10 questions for the religiously impaired.
The Bible as with the Koran are stories written by men during times when there was a more primitive appreciation of the World around us. They express a wonderment of what people would have discovered from a then incredibly sophisticated Egyptian civilisation whose stories went on to became fabricated into symbolisms like Chinese whispers. Those who are indoctrinated are brainwashed and do not see any illogic in its changing interpretations. Did you hear about the minister who had his congregation doing all sorts of silly things like leaving their jobs in the wake of the World ending on 21st May. Well he was nowhere to be seen on the 22nd. I suspect the only World that ended was his...
Hi Quillgrapher. I live in much the same way as yourself, and don't impose my view on others that treat me likewise.
The questions asked here are not my questions, I did provide the source though.
I do see much of what is believed by religionists as complete rubbish as you would know, and thought I may catch a few answers that made sense of what looks to me to be nonsense beliefs, and challenge those who would parade myths as fact and reality.Unfortunately sir, that is not logic, that is actually a logical fallacy and one that is often used here. If one were being logical, they would not rely on using fallacies to support their indoctrinated beliefs.
Of course, you're free to base your life on a logical fallacy, no one will ever take that away from you, only logic can.And yet, you did use the word logic in your claim:
"When it comes to logic..."
Those are fine as they relate to anything and everything. However, when one invokes that which obviously violates the physical laws of our world, such as gods, one is not proving a negative, they are showing positively how gods cannot possibly exist in our world without violating those laws or invoking magic, and that is where the logic resides.
Those are your logical fallacies. Science deals in possibilities and probabilities in the absence of proof. And if we turn to my previous point about violating the physical laws of our world, the possibilities and probabilities of gods existing are nil. In fact, there are higher possibilities and probabilities unicorns and dragons exist then there are gods, as those do not violate any laws.
And, with statement no.4, you invoke the possibility that "humans might never be able to explain all the mysteries in the universe" yet you completely ignore the fact that even our current knowledge of the universe prohibits the existence of gods.
Usually, one who is religiously indoctrinated would invoke fallacies as logic when it comes to their religious beliefs. These forums of full of such truisms which they believe are obvious.Whoa! I never agreed those were obvious truisms. And besides, you've changed those two points, here are the actually points that I commented:
"1. If you know of someone who proved God exists, please tell us about it.
2. If you know a way to logically prove a negative, I would welcome the information."
True, no one has ever proved gods exist. No one. Ever.
As to the second point, many have shown gods logically and scientifically could not exist.
I can't see how it is a strawman as it follows logically to those who have shown gods cannot exist scientifically, which is positive evidence that has no requirements to prove gods don't exist. Big difference.
That isn't true at all. There is no law that has ever been repealed once shown to work. Your free to show any that have been repealed. Even Newtons laws are still in effect today despite the fact Einstein came up with relativity. In this case, a couple of points Newton assumed were wrong, which Einstein cleared up that made relativity more precise and accurate. We still use Newtons laws to send probes to Saturn.
How can it have no bearing when it IS the proof you refer, our current knowledge that prohibits gods from existing. I did not ignore your words, I referred to them by showing they were fallacies.
As I already explained, our current knowledge of our world prohibits gods from existing as they would violate those laws, just like any other assertion or hypothesis presented that would violate those laws. What other proof do you require?
A believer who makes the claim that gods could possibly exist must first understand those laws before making that claim and then show how it is possible they could exist without violating those laws.
If I claimed I could flap my arms and fly, I would have to show how that can be achieved without violating the laws of gravity, just like if someone claimed we could travel faster than light would have to show how relativity wouldn't be violated.
Hahahahahahahohohohoho....
Now this one broke me up:
"God definitely doesn't hate amputees. I know several people personally who've seen legs and arms grow out. One man actually held a child's feet out and heard cracking and popping as the shorter foot grew out to the same length as the other."
I gotta get up off the floor! whoooeee!
QwarkOh ye of little faith!
grabs a few cases of soda and plenty of popcorn to watch the fireworks
I have a fresh cup of tea and toast. Settling in for the answers.
I was going to answer them, but then I considered the time needed and found that regular chatting with other people was more valuable with regards to my time. Hence, my last post.
Cool!
I know most of your answers anyway Cags!
We have both been around long enough to draw a few conclusions.I imagine we have a few fundies running through the good book looking for excuses as we speak!
Sure! That will be a first.
Lets be seeing the answers then!
