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The greatest commandment as per Jesus

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    When asked what the greatest commandment was; Jesus did not mention about belief in him or belief in his prophesized Resurrection, but he simply stated the greatest commandment was that ‘the Lord our God, the Lord is one’.

    1. Kyle Payne profile image59
      Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Jesus Christ actually said the greatest commandment was, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." Matthew 22:37

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    This passage is at the heart of a several-chapters-long discussion of the benefits and blessings of wholeheartedly following the Creator God and not following any Trinity and avoiding the idolatrous practices of the people who were to be driven out of the Promised Land.

    Jesus Himself quoted Deuteronomy:6:4-5[4]Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:[5]

    And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. as the "first and great commandment" in the law (Matthew:22:36-38

    [36]Master, which is the great commandment in the law?[37]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.[38]This is the first and great commandment.;

    Mark:12:28-30[28]And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?[29]And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:[30]And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.).

  3. Greek One profile image79
    Greek Oneposted 5 years ago

    come on Paar, you can't believe that... you know that the Bible was written by sinful scribes.. you can't pick and choose what Jesus said and what he didnt if the source of what he said was from evil scribes, right?

    1. AshtonFirefly profile image81
      AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Uh oh. That's gonna make some people mad yikes
      (hides) I don't wanna see this ugly battle....

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        paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I am a peaceful man

        1. AshtonFirefly profile image81
          AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I didn't mean you. I meant anyone who takes offense at the idea of "evil scribes" writing the Bible...

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            paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            It is a Christian primary belief that only Jesus was innocent; so that makes the scribes sinful and people who could make mistakes; and they did make blunders.

          2. Greek One profile image79
            Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            those are Paar's words, Ashton, not mine...

            Paar thinks the New Testament is full of lies because it was written by sinful scribes and others, and wasnt jotted down by Jesus himself, or dictated to someone to write down, like Mohammed.

            He is thus able to ignore passages of the Bible that don't suit his Muslim faith (such as those that pertain the the divinity of Jesus), or the peculiar perspective of his sect of Islam, which claims Jesus did not die on the cross, but rather got up from the tomb and moved to India.

            Other than that, Paar is Canadian, so he is naturally a nice guy

            1. mischeviousme profile image60
              mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Biblical law is insane, to me.

            2. Kyle Payne profile image59
              Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              The Bible is the inspired word of God. The word inspired in the Bible means "God breathed". Technically the scriptures were spoken to a scribe, God being the speaker and the writers being the scribe. God spoke to them fully and purely through their conscience.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                That is the claim of the writers, of course.  Just as Joseph Smith--the great con man himself--claimed to talk to the angel Moroni.  Smith obviously misspelled macaroni.

              2. mischeviousme profile image60
                mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                The taoist word chi means breath and predates the bible by 1 to 2,000 years. What can you say of that?

                1. Greek One profile image79
                  Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  The American term Chi is short for Chicago... what about that?

                  1. mischeviousme profile image60
                    mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    My familly is from Chicago, but that is beside the point. I have suggested that people read the upanishads, if they don't it is no skin off my back. I only say things that are intended to get people thinking for themselve's, outside of formal and social barriers. Read everything you can and learn as much as possible. Living in one book or by ism, to me, is foolish.

                2. limpetparasite profile image60
                  limpetparasiteposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  mischeviousme, grant me audience and let me answer this question by describing to you what little understanding i have of the 'tao' principle. this will also relate somewhat to paarsurrey's original thread about an existence of only one god.

                  the 'tao' doctrine is indeed old, older than most mainstream religion like christianity and islam, some claim even predates judaism which is more than 2000 years before christianity... but the teachings of the 'tao' is more of a guide to a way of life, it was not a mainstream religion until buddhism and confucianism and later on taoism were founded.

                  a lot of similar success stories we can gleam, oriental emperors trying to carve a lasting legacy, compiles these various collection of traditions and established what is equivalent to a bible, the i-ching in western terms, several centuries later famous philosopher/s which wrote books and triggered the religious taoism movement. artifacts, paintings, writings and other proofs like words of power due to its ancient origins, these are all more of the same, tools that were use to convert men and perhaps use them as instruments to propagate the religion.

                  but the way of the 'tao' or at least the original essence of the tradition does not acknowledge a singular all encompassing all powerful being, what it does teach is for us to recognize that we and everything around us are one with the universe and that we must strive to be in harmony of it and not go against it.

                  in other words, be at peace ^_^

                  limpet

                  1. mischeviousme profile image60
                    mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    As I have been saying since I began typing in the HP. Isms mean absolutely nothing and if I live out of a book, I am missing the bigger picture. When I use the word God, I am only trying to relate to the western mind. I have been of many isms and all they did was forstall an inevitable conclusion. None of it matters. I am one with the universe and this is enlightenment. I have escaped and am awake.

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                paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                It is not correct; the Creator God never spoke to the Gospel writers.

                1. A Troubled Man profile image60
                  A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Or Muhammad.

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    I don't pick and choose; I pick one that is not mythical and is reasonable

    1. Greek One profile image79
      Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Sure you pick and choose, Paar...  you pick and choose based on what text you feel can be fitted into the parameters of your own faith.

      How do you determine which quotes are from Jesus and which ones are mythical... or from sinful scribes, as you describe them?

      Did you personally know the sinful scribes?  Where you there?  You aren't THAT old Paar.

  5. Greek One profile image79
    Greek Oneposted 5 years ago

    the upanishads were written by evil scribes from Chicago

    1. mischeviousme profile image60
      mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Then so was the bible. I see religion as a trap, but it doesn't have to be. We should learn from religion, not live by it.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image94
        Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It is indeed a trap of sorts.  Some are afraid to question the book and are told to be so by church leaders.  Most never question who wrote the Bible nor if they were inspired or merely writing fiction.

        1. mischeviousme profile image60
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Why is it so hard to believe that church leaders are only selling indulgences and feeding on fear?

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    So the greatest commandment which Moses told and Jesus confirmed is belief in ONE the Creator God; and those who believe that Jesus was god or son of god in literal terms are wrong. There is no basis for Trinity.

    1. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Watch how easy this is, Paarsurrey, using your own words...

      So the greatest commandment which Gabriel told and Muhammad confirmed is belief in ONE the Creator God; and those who believe that Muhammad was a prophet in literal terms are wrong. There is no basis for Islam.

      lol

 
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