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A Hubpages Experiment 2012 - How to Set Traffic, Income and Earnings Goals to Make Money on Hubpages

Updated on January 1, 2013

How to Achieve Your Traffic and Income Goals on Hubpages 2012

The Long and Winding Path to Success on Hubpages
The Long and Winding Path to Success on Hubpages

I started my Hubpages journey on the 24th of April 2011. I have called it a journey because it really has been a voyage to get to where I am now.

I am not claiming to have all the answers. In fact, I am well aware that I don't. But I do know that I have more of an idea of where I am trying to get to now, than I did when I first started writing Hubs.

Now I have a plan and an idea of how to achieve my Hub target, to increase my traffic and income from Hubpages. I have just achieved 10,000 views and the majority of those views came from Hubs written in January 2012.

The Hub philosophy is that you need lots of Hubs to earn a living and you need time. Time for those Hubs to mature and age, so Google sees them as having Authority. Time for you to backlink your Hubs and see them moving up the search engine rankings. I can't backup these theories, as I haven't been writing Hubs long enough to prove these points valid. However, I can prove it's not the only path to success.

In the month of January alone I wrote 10 Hubs and with those 10 Hubs I managed to garner 4,900 views, to take me to the 10,000 level. Bear with me as I descibe the journey I took to achieve my first goal, and some of the other goals I have achieved along the way to making income from Hubpages.

How Much Can You Earn Writing on Hubpages?
How Much Can You Earn Writing on Hubpages?

Why I First Joined Hubpages

I joined Hubpages initially because I was told if you write articles you will earn money. Of course I was skeptical and didn't believe a word of it. I couldn't get my head around the fact that someone would pay me to write about something I wanted to write about. It was irrelevant what the topic was, as long as I wrote it well and it was original content. I could understand someone paying me to write something they wanted an article written about!

Of course, in the beginning I didn't understand that Hubpages makes money through advertising and that I would be able to get a share of that advertising revenue (60%), depending on how much traffic my Hubs received, or how many of the Ads showing on my Hubs were clicked, Amazon sales and even Ebay sales.

I plodded along, lost in the wilderness not really sure what to write about, how to write or if it was even worth my time.

How Many Hub Visitors a Month do You Get?

See results

Everything changed at the end of 2011 and I set myself a New Years Resolution. Instead of wasting my time making the mundane resolutions that I never stick to, such as losing weight or learning a new language, I decided to dedicate myself to learning as much as possible about Hubpages.

At this point, my account was roughly 9 months old and I had approximately 3,900 total views. It was demoralizing and I just hadn't done enough to get a full picture of what works for me on Hubpages. I thought to myself, that if my new efforts don't work then I will have given it a fair chance. If it fails to work then I could throw the towel in and look to try something else.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Turning on Hubpages Ad Program

I Made More With the Hub Pages Ad Program than with Google Adsense
I Made More With the Hub Pages Ad Program than with Google Adsense

At the beginning of 2012, I decided to turn on the Hubpages Ad Program. I had tried to activate it before with no success but saw the signup process had been streamlined and I could actually join.

I already had the Adsense Program activated along with my Amazon Affiliate ID and had earned less than a dollar, in the whole 9 months I'd been a member of Hubpages. I didn't think turning the Ad Program on could do much damage, and I was right. In fact, it made more money than I have ever made writing online before!

Suffering From Writers Block?
Suffering From Writers Block?

Choosing a Topic to Write About

I was stuck as to what to write about and slowly came to the realization that it was a New Year, so I could write about things people would be looking for in 2012. I realize I watch a lot of TV and films, so decided to turn my Hobby into earning potential.

I began writing Hubs about upcoming movies and TV shows. New people to Hubpages are discouraged to write in the entertainment category, as the revenue potential is less per click. However, I didn't know what else to write about and needed to start somewhere. I'm not saying everyone should start there, but I think it is easier and best to start with something you know about.

I wrote some articles and shared them on some Social Bookmarking sites. That's all the backlinking I did.

I chose topics and keywords where the competition and click value were low but the number of people searching for the information was relatively high. I used the Google Keyword tool to check the search volume for my chosen Hubs.

My goal was to get more visitors to my Hubs and see how that effected my revenue. I decided to pursue traffic as I felt it would give me more data to work with.

Choosing topics with higher click values but less traffic or more competition meant I would have less visitors, it would be harder to rank and I didn't know how long I would have to wait to be able to assess my performance.