Yes the forum thread title was borrowed from the constant "Are you still beating your wife" style of the religiously impaired.Ah, the old "better to be silent and be thought a fool than open one's mouth and confirm the fact" reasoning! Good advice for the fundies, Bibo!
I just love that "all of the questions have been answered"
I suppose he is speaking only for himself. Some never ask questions because they are afraid of the answers.
I would like to see replies that are honest! That would be a first!
You want honesty from something that is purely based on dishonesty to begin with?
Good luck with that. Looks like you were right, not overloaded with replies from religionists so far!
- You're a bright glow on a dark night cheaptrick!
I got a bit of pleasure out of your post, and that is about as good as it gets here.
Thanks Jeremy. You did pretty well I would think.
I don't agree with the answers but appreciate your good intentions in answering them as honestly as you can. ....."Is it true that paedophiles and child killers can be forgiven and get in to heaven but disbelievers can't?"
Is that an answer?? Perhaps you could clarify.
The preceding bit about sin and blasphemy leads me to think that what you're saying is
o whatever you like, but dont speak ill of the lord, and all will be cool. Yeah, verily, if you just want have a little fun (excuse the pun) at little children's expense, go for it. Just don't exclaim "Omigod" at the wrong moment... is that what you mean?I have a theory about the paedophiles that seem to haunt all religions.
The way they see it is the way they see all abuse.
It's not abuse or paedophilia when a believer does it.
I have 6 beautiful grandchildren and live with 5 of them.
No blokes in funny black dresses get to go anywhere near them!
Hello Deborah
Thanks for commenting
Yes, I know that story very well, and I know the excuses given.
But that does not really answer my question ~ because there is no answer. Basically, my question is rhetorical.
According to the Bible, God ordered a whole tribe to be annihilated ~ specifically children and sucking babies.
It is an atrocity.
This, from a God who supposedly created us all and loves us all.
This story is dreadful ~ setting a bad example.
Saul was encouraged to murder babies, in spite of 'thou shalt not commit murder!'
If he was a man, and he did this today, he would be arrested for war crimes.
It cannot be explained away; it is horrific.
Castlepaloma, I can't get past the sort of hate that is directed at people not only from the bible, but the very thought that anyone could justify killing or harming children is abhorrent!
That the object of worship is such a threat is quite crazy isn't it?
Even a reasonable human being makes the gods of religion look like a monster who is not simply psychologically naive, but a complete sociopathic.
The christian gymnastics performed between OT and NT to deny the OT laws is over the top as well.I have to say, I have never read such an inaccurate unsubstantiated pile of misinformation before in my life!
Where do you get this stuff? Was it bible class?-
Start at the start. Your answer about amputees. Will an ear do?
Did your ear grow back?
Or are you referring to the science that grew an ear on a rodent?
If you want to do this point by point I will be happy to oblige.
Unfortunately I will not accept "It's god's word" or goddunnit, as that would involve the old circular logic of "The bible said it, and that's the word of god" as arguments.OK, now I'm with you!
I would have thought it would be valid in the light of claims made.
By the way, this is not a list I compiled.
I will not argue strongly on this, you have a valid point. I think there are more important criteria.
The problem is, that despite constant "adjustments" in the bible text, the magnitude of which you have not acknowledged, and the thousands of differing opinions as to the meaning of what remains is the common theme amongst believers.
I can go to the Hebrew or Greek if you like, but the problems remain. It is a lot of hearsay to begin with, it is fragmented, and what remains is only a portion of the information from that time and times before, where the biblical god stories were lifted from by a few goat herders.
Religion is a psychological condition that has no easy cure. I beat religion and cancer, it's been a great life.That's OK, I thought I would save you some time is all.
Could you repeat the part of what I said you disagree with, and could you do it without quoting scripture?Seamlessly woven with at least 3 scriptures known but not included? Seamless after being shredded by the church of Rome?
If you were born in Bangladesh you would be quoting the other book just as all religions reflect culture.
Surely you jest!
- Emile Rposted 13 years ago
0 You wrote:
"Morality to an evolutionary naturalist is an irrational leap of faith that goes against evolutionary theory."
No, this is an irrational leap of faith.
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/7 … oor-532172It' has always been easy to establish morals starting with the idea of ownership which dates back to caveman days.
If you stole his food, your neighbour would teach you some morals really quickly.
In these days, some of us have become a little more sophisticated and recognise that doing good things for people and being helpful is very pro survival for body and mind.
Some have gone even further and recognise that giving love helps ourselves to understand love, receive it and live a great life with others because of it. We are all dependant on each other in the modern world, so it makes sense not to abuse relationships with others, or act without morals toward them.
