lot of potassium and they don't require any cutting utensils.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image83
      Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      And Bananas are proof of God! If you hold one in your hand, it is the perfect size, it opens easily, and it is pointed directly toward the face…
      Yes, I am kidding.

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        Beth37posted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Ray Comfort... love that guy.

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    Emile Rposted 3 years ago

    A quick inventory shows we have about ten sharp skinning knives, 8 boning knives, a couple of breaking knives and a band saw. I feel pretty safe, though. Although i do worry about getting my hand caught in the grinder because the girl bagging is absent minded. Come to think of it, she's a vegetarian. I wonder if that means something.

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    Beth37posted 3 years ago

    Im bookmarking this. In next year's forum poll, I'm voting it "weirdest thread."

 
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