I didn't want to be demoralized further so I went in search of good traffic topics with little or no competition.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - January

Travelling Faster and Further Along the Windy Path
Travelling Faster and Further Along the Windy Path

The results of my Hubpages experiment 2012 is that I have now achieved my 10, 000 views Accolade. I really didn't think I would achieve it so quickly when I set out on this experiment but I managed it. Before fully committing to writing Hubs, I was getting about 20 views acrosss all my Hubs a day, if I was lucky. Now I am getting around 600 total views a day.

As an added bonus, although a small bonus so far, I have earned more money from Hubpages in the month of January than I ever did in the 9 months preceding January!

My success came from writing about popular topics, with little competition and turning on the Hubpages Ad Program. I made over $8 with the Ad Program and although this does not sound like much, this is 8 times as much as I made from March to December 2011.

An even better bonus has been the ability to connect with other successful writers on HubPages and see what they are doing. Checking out people's writing style, the type of Hubs they are writing about and seeing their passion has really helped steer me in another direction. This has really helped in the layout and planning of my Hubs and has allowed me to learn better ways to use videos and pictures in my articles.

I am planning to updating this Hub monthly with new information as my experiment continues.

Future Plans for Hubpages Domination

Setting Goals and Following Them Through
Setting Goals and Following Them Through

I realize I still have a lot to learn and although I have increased my traffic it may not last long. The topics I have written about are not Evergreen and the traffic will die in time. How long or short will remain to be seen. However, the 10 Hubs I have published have given me a taste for what I can achieve with Hubpages and has given me the motivation required to continue to test and experiment further.

By earning $8 in January, this means I averaged 26 cents a day. My goal is to increase my daily income to at least $1 a day. On the basis that I average around $3 per 1000 views, I know I have to achieve at least 555 views a day to achieve my $1 a day target. (1000 views/$3 = 333 daily views. 333 daily views/0.60 = 555 daily views).

For the sake of this experiment I have assumed the average CPM is $3. I am not saying what my CPM is as I believe that can be construed as a breach of terms and conditions. But for the figures to make sense, I have to provide an arbitrary value. When calculating these figures for your own account it will be most helpful to use your own CPM value, which you can find in your own earnings report.

On The Path to Success?
On The Path to Success?

Although this sounds difficult, I know this is achievable and have already had my first dollar day in February. If I am able to continue at that level of views I should achieve my 100,000 Views Accolade in 6 months. I am aiming to achieve that number of views in less time by writing more Hubs. However, it will also depend on the staying power of my existing and future Hubs and also if they do move up the rankings as they age, and thus gain more traffic.

I am aiming to write at least 2 Hubs a week and perhaps more if I find the time, and the topics to write about. I can clearly see the benefit of writing Hubs regulary now and the difference it can make to the income generated. Now I understand the benefit and rewards of the writing 30 Hubs in 30 days challenge. Although I really don't know if it's something I could manage to do at this point in my writing career.

This is my first Hub about Hubpages, so most of my traffic comes from search engines such as Google. Therefore, rankings and SEO are very important to this experiment.

Longer term, I am hoping to continue with my experiments on Hubpages to see what gets good levels of traffic versus income potential and also what Evergreen topics I can come across that haven't been done to death. I already know that if I stand any chance of succeeding in an Evergreen market I am going to have to find something new, unsaturated and something I can bring something unique to.

In the meantime, my next goal is to continue to increase my traffic levels to the point where I make at least $1 a day.

The next goal after that is to make $3 a day (1000/0.60 = 1666 daily views required). I will continue to write on different topics and niches to see if I can find a niche that works well in terms of traffic and income.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - February

This month I was able to write 11 articles in total. I know this still isn't a lot but it is still meeting my target of 10 a month and allows me time to find out more information on how to make my Hubs more successful.

In February, I continued to mostly do what I did for January. I wrote about more TV shows and the characters. I am happy to see my traffic has continued to climb. Most of this traffic came from search engines and was mainly for the Hubs written in January. I have also noticed that the visitors come in waves. There tends to be more visitors the day that particular TV show airs and at weekends.

February 2012 has been a great month on Hubpages for me. I have made my first payout through the Hubpages Adprogram!! (I am telling you, if you haven't activated it yet then you are missing out on earning with your Hubs. As long as people are actually reading your Hubs from start to finish, as they are doing with mine, then you'll make money using the Adprogram. I'm not going to promise any kind of amount, as it will depend on too many factors such as number of Hubs, topic of Hubs, traffic to said Hub etc. What I will say is that if I can make money with the Hubpages Adprogram you can too.)

So apart from earning my first $50 on Hubspages I have made many more friends and have received more Accolades. I did not go looking to achieve these accolades and they are a great plus along the traffic and earnings journey.