First came the understanding, then the laws to enforce them, not the other way around.
Good morning victims!
I enjoyed the Greeks humour, I usually do.
The serious answers were all wrong though:) I'm aware they had such classes, but did not notice that they are free.
I was very serious as a religionist, and learned the whole darn thing, did a full bible study course in Hebrew Greek and English, joined the worlwide christian businesman's committee, argued with church leaders about doctrine and generally got in to it.
I am seeing arguments from some who don't know their own belief system, they just believe it with "faith" because it is a helluva lot easier than knowing about it and then deciding what they believe.Thank you, that is an authoritative source and worth keeping.
Don't expect many to wish to use it...
I have a friend who may wish to use it, or more precisely a family member who is looking at the clergy as a potential career path.
He seems serious about it.
As an aside, a great friend of mine became a priest. We were in fits of laughter when he told us. We really thought it was one of his jokes! John would make an Australian shearer blush! He could swear like a trooper could our John.
He has been happily ensconced for about 20 years now.
He wanted to help kids, and found a niche in a church owned and run kids home.
I don't hear from him often these days, but we have had some great battles about religious belief in the past.
That would not be a first for me I guess.
- brotheryochananposted 13 years ago0
Another hilarious post earnest
1. Why does god hate amputees?
First you have to assume that god actually hates amputees and that would be wrong. Amputees can be saved like anybody else. As to their missing limbs growing back well we have to blame human nature for that. As Jesus walked, his signs and wonders were to illuminate the Jews, the miracles backed up his messiahship and played a role to convince the Jews that messiah had come. Nicodemus hits the nail on the head when he says, "no man can do the miracles you do unless he come from God". Signs and wonders (miracles) were necessary in Jesus time for different reasons than would happen today. Today we live by faith and curing cancer may not be a tactile a miracle as a growing appendage. If all christians were in perfect health and had limbs growing back all the time, it would be a sign of God, yes, but then people would come to christ for all the wrong reasons. I have a completely circumferencially scarred right leg with lymph edemia, If God were to heal that my faith would be altered in a negative way. Coming to God should never be a reason to be healed.
2. Biblical Law - In Matthew 5:17-18 it states that Jesus wants Christians to follow the old testament word for word.
I don't know what cult you were in but im glad you are out of it.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Jesus while he lived the law was still in effect after he died it was not in effect any longer. Jesus came to fulfill, yes! and that's it. Fulfill. The "all be fulfilled" has not occurred yet and God has promised to keep watch over his book.
3. Eye of a needle - If Jesus said it's difficult, Even impossible, For a rich man to get in to the kingdom of heaven why do so many rich people believe in Jesus?
Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Luke 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Jesus did not say impossible. He said it was hard. If we read further we find this man had his faith in his money not in God.
4. Did god create Cancer and aids
No he did not. Lets go back to the garden shall we.
...cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
Genesis 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
Nature itself was subject to the dismissal of Adam from the garden. What God would have blessed and caused to be fruitful; Adam declined. Paul goes on to say:
Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.
Biblically where God does not bless, is cursed. If people stray from the natural way or Gods chosen way, then the blessings of God are not found there and where God is not actively blessing, bad things happen. There is also some dispute that aids was manufactured in some lab somewhere by the government (america i think) to control population. I think you've heard that story but you do like to blame God for everything, dontcha
5. Bible Revisions
There are lots of translations, some are just stupid ones, others are cleverly devised (NIV) but we today have access to the original scriptures and personally i don't see such a huge digression as you like to purport, but i don't have lots of faith in what you purport either. Get a king james, its a difficult read but it makes ya think.
6. Second Commandment
You keep misquoting.
You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not BOW down to them nor serve them.
the graven images were not to be worshiped. A cross is not in the earth or the water or in heaven above.
7. Jesus Loves? in Revelation 2:23.
Again you have conveniently grabbed one verse and used it out of context. Until you correct this programming malfunction i will not debate these topics with you. Context is so important. Do you remember the lake of fire, the second death? If you read the other scriptures around the one you took out of context the answer is in verse 24. People who are involved in the depths of satan will go to the lake of fire.
8. Allegory - The bible states that the Earth is between 6,000 and 8,000 years old, Where does it say in the bible that it is allegory?
You will have to read Genesis chapter 1 and 2. As to allegory. The bible never states that this is allegory, allegory is only found by allegorical usage.
