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   logic,commonsenseposted 13 years ago

   The US Senate just passed a bill requiring automakers to put a "black box" in each vehicle produced starting in 2015.  While they are supposed to be the property of the owner, the government will be able to have access  to them.
   Can anyone say "Big Brother"?

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      habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I can! I can say, "big brother"! Pick me! Pick me! See? My hand is up!

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   paradigmsearchposted 13 years ago

   This is not good. George Orwell was right.

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   starme77posted 13 years ago

   uh yeah like a total freakin opposite of the united states constitution of america - it will prob never happen

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   starme77posted 13 years ago

   I believe that would fall under the rights of the people and unreasonable search and sezure

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   starme77posted 13 years ago

   I believe that would fall under the rights of the people and unreasonable search and sezure

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      logic,commonsenseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      But they will get around it by saying it is for your own good, just like dozens of other violations of our rights and liberties.

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         starme77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         thats another good reason why people should stand up for themselves ... seriously the United 'States is only gona get worse if people keep lettin this kinda crap happen

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            logic,commonsenseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Exactly right!

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   Auto Factionposted 13 years ago

   That's such a waste of time and money. It'll take a week for somebody to release either an ECU reflash or hardware mod to bypass the box. I wonder what the purpose of the "black box" is?

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   I think what the box is for should be spelled out before we all condemn it.
   
   The device with this name in airplanes has saved thousands of lives by showing what caused fatal crashes and forcing changes in design.

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   News stories say the box belongs to the car owner and mandating its inclusion in cars was provoked by the people killed by out of control Toyotas (but Toyota never being found culpable due to lack of evidence).  That is, the owner or their heirs could choose to use the data to show death or injury was caused by a defect in the car not driver error.
   
   I am not very outraged by this.

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   mjkearnposted 13 years ago

   Hi Logic,
   For too long the car industry has been unregualated.I am a mechanic and I served my apprenticeship, passed my exams and this is my skilled trade. Anyone can lift a wrench and work on a car and in my opinion this devalues my skill and knowledge. I can understand those who would feel that this is an invasion of privacy but too many lives are lost worldwide unnecessarily and if this "Black Box" could provide data to reduce this situation, surely that is to everyones benefit. I personally can't see a problem with this,
   MJ.

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    logic,commonsenseposted 13 years ago

    MJ,the black box and any other device that is intended to monitor me devalues my intelligence and my ability to think for myself and make my own choices.
    Good luck with your career, good mechanics are a true prize and asset to consumers!

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