Accolades received in February

1. Lauryallan has answered at least 10 questions

2. Lauryallan is a level IV commenter (this was an upgrade from level III)

3. Lauryallan is popular among readers

4. Lauryallan's Hubs start great discussions

I know you are interested in finding out my actual figures and I can now share them with you.

This month I had over 30, 000 visitors to my Hubs and I made over $50. When you compare that to January's figures I am pleased. That's over 6x's as much traffic and earnings. I am doing something right as the stats are moving in the right direction.

I have achieved the goal I set last month to earn over $1 a day and there were a number of days where I made over $2. Some people might be saying that I achieved this goal too easily but I have read on here that many people struggle to make even $1 a day, and I had never made that consistently before either.

I also believe small achievable steps are better than just having a huge goal and no goal posts in-between. Afterall, my overall goal is to get my 100, 000 views Accolade, increase the number of Hubs I write and also increase my earnings along the way. I am on target to achieve this so lets hope it stays that way.

I am now striving to make $3 a day and this will be a challenge as I will need over 50, 000 visitors a month to have any hope of achieving this goal. Also, I haven't had a single $3 day yet so I don't expect to achieve this goal in March but if I do that would mean $93 earned and I would be ecstatic. If someone told me when I left the Bank that I would be happy earning $90 a month I would have thought they were crazy!!

I realize this is still pocket change, but I am glad to be going in the right direction and to see that earning an income through Hubpages is achievable.

I am really pleased as well because one of my Hubs has had over 10, 000 views a month. Crazy that a third of my traffic comes from 1 Hub article.

At the time of writing this article, Hubpages stats tells us that only 730 Hubs managed to have over 10, 000 views in the last month, and one of my Hubs has joined this group. It will be interesting to see how long it can continue to receive those levels of traffic and if I can find other Hubs to write that could join it.

If you would like to become a writer and make some cash in your free time then please sign up to become a Hubpages Author.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - March

Seriously this is what it was like at times. Not all the mods are like this, but some of them are.
Seriously this is what it was like at times. Not all the mods are like this, but some of them are.

March has been a strange month for me on HubPages. Although I should rightly be thrilled with my results this week I find that I am far from that.

I have achieved my goal of 100,000 views on HubPages and received my accolade. I have even managed, by sheer luck, to have over 100,000 total views in March alone.

Yes I wrote more Hubs but not as many as you might think. I was lucky and chose popular topics and was able to rank for them. I expect the traffic to decrease to many of these Hubs over the next few months.

I have still failed to find Evergreen content.

I managed to reach payout again and then some. According to my earnings report, I have made more on HubPages than ever before at over $200.

However, it's not all rosy this month (I did promise to report the good, the bad and the ugly truth). I have lost some of my accolades and can only guess this is due to my account being on probation, for making a simple error. I have since made efforts to rectify the mistake but am still in probation. Basically, every Hub I write has to be moderated before it can be published. This can take a few days. If I edit any Hub that was already published it is automatically unpublished, because it has to be re-moderated. Again, this takes time as most of my Hubs need updating a little each week as new TV show episodes come out.

I am not blaming the Hub team for this. I understand the rules have to be followed. It was an easy error to make and I explained myself to the HubPages team. However, I have no idea how long probation lasts. However, repeated rule violations can lead to a permanent ban. I really hope that doesn't happen as I do my best to stay within the rules.

Although the goal was to earn $3 a day, clearly from the table below I managed to surpass that. No-one is more astounded than me and I hope this can continue to be the case. My goal for April is to get out of probation (no idea if that's even possible) and aim for $5 per day earnings from HubPages.

I realize this is below what I earned this month, but I really don't know if this months earnings are a fluke. This experiment is about sustained earnings and not a flash in the pan.

Also, since I have achieved my overall goal of 100,000 views in March, I now have to find a new goal to keep me focused. I have noticed from the HubPages success stories that most of them get at least 6,000 visitors a day, on average. My new goal will be traffic related but I will have to think on it.

I expect any improvements from here onwards will be smaller. It was relatively easy in the beginning as my figures were so small. Now with bigger figures it will be harder to continue to improve in such multiples. Also, TV viewership numbers tend to reduce in the summer as people spend more time outside in the sun. It will be interesting to see what effect this has on my Hub traffic and the number of Hubs I am able to produce.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - April

I have managed to reach payout again this month. Although my earnings this month on HP were lower I did actually meet my goal of $5 a day. It was a bit of a struggle while on probation.

Luckily, I am now out of probation and hope it stays that way. People have been asking why I was put into probation and I haven't answered this yet as I am still trying to figure it out. I was initially told it was because I was linking to unrelated products/topics. An example of what I was doing was linking from a new TV show review hub, such as Alcatraz, to other new TV show review hubs I'd also written on HP, such as Touch and Awake etc. I was instantly put on probation, no warning, no discussion nada. As you can imagine, it came as a surprise as a number of experienced and influential hubbers discuss writing in the same niche, so you can link to lots of your content.