9. How does it feel knowing that Jesus is responsible for 3 times as many deaths as Hitler?
First off, Jesus is not responsible. Why do we blame Jesus for this war and not the others? We need to ask why is Jesus responsible for the massacres incurred by Genghis khan? and all the others who had an unjesus agenda. Come on. Give this one up already.
10. whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin". Is it true that paedophiles and child killers can be forgiven and get in to heaven but disbelievers can't?
Even people who rant against God and call him a sky fairy can repent and be forgiven in Gods eyes, although the human race may never forgive them. People who are on the right track with God will never commit pedophilia nor kill a child, if they do, their connection with God is poor, a lie or a deception. True faith in God and living for God does no evil but loves all. So just to be clear, God will forgive everyone but they have to actually be a christian in the witness of their lives fruitfulness.
Hope this helped. It was pretty much a no brainer. Not much of a standard for one who studied in one side of the bible and out the other.Would this be one of those appropriate times to sound the buzzer, brother?
Jeremiah 30:17
For I will restore health to you And heal you of your wounds,' says the LORD
Hosea 6:1
Come, and let us return to the LORD; For He has torn, but He will heal us; He has stricken, but He will bind us up.
eremiah 17:14
Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed
Psalm 30:2-3
LORD my God, I cried out to You,And You healed me.
That makes no sense considering there are many believers who do not stray from your god, yet "bad things" happen to them, like cancer. How do you explain that?
We'll make sure to remind you grab verses and use them out of context, too.
Perfect.No, you're just dismissing that out of hand.
Your Jesus did not "give up his life" - the myth goes such that he was crucified by the Romans, in other words, they took his life. That had nothing to do with "sacrificial love".
A person who committed a crime and is sent to the gas chamber does not "give up his life".
You still haven't explained why good, god fearing Christians get cancer? Or, why good, god fearing Christians might get aids from a needle or blood transfusion.
You are simply stating that whenever anything bad happens to good, god fearing Christians, some sin must be involved that you cannot account, but you'll believe it anyways.
I saw only belief in your explanation, no sense was evident at all.
You're joking, right? Do you actually believe nature makes choices as to what will happen to certain people and not others? Hilarious.No, it would appear that is what you believe. But, if that's your rationale, then it isn't any more valid than saying, "God did it." And, if that is the case, that is your one and only argument for everything. Now that you've made your one and only argument, you can bow out.
I think you're trying to make a point there, somewhere. You're trying to say that some people die sooner than later after being crucified, is that right?
Or, is your point such that we are to believe someone was right there, Johnny on the spot, quoting a centurion?
Perhaps, but it didn't explain reality, hence it is full of holes and begs the question.
I did not say that, what I said is that nature does not make choices as to who will get cancer and who will not when compared with the religious belief that sin is a deciding factor in those choices.
Yes, I am part of nature as are you, however we don't decide who will get cancer and who won't, do we? Does any other part of nature make those decisions?
So what? Jeremiah 30:17 states quite emphatically that god did in fact heal and restore his health, which would appear to refute your claim:
"Coming to God should never be a reason to be healed."
Again, so what, it still refutes your claim.
That doesn't matter at all, it still refutes your claim that believers do come to god to get healed. Refuting your claims is as easy as drinking water while swimming in a lake.
But, I do understand why you would say such a thing when your claims are refuted.In other words, if we don't accept YOUR interpretation of context, then it isn't valid.
Yup, exactly as I suspected. YOUR interpretation. Funny how it still does not support your claim, though, because those quotes and more just like them do indeed show that people were coming to god to be miraculously healed, whether you believe they should or shouldn't is irrelevant.Not only that, fair maiden, he does not even acknowledge the fact there are all kinds of threads on these forums alone in which many have asked for prayers to god to miraculously heal there sick kids, spouses, friends, whoever.
I think he has come up with his very own personal religion.
So glad you were entertained.
I must say I enjoyed this whitewash of the hate filled biblical entity.
The bone ignorant superstitious sexist goat herders who wrote this dribble would have been delighted!
It being a no-brainer would have been helpful.Now now don't go gettin all angry because what you thought was a good post turned out to be crap again.
But do keep trying i enjoy showing you the light of context and proper interpretation, you need it.
In view of the Unsuccessfulness of your post i am surprised you racistly insult goat herders. I dare say they could teach you a thing or two.
I be thinkin you be feelin pretty embarassed over this ruined post of yoursYes I know! I have been on the wrong side of your brilliance before!
Formidable! A legend in your own mind.Aren't you fed up with being wiped out every time you make one of your proclamations yet?