I had to write to the HP team for clarification and it's been explained to me that I should only provide links to hubs that are about the same TV show. So for example, Alcatraz TV show review could link to the cast and characters, but not to other TV shows. I find it hard to understand why the links I was doing before are unrelated when in the Related Hubs widget in the sidebar comes up with links to other new TV shows. Ironinc??

On top of that, I have since discovered many experienced hubbers doing exactly what I was doing. After all, that's why I was doing it. I was following the example they set. I have flagged them, but they don't get put into probation and more often than not nothing happens with their accounts. There are many examples out there and it doesn't take long to find them.

Back to the main point - This month my traffic decreased. This could be for a number of reasons. A lot of shows have come to an end, Google had 101 updates this month and now I am unable to interlink my hubs together, which has had a massive impact on my traffic figures. According to my Google Analytics, my bounce rate has soared. It makes no sense to me why HP would want to do this, but they have chosen to. If you want to keep writing on the site, you gotta do what HP tells you or you'll get banned. It's their site and you are just a guest. A guest that pays them with a share of your views... but still only a guest.

And Remember - What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger!

Just goes to show the importance of not keeping all your eggs in the HP basket. I've found the weave to be inconsistent, full of holes and frustrating.

On the plus side, I have my accolades back and managed to keep cool with the HP team, even though it was a struggle at times, especially when you see other HP members clearly flouting the same rules you have been slapped down for. However, you gotta keep your head up, concentrate on your own account and write your articles that are going to get you organic traffic from the search engines. These are all just more obstacles you may be faced with in the future.

Next month, I have to write more hubs and will have to find more topics to write about. New Summer TV shows tend to be less popular as more people spend time out in the sun. I'd expect sports and other summer type activities to be popular. Maybe in May I will try a few recipes. I am aiming to reach 1 million views before the end of 2012 so will need to increase my monthly viewing figures to over 100,000 per month.

Happy hubbing.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - May

More Entertainment Hubs

So far I have mostly earned an income from Entertainment style hubs.

Please read the hub I wrote which is about making money from entertainment hubs, if you are looking for further insight into what I write about to earn some extra money on HubPages.

You'll learn some tips and tricks and how to avoid the 4 common pitfalls many new writers dive head into. FInd out more about other Hubbers who also like to write hubs from the entertainment category and their successes - All of them have been on HubPages longer than me and have really interesting tales to tell.

And for those who can't wait until the end of June to see some of my traffic stats then this hub gives you a view up to the 6th of April 2012!

Ok so I continued writing about New TV shows as I have since the beginning. It seems to be getting harder to rank for these topics now and I'm not exactly sure why. it could be because of the recent Google updates but will monitor the situation and try to figure out if I need to tweak my methods a little.

My traffic seems to hover between 2.5k - 4k daily views. Even when a hub suddenly takes off, it seems that other hub viewing figures shrink so I still end up around the 3k daily views mark. I think the real issue is that I need to write more hubs and I need to write them nearer the beginning of the month if they are to have any kind of impact for that months figures.

Although I wrote the 10 articles I was hoping to I am finding it harder to stay focused on HP. The sun is out and I find myself outside more often enjoying the weather. If I am doing this, I can bet millions of people around the world are spending less time in front of their computers and more time outside.

I also found my CPM seemed to plummet in the middle of the month. At one point I didn't think I'd get close to what I made last month, but then my CPM increased again.

This month I managed to have a slight increase in overall traffic, but really only because there's an extra day in May than in April. This means my income is very slightly higher than last months. I have had approx 350k total views to my HP account. Of course some of those are my views, but it means I am behind on my 1 million views goal for 2012. I will need at least 100,000 monthly views to reach this goal and can't let any Google updates get in the way.

If I plan to increase revenue for June then I really need to write more hubs. I might even try and write a few hubs for the recipe contest that HP are having. Even the lowest prize of $50 would be welcome and would make a huge impact on my HP earnings. It would probably account for over a quarter of my monthly income and is something to get excited about.

I think a lot of people are skeptical that I am actually achieving these traffic levels and as June marks the halfway mark in my journey, I will post a picture of my HP traffic.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - June

First of all, let me say I started off the month with good intentions. I had planned to write as many hubs as possible this month and try and participate in the recipe contest, but events conspired against me.

Firstly, my gran got sick and I had to take her to the hospital. She was there for 3 weeks and I visited often. While visiting in the hospital, I caught a bug which had me in bed and on the toilet for about a week.

Then my internet went down for a few days - broadband provider has been updating their cabling across the whole of the Uk so there's nothing I could do about that.

And to top it all off, my clutch went in my car while driving on the motorway! For those that only have automatics - you can't drive a manual car without a clutch.

So to say I have had a pretty crap month is putting it midly. With that being said, I managed to finish 6 hubs. Doesn't sound like a lot, I know, and is below my monthly target. However, my traffic only went down by about 10,000 views so it hopefully shows that my older hubs are the ones bringing in the traffic.

My hubs over the past 2 months really suck and aren't getting views yet. I think this might be because the TV show season is really boring in the summer months. There are a lot of repeats and not much that people are googling or looking for information about. At least I hoping this is the reason and that traffic will pick up again in the Fall TV season.

If you want more information on the new HP layout changes and how this is probably the cause of your plummeting Google Adsense revenue then read my hub asking Is the New HubPages Layout Killing Your Google Adsense Revenue?

You'll also discover some neat tips and tricks to try and improve your HP income, in light of the new challenges.

However, I did manage to make more money from HP this month. Surprisingly my CPM seems to have increased. This is probably because HP have adjusted where the Google Adsense ad shows up in our hubs now. Before it used to be in the side bar. Now it's one of the ads at the bottom of the page (where far fewer people are likely to click).

So although my Adprogram income has increased, my Google Adsense income is now virtually non existent. I know I don't normally mention my Adsense income as part of this experiment, but it was climbing steadily before the layout changes.

Check out my HP traffic graph below to see how my traffic has progressed in 2012 with a little effort. I also managed to get a Hubber score of 100 for the first time on HP this month, and it seems to be consistently betweek 95 - 100 in the past week or two. You can click the graph below to make it bigger.

This screenshot was taken from my HP profile stats on the 1st of July 2012
This screenshot was taken from my HP profile stats on the 1st of July 2012

I have to admit that I am really happy with my traffic levels and revenue this month, especially when I look at the HP success stories.

The HP success stories have just been updated with their recent traffic graphs, and surprisingly I think I may be getting more traffic than a few of them. I feel bad for them and don't wish for them to fail. On the contrary, their stories are an inspiration and a reason to keep motivated to put the work into HP. I hope their graphs are just showing a seasonal effect (rather than a Panda, Penguin or HP layout changes effect) and that things will improve again for everyone soon.

Would I like to make more money from HP? Of course I would, but I know it's all up to me. I have to write more and consistently. But I really can't complain for effectively being paid $200 for writing 6 hubs this month. (Technically, it's for the hubs I wrote before this month) Will this payment cover the cost of a new clutch? No it won't even cover half the cost, but it's a step in the right direction as my income is starting to increase again.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - July

Ok so my lack luster effort over the last few months has finally hit my account and my traffic declined quite a bit this month. I can't blame anyone else for the reduction in traffic.

On that note, this month I did my minimum 10 hubs as originally set.

My hubs have also had over 500,000 views now too! Although there's no accolade for this milestone, I feel the need to celebrate and try and keep myself motivated on this journey.

My CPM declined again this month. So although the new HP layout seems to have led to an increase in CPM last month, this month it has almost fallen back to previous levels. Unfortunately, my Google Adsense income has drastically fallen off because of the new layout.

Now that I've had a full month of the new HP Adprogram layout, my Google Adsense click rate has reduced by half. However, my adsense income has fallen by almost 2/3rds. Basically, clicks that far down the page occur a lot less and they are also worth less too. I've gone from making an average of $20 a month to a few dollars a month.

Since I've given the new HP layout a shot under the Adprogram for a month, it's now time to try out purely Google Adsense. Yes I know I love stats, but I really won't be able to see the improvements created by the layout unless I switch to purely Adsense.

Will I make more or less money? We'll I'm not really sure. I have a feeling that the Adprogram may be better for me, as my click values seem so low now. However, that could be different if I have the top ads clicked. I guess you'll just have to come back at the end of August to find out....

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - August

So this month has been a little strange for me. I began by changing to monetizing my hubs with only Google. I wanted to test the theory that "no-one clicks ads anymore". I found this to be wrong and in fact had lots of clicks while using the Adsense program. However, it would kinda make my HP Adprogram experiment defunct if I changed solely to Adsense. There were other reasons, which I promise I will write about when I have the time and the inclination to do so. Unfortunately, I really don't know when that will be.

I have learnt a lot on this HP journey, but lately I have felt as if I were going backwards rather than forwards. My traffic either falls or stays constant. The days of rapid growth seem to be behind me.