Half the people in this forum have had you for breakfast..... it has been more like a feast!of course that is your interpretation
so i will have to believe the opposite is true
and speaking of breakfast, here some reality for ya
I've had you for breakfast so many times i've lost count.
goodbye earnest
- Onusonusposted 13 years ago0
I can't. Apparently I am one of the bad people who got cancer.
My religious friend got cancer, but he must be even worse than me, cos he prayed and died, whereas I am still here.
I do however realise from some of the posts that some religionists would like me to have been the one who died to support their beliefs.
Not all of them think this way, some will say he got "called home" whereas I stay to suffer here in life!
I wonder if their lives have been so bad that they think death is a better alternative?
That would explain a lot.
So Dianne you will hold to those beliefs even if the evidence for it being wrong was stacked to the ceiling even though you seem to be saying you can't answer the questions?
With that amount of biblical knowledge I would not even post, let alone try to defend my beliefs, I would be questioning them if in that position myself.Like yourself and I feel many others, I would love to live on, it is the biggest attraction to belief.
In answer to your question, I was bought up with a very religious mother, but thought from an early age that it was not true.
Indoctrination is hard to shake though, and when I was a young I became a born again christian through being told about religion again by an evangelistic Baptist (Australian variety,) not like the American version)
I was selling children/'s life insurance at the time, and I joined him in a partnership. He hammered on religion all day when we were travelling in his car and in the office.
He was most unusual, in that he and his brother and father had owned a building company that went belly up before completing the houses they were building.
He went without half the floor in his house, while he went and finished all the work they had started on other peoples homes.
My Dad was a big influence on my life, so I had inherited his morals, and admired this guy for his grand gesture.
He also impressed me with how he used his money.
He would add up how much he needed for the month, then get on his worldwide radio and locate charities to give ALL the rest of his money to them.
I was totally in to it! I not only became a christian, I also joined the christian busineman's committee, studied the bible in 3 languages for 2 years and pushed my religion on others.
We were motivated, selling a million dollars worth of insurance and joining the million dollar "round table" which is for the big boys of insurance.
The story is very long and convoluted, but to make it brief. the minister and he absconded with a million bucks they had raised for an old folks home!
I went into my own business and hit the front quickly, making a lot of money in a short time. The money worried me, as I had never been rich before, so I decided to do 6 years of psychotherapy with the best shrink in the country. It was strange! I was supposed to wait 2 years for an appointment, but someone cancelled so I got started straight away as money was no problem by then. I tackled it with as much enthusiasm as I did religion culminating in reading ALL of Jung, Hillman, Von Franz and other post Jungians. I have literally hundreds of books on the subject as I still read the latest info till today.
That is a quick glance at how I overcame my indoctrination.
I just realised I have written a helluva lot. I should have answered the question with brevity.hi diane!
I was at Waikiki a few years back, and got scared spit-less when I saw all the blood in the water from coral cuts the surfers had. I didn't go in!
Science does not prove things without a doubt. Science provides the very best explanation for a phenomenon with supporting evidence.
A religious belief does not have any supporting evidence and does not offer the best explanation. And, when we try to make predictions based on science or a religious belief, the belief fails almost every time.
So, it is the intelligent mind that can decide if it wants to accept the very best explanation based on supporting evidence or the religious belief based entirely on faith.
Agreed. However, in this case we can do neither. Hence, we need to rely on the very best explanations based on supporting evidence as faith does not offer proof of existence, non-existence or an explanation. It offers nothing but faith.
Perhaps, but science has found absolutely nothing that would support the existence of gods. So, if you believe that gods are impossible and science will find that they are possible, what does that say about ones faith and their religious beliefs?
Thank you. I believe there are good people in every walk of life, but some of their beliefs?
I like reality.
I have had to deal with a lot of it in my life.
I spent a lot of years as a people observer in my own businesses, and have needed to be broad minded as I was dealing with the Hells Angels, Coffin cheaters, Road Rebels and many other bike gangs for many years in my motorcycle shops. I also had to deal with the god bothering bikers for god or whatever they called themselves.
Later I had other businesses including an International business consultancy I started in the late seventies and owned the company until recently, which took me to America and South East Asia, where I saw a lot of religion and poverty.
Unlike you, I have to know all the facts.... part of my make-up I suppose.
It is difficult to deal with bike gangs if one has a fixed position, so I change with what I learn.
Nice hearing your story, and getting to know you a little better!Hi Deborah.
You told that very well, and once again I find the information to be accurate.