HP is constantly changing. If we look at all the changes that have occurred just from the beginning of the year, it's astounding. Questions and Answers were introduced so that hubbers could monetize this too. The site had a major layout change, which involved the movement of the direct Google ad to the bottom of the page. There was another Panda update and then Google brought out a new update called Penguin. Now we have this Idle hubs thing, which will now dictate if your hub is allowed to be read by Google to be indexed or not. A lot to take in.

On top of that, I am not alone in my traffic falling. The success stories on HP have been very open and many of them have lost 80% of their traffic and some are reporting they have lost 90% of their HubPages income!

I really don't want to spend time and energy trying to build an income only for it to disappear overnight. This is clearly something that happens at HubPages and there's little to nothing the writers on the site can do about it.

I simply do not have as much time as I used to have and there are other family health issues that I have to take care of.

This month I was on Google Adsense only for the first week. This helps explain why my HP Adprogram income is down from last month. However, traffic and CPM is also down from last month. If this continues then there will be little to no chance of me achieving 1 million views by the end of the year.

Figures that have been added to the table below DO NOT include Adsense traffic for the first week of August nor income made for that week.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - September

Published three hubs this month and have noticed it's taking far longer to get hubs indexed since the introduction of the Idle Hubs thing.

One of the great things about HubPages before was that hubs were indexed really quickly and very well placed in the SERPs, if you knew what you were doing, which I did... However, now that appears to no longer be the case.

I didn't see the point in writing more hubs that were unlikely to get indexed in time or move up the rankings on Google fast enough to get the levels of traffic I would hope for.

Traffic continues to fall, although it is hard to compare to last month as I was on Adsense for a week.

Am really losing faith in HubPages and their changes or tactics.

  1. Success stories have had their graphs removed, but the old text information has been left up. I feel this is misleading, to say the least, as the graphs showed that almost all of the success stories had lost 80% of their traffic and therefore the majority of their passive income. Click here to see the success stories and how the information is outdated. If you want to see the fall in traffic to the success stories subdomains (after HubPages removed the graphs) then please watch the video by Mark Knowles that shows the truth about what's happening on HubPages.
  2. Idle Hub status - Really feel like this is yet another hurdle to jump through in order to get ranked. It's causing unnecessary delays in getting new hubs indexed. I have seen no benefit from the introduction of this in any shape or form. People who write seasonal hubs will probably be affected most.
  3. My CPM has been all over the place this month. I really couldn't tell you why as you can see I only wrote three new hubs and they aren't responsible for the majority of my traffic.
  4. The new Hubpages profile was rolled out sitewide. Again no choice in the matter and this means that referrals are likely to be lower as writers can no longer embed links, for new writers to join, on their profile page.

I am trying each month to keep motivated on this site, but seem to be losing the battle more and more each month. I wish I had better news...

I am beginning to wonder if it would be better to focus 100% on my own sites and just use HubPages as a backlinking or traffic generation tool. I really don't like the feeling of not being in control when it comes to my content on HubPages.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - October

Want to know exactly how many hubs you'd need to meet your Hubpage earning goals?

Wantt to know how many milliions of views or impressions you'd need to make $1000 from Hubpages?

A lot of new hubbers write to me asking these exact questions. Please read my hub called Hubpages Income - The Real Story to find out the answers to these pertinent questions.

Another month has passed and traffic and earnings continue to decline on HubPages. I find this strange, especially when you consider we are fast approaching christmas and advertisers are paying more. How do I know that? Well that's what generally happens each year and also the click values have increased on my own sites. CPM's continue to slide on Hubpages and I am down at least a dollar on my normal CPM rate.

I am at the point where I am making more money from my own sites than I am from HubPages, with a fraction of the views. With this in mind, I have sadly come to the conclusion that making my own sites is easier than writing for HubPages, with greater rewards. I used to think it was the other way around, but that is no longer the case.

1. Hubs are no longer ranking as well as they did at the beginning of the year and prior to that. This could be exasperated by the layout changes, but is definitely affected by the 24 hour pending status on all new hubs.

2. If you write a hub that's not evergreen and is only popular for a short period of time, it's highly likely to end up being de-indexed by HubPages. You'll no longer get those peaks of traffic you used to and were counting on.

3. There is very little control over your content at HubPages. This has slowly but surely been driving me crazy for the past 6 months. Hubs get flagged and the reasons are not explained properly, and sometimes they aren't explained at all. The reason differs from moderator to moderator.

4. When I build my own site I have complete control over the content and get 100% of the ad revenue. All I have to worry about is getting ranked on Google. There are no intermediaries making it impossible for me to jump the hurdles to even get to a decent ranking on Google.