I don't agree with it, (I hardly need to tell you that.) but that is what was written as I understand it too.
Give your little man an extra cuddle from me.Thank you! I bet he is the apple of his mommy's eye!
I am with my three little one's as I write, so plenty of love around here at the moment!
It is strange that people make assumptions about other people's morals based on their own beliefs about witches etc.
You know me... publish and be dammed, I write a lot of things that get me in to arguments, but I write them anyway.
I would love to read a hub that was controversial enough to bring on a good old fashioned witch woppin! That would amuse me no end.
The definition I have of blasphemy would mean 30,000 or so religions christanity would need to "accept" to avoid blaspheming against one of them
What are the chances of you, in your limited culture choosing the right one and only religion?
This is not aimed at any particular person or belief system.
Here are a few momotheistic Abrahamic ones to consider.
Bábísm
Bahá'í
Bahá'í Faith
Orthodox Bahá'í Faith
Islam
Kharijites
Nation of Islam
Shiite
Alawites
Ismailis
Jafari
Zaiddiyah
Ghulat including
Alevi / Bektashi
Ahl-e Haqq
Yazidi
Druze
Ahmadi
Sunni
Berailvi
Deobandi
Hanafi
Hanbali
Maliki
Mu'tazili
Shafi'i
Wahhabi
Sufism
Naqshbandi
Bektashi
Chishti
Mevlevi
Zikri
Judaism (see also: Jew; Hebrews)
Contemporary divisions
Karaite Judaism
Rabbinic Judaism
Orthodox Judaism
Haredi Judaism
Hassidic Judaism
Modern Orthodox Judaism
Reform Judaism
Conservative Judaism (Masorti)
Reconstructionist Judaism (arguably not a religion)
Humanistic Judaism (arguably not a religion)
Historical Sects
Hasmoneans
Essenes
Pharisees
Sadducees
Zealots
Sicarii
sects that believed Jesus was a prophet
Ebionites
Elkasites
Nazarenes
Crypto-Jews
Marranos
Conversos
Christianity (see List of Christian denominations)
Eastern Orthodoxy
Roman Catholicism
Oriental Orthodoxy (Monophysitism)
Nestorianism
Protestantism
Anabaptists
Anglicans
Baptists
Lutherans
Methodists
Pentecostals
Reformed
Calvinism
Presbyterian
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
Unitarians
Waldensians
Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Community of Christ
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Seventh-day Adventist
Jehovah's Witnesses
Messianic Judaism (not actually Judaism but rather Jewish-rite Christianity)
Samaritans
Mandaeanists
Rastafarians
Black Hebrews
Hebrew Christians
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Dharmic religions
Religions with a concept of Dharma, also major religions of historical India
Hinduism (see also Contemporary Hindu movements)
Agama Hindu Dharma (Javanese Hinduism)
Shaivism
Shaktism
Smartism
Vaishnavism
Gaudiya Vaishnavism
ISKCON (Hare Krishna)
Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mission
Six major schools and movements of Hindu philosophy
Samkhya
Nyaya
Vaisheshika
Purva mimamsa
Vedanta (Uttar Mimamsa)
Advaita Vedanta
Integral Yoga
Yoga
Ashtanga Yoga
Hatha yoga
Siddha Yoga
Tantric Yoga
Ayyavazhi
Shramana Religions
Buddhism (see Schools of Buddhism)
Mahayana
Nikaya schools (which have historically been called Hinayana in the West)
Theravada
Vajrayana (Tantric Buddhism)
Jainism
Digambara
Shvetambara
Panth Religions
Sikhism
Kabir Panth
Dadu Panth
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Other revealed religions
Believers in one God, also called classical monotheism, who follow an Indo-European culture of belief, philosophy and angelology.