5. I admit sites are not "Google proof". However, when a site gets hit by Google you won't be the only one affected. There will be millions of people discussing the issue and it's fairly easy to find out what you did wrong and fix it. When the same happens on HubPages, answers are extremely difficult to find and there is rarely an official answer from HubPages. It's a guessing game or a trial and error experiment.

6. YOU CAN'T RELY ON HUBPAGES INCOME!! - Please don't make the mistake of relying on your HubPages income. It can disappear on a dime as the success stories have explained. Their traffic has fallen in most cases by over 80% and have been heard to say they have lost over 90% of their income. They are not the only ones, as there are a lot of people hurting on HubPages.

From these 6 points you might be wondering what HubPages is good for? Well it's a great place to put one off articles that don't fit within the scope of any of your sites. It can be a good place to backlink to your sites (although I haven't really done this and they are very strict about it), it's a great way to experiment and learn how to write to get ranked on Google (although I can't say how effective this is going forward) and it's good to meet other like minded people who want to write or learn to make money online etc.

On this note, I am going to concentrate more on own sites and building them into authority sites to make real income. I have been dabbling in building sites and have learnt a lot over the past few months. I want a business where the effort I put in is rewarded appropriately and can be counted on in the future. Unfortunately, I feel this is no longer the case with HubPages.

You'll see in the table below that my traffic is down. However, my CPM has also taken a shark nosedive this month and is down by $1 per thousand impressions, compared to last month. Why? I have no clue.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - November

Wrote 5 new hubs in November, but these won't really get any traffic until later in 2013.

Traffic continues to fall, but I am writing a lot less now on HubPages and have begun experimenting elsewhere.

I am now in the process of trying to set myself up for 2013 and to have a few baskets with income potential, rather than being at the mercy of one platform or site.

The Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012 - December

This is the last installment of my Hubpages Experiment 2012. I haven't written any hubs this month and have used this time as a sort of Hub holiday. This has given me some time to sit back and assess the year.

I thought I'd use this month as a way to summarize the complete year on Hubpages.

I made over $70 this month from the Adprogram. This means I have received the minimum payout for 11 out of 12 months. I didn't reach payout in January which is understandable since I was just starting out. However, I am pleased that I was able to make at least $50 every month from the first month onwards and even made over $200 a few times.

Of course, on top of that I did make some money from Google Adsense. This is no longer the case since the layout changes but that has to be taken into account too. It's hard to say an exact value as I live in the UK and my Adsense account is in UK pounds. I've made approximately £90.

I also made a few sales through Amazon. I made approximately $90 for the year. Not a lot, but more than I expected since I don't actually have any sales lenses. All of my lenses are informational lenses. Most people who read them are not looking to buy, but instead are looking for free information.

Add that to my total HP Adprogram earnings of approximately $1,400 and it's over $1,600. Is this a lot if money for over 90 hubs? How about for 750,000 views? And most of those hubs took hours and sometimes days to put together. I'll leave that up to you as the reader to decide.

However, I have heard most new hubbers struggle to make $1,000 dollars in their first year online. Hubpages is a great place to learn how to rank on Google, how to conduct keyword research successfully and have measurable results. It's great to meet other writers looking to have some supplemental income and has lots of learning resources.

Will I continue writing on HP? I have to say I really don't know. I am waiting to see how things develop here with both my existing articles and the actions taken by the site owners. But the biggest lesson learned from writing on Hubpages in 2012 would have to be "don't put all your eggs in one basket". I plan to diversify in 2013 and have already begun the process.

Would I have done anything differently if I were able to rewind the clock. Yes, I think I would have tested out more niches. I should have done some product review type lenses or focused on a few niches where people buy stuff.

Apart from that, there have been good times and times that weren't as good. However, I got through them. Learned the lessons, sometimes the hard way, and got on with it.

In life there are always going to be hurdles to overcome. If it was really that easy everyone would be doing it and everyone would be wealthy.

Monthly Results of My Hubpages Experiment 2012

Number of Hubs Written
Hub Views
Monthly Earnings
$99.77 (switched to Adsense for a week)
Data is taken from the Earnings Report. Hub views in the table above are the number of views received monthly on HP. It is derived from taking the number of impressions and dividing by 0.6 to calculate the total number of views.

How Would I Achieve $1000 a Month from Hubpages?

Is it Possible to Earn $1000 a Month on Hubpages?

It's not impossible but it' is very difficult. For the majority of hubbers will never reach $500 a month, let alone $1k.
It's not impossible but it' is very difficult. For the majority of hubbers will never reach $500 a month, let alone $1k.