Zoroastrianism
Magus (see Three Wise Men)
Gnosticism
Basilidians
Bogomils
Borborites
Cainites
Carpocratians
Cathars
Marcionism (not entirely Gnostic)
Ophites
Valentinians (see Valentinius)
Hinduism (Vaishnavism)
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Indigenous religions
The orally transmitted canon of indigenous peoples, many involving some variant of animism and many defunct
African religions
Akamba mythology
Akan mythology
Ashanti mythology
Bushongo mythology
Bwiti
Dahomey mythology
Dinka mythology
Efik mythology
Egyptian mythology
Ibo mythology
Isoko mythology
Khoikhoi mythology
Lotuko mythology
Lugbara mythology
Pygmy mythology
Tumbuka mythology
Yoruba mythology
Zulu mythology
African religions in the New World
Kumina
Obeah
Santería (Lukumi)
Vodou
Candomblé
Macumba
Umbanda and Quimbanda
Xango
European religions
Anglo-Saxon mythology
Basque mythology
Druidry (Celtic Religion)
Finnish mythology
Germanic paganism
Norse mythology
Greek religion
Greek mythology
Mystery religions
Eleusinian Mysteries
Mithraism
Pythagoreanism
Roman religion
Roman mythology
Slavic mythology
Asian religions
Babylonian and Assyrian religion
Babylonian mythology
Chaldean mythology
Sumerian mythology
Bön (Indigenous Tibetan belief)
Chinese mythology
Shinto
Oomoto
Tengrism (Indigenous Mongol, Tartar & Kazakh belief)
Yezidis (Modified indigenous Kurdish belief)
Native American religions
Abenaki mythology
Aztec mythology
Blackfoot mythology
Chippewa mythology
Creek mythology
Crow mythology
Guarani mythology
Haida mythology
Ho-Chunk mythology
Huron mythology
Inuit mythology
Iroquois mythology
Kwakiutl mythology
Lakota mythology
Lenape mythology
Navaho mythology
Nootka mythology
Pawnee mythology
Salish mythology
Selk'nam religion
Seneca mythology
Tsimshian mythology
Ute mythology
Zuni mythology
Oceanic religions
Australian Aboriginal mythology
Balinese mythology
Maori mythology
Modekngei (Republic of Palau)
Nauruan indigenous religion
Polynesian mythology
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Neopagan or revival religions
Modern religions seeking to recreate indigenous, usually pre-Christian, beliefs and practices
Church of All Worlds
Dievturiba
Germanic Neopaganism also called Ásatrú or Odinism
Hellenic polytheism (modern revivalist forms)
Judeo-Paganism
Maausk
Neo-druidism
Summum
Taarausk
Wicca
Alexandrian Wicca
Dianic Wicca (Feminist Wicca)
Gardnerian Wicca
Faery Wicca
Feri Tradition
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Non-revealed religions
Philosophies not transmitted by a divine prophet
Carvaka
Confucianism
Deism
Fellowship of Reason
Spiritual Humanism
Mohism
Taoism
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Left-Hand Path religions
Faiths teaching that the ultimate goal is separating consciousness from the universe, rather than being absorbed by it
Dragon Rouge
Satanism
LaVeyan Satanism
Church of Satan
Order of Nine Angles
Setianism also spelled Sethianism
Temple of Set
The Storm
Quimbanda
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Syncretic religions
Faiths created from blending earlier religions or that consider all or some religions to be essentially the same
Arès Pilgrim Movement
Cao Dai
Falun Dafa (Falun Gong)
Huna
Konkokyo
Law of One
Manichaeism
Unitarian Universalism
Universal Life Church
Tenrikyo
Theosophy
Seicho-No-Ie
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Entheogen religions
Religions based around divinely inspiring substances
Ayahuasca-based beliefs
Church of the Universe (marijuana sacrament)
Peyotism
THC Ministry
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New religious movements
See List of new religious movements for a list based on other sources
See hereunder for religions founded since 1850 with small followings
Monotheistic NRMs
Direct Worship of the Actual God
Indigenous NRM's
Burkhanism
Cargo cults
Ghost Dance
Native American Church
African Diaspora / Latin American NRM's
Rastafari movement
Umbanda
Candomble
Kardecist Spiritism
Hindu-oriented NRM's
Sai Baba/Sathya Sai Organisation
Hare Krishna
Transcendental Meditation
Sant Mat
Swaminarayan
Vedanta Society
Osho/Rajneeshism
Meher Baba (actually a Zoroastrian)
Oneness University
Aum Shinrikyo (Aleph)
Eckankar
NRM's with Islamic Roots
Subud
Ahmadi
Dances of Universal Peace
Nation of Islam (Black Muslims)
Christian-oriented NRM's
Unification Church
Jesus People
Children of God
People's Temple
Pentecostalism
Holiness movement
Iglesia ni Cristo
Buddhist-oriented NRM's
Soka Gakkai
Won Buddhism
Hoa Hao
Friends of the Western Buddhist Order
Chinese-oriented NRM's
Way of Former Heaven sects, including
I-Kuan Tao ("Way of Unity"),
T'ung-shan She ("Society of Goodness"),
Tien-te Sheng-chiao ("Sacred Religion of Celestial Virtue"),
Daoyuan ("Sanctuary of the Tao"),
Tz'u-hui Tang ("Compassion Society").
Falun Gong ("Dharma Wheel Work," a qigong meditation group)
Japanese-oriented NRM's
Tenrikyo
Seicho no Ie
Johrei (Johrei Movement - Sekai Kyusei Kyo Izunome Kyodan)
Reiki
Oomoto
Soka Gakkai
Aum Shinrikyo (Aleph)
Korean-oriented NRM's
Chondogyo
Jeung San Do
Juche (The personality cult of North Korean leaders)
Unification Church
Vietnamese-oriented NRM's
Caodaism
Hoa Hao
Malaysian-Oriented NRM's
Sky Kingdom
Western Magical / Esoteric Groups
Kardecist Spiritism
Theosophy
Agni Yoga
Anthroposophy
Arcane School
Association for Research and Enlightenment
Church Universal and Triumphant
Golden Dawn
Gurdjieff Work
AMORC
Spiritualism
Eckankar
Thelema
Argenteum Astrum
Fraternitas Saturni
Ordo Templi Orientis
Typhonian Ordo Templi Orientis
Process Church of the Final Judgement
Order of the Solar Temple
White Supremacist Religions
Church of Jesus Christ Christian
World Church of the Creator (Creativity Movement)
Church of the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan [1]
Black Supremacist Religions
Nuwaubianism
Alien-based religions
The Aetherius Society [2]
Raelism
Scientology
Church of Scientology
Free Zone
Urantia, Book of
Universe people
Other NRM's
Antoinism
Breatharianism (Air cult)
Brianism
Elan Vital
Faithists of Kosmon
Virus, The Church of
Tony Samara
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Parody or mock religions
Groups that poke fun at other religions or religion in general
Discordianism
Church of the SubGenius (The cult of Bob Dobbs)
Church of Jesus Christ Elvis
Fictional religions turned Parody
Bokononism
Jedi census movement
Flying Spaghetti Monster (Pastafarianism)
Invisible Pink Unicorn
Kibology
Landover Baptist Church
Church of Emacs
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Fictional religions
See List of fictional religions
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Forms of religion or alternative beliefs
Agnosticism
Animism
Atheism
Ditheism (Dualism)
Henotheism
Monolatrism
Humanism
Secular Humanism
Kathenotheism
Maltheism
Monism
Monotheism
Panentheism
Pantheism
Cosmotheism
Polytheism
Shamanism
Suitheism
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Nonsectarian and trans-sectarian religious movements and practices
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Esotericism
Alchemy
Anthroposophy
Esoteric Christianity
Freemasonry
Gnosticism
Kabbalah
Occultism
Rosicrucian
Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis
Confraternity of the Rose Cross
Rosicrucian Fellowship
Surat Shabda Yoga
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Mysticism
Christian mysticism
Gnosticism
Hindu mysticism
Tantra
Ananda Marga Tantra-Yoga
Yoga
Bhakti
Vedanta
Kabbalah (also part of Judaism)
Kabbalah Centre
Martinism
Merkabah (also part of Judaism)
Meditation
Spirituality
Sufism
Theosophy
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Magic (religion)
Astrology
Divination
Prophecy
Exorcism
Faith healing
Feng Shui
Hoodoo (Rootwork)
New Orleans Voodoo
Magick
Chaos magick
Enochian Magic
Grimoire magick
Goetic magick
Miracles
Pow-wow
Seid (shamanic magic)
Vaastu Shastra (Hinduism)
Witchcraft
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Ritualism
Prayer
Sacrifice
Animal sacrifice
Human sacrifice
Worship
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Organizations promoting Ecumenism
Dances of Universal Peace
Inter-religious Organisations
Source(s):
www.skeptic.com
www.csicop.org
Still prepared to die for yours because you "know" and your god told you you are right?
I don't like your odds. All these people feel as you do!You're right, I didn't make the list as you can see, and in truth there are a few in there that don't belong. A few missing too!
I thought Yoga was for tightening wiggly bits and relaxing myself.Thanks for that! I needed a connection with religion at least!
Put it onto a dartboard, take a shot.
Anything you hit will be no better than all the rest you miss.- I like the methodology DJ!
I am not knowledgeable on Taoism.
Sounds nice.
I will take a look at it.
- It is a major bun fight isn't it?
More torture rape and murder than the taliban handbook!
I reckon we should write a new religious tome, one where believers all get their clocks cleaned for having the wrong religion would be a good place to start.
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