Many people aspire to make $1000 a month from Hubpages and I am finally understanding how it can be achieved. I sat down and did some maths to calculate how to make $1000 in a month following my current strategy. Please bear with me while I do the maths calculations.

$3 per 1,000 views so 1,000/$3 = 333 views to make $1.

333 views x 1,000 = 330,000 monthly views required to make $1,000 a month on Hubpages but since only 60% of the impressions count as personal income 550,000 monthly views are actually required (330,000/0.6 = 555,000 views). This would mean an average of 18,330 daily views (555,000/30 = 18,333 daily views). This is based on the assumption that the CPM stays constant and that no revenue is earned through the Google Adsense, Amazon or the Ebay programs.

Is 18,300+ daily views achievable? I guess I'll have to continue on my journey and see how it goes. It really puts into perspective how far a new Hubber has to go and how little I have really achieved, thus far. However, a long journey is made up of lots of little steps.

If we make the assumption that each individual Hub can earn at least $1 a month, then 1,000 Hubs would be required to achieve the $1,000 a month Hub challenge.

I highly doubt that I will hit that target during this experiment, as I am aiming to only write 2 Hubs a week. Of course, if I am able to write more, I will do so but I can not guarantee that I will achieve that goal so have not taken that into consideration. Unless I am lucky and come across a niche that is highly lucrative and has decent traffic, but I will be realitic and say $1,000 a month is out of my range.

The Importance of CPM

Here's a small table of how the impression requirements would change for differing CPM's.

I have seen a number of questions along these lines and hopefully this will make it clearer. This table should also help you visualize the importance of CPM when you are multiplying it by thousands of views.

If you want to know how many views you'd need daily on your own HP account, the easiest way is to figure out how many views or impressions you'd need to make $34 per day (with the HP Ad Program).

Average CPM
Daily Hub Views Needed

How Long Did it Take You to Earn $1000 a Month From Hubpages?

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12 Month Hubpages Experiment

I am planning to update this Hub as I continue on my Hubpages voyage and report back on what is working, what has failed and my plans for moving forward.

Even if I fail to achieve my goals, at least now I have a plan to follow and a goal to achieve.

Along the way, I am sure I will continue to learn more and improve.

I am using this Hub as a type of Journal to record my HubPages experiment, experiences and things I have learnt on the long road that is Hubpages. Hopefully, it will become a point of reference for other Hubbers who are looking to grow and improve their experience on HubPages.

How to Continue My Hubpages Experiment?

I can see at some point in the future I may run out of ideas of what new things I could try or do to improve my Hub performance. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

If you have some constructive criticism please share your thoughts in the comments below. I hope once you read this Hub you can see I am aiming to learn as much as possible and put it into action. So if you see an obvious error, in what I have said or done or even my in my math skills, then please let me know and I will endeavour to correct my errors as I continue with my Hubpages 2012 experiment, to achieve more traffic and increase earnings.


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    • Sharp Points profile image

      Sharp Points 

      4 years ago from Big Bear Lake, California

      Thank you! I am starting in the entertainment section as well because it is all I really can get myself to write about at the moment. I am hoping with more practice and more experience that I can expand my library.

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      Technology Geek 

      5 years ago from Mumbai,India

      Thank you for this excellent Article.This motivated me to write more Hubs.Thanks a lot.. :)

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      Bhavesh Sondagar 

      5 years ago from India

      quite impressive. I have read your hub from start to end and reading 5th of your hub. keep hubbing.

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      Rebecca Furtado 

      5 years ago from Anderson, Indiana

      Honestly, I have made probably 16 dollars on together on 85 hub up for a year. Maybe readers don 't appreciate my blonde prespective on the world? I like hub pages and I did make some money on Yahoo contributer but the lay sucks and artcles look awful. I need to make 750 dollar a month to make hubing worth it. It takes me a long time to get up the hubs I have and then I have to go back a redo things. Anyway, I am getting better. I don't understand promotion. I post to social networks... Evergreen , lol if it falls off here, I will revamp it and put it on Yahoo Contributer.. it is all a crap sho0t anyway!

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      Marsha Musselman 

      6 years ago from Michigan, USA

      I'll come back and vote on your polls some other time as I've been writing for only six weeks and have my seventh hub published. I have two already going down in traffic and one going up, but I read that summer isn't the best time to expect a high volume of traffic with folks vacationing and such.

      Voted up and useful.

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      Sylvia Ellie 

      6 years ago from Florida

      Loved reading about your experiment. I have a looong way to go. Since I really need to start making an income soon and cannot wait another year, I'm trying to draw traffic to several posting sites and back to my website.

      No luck yet, but I'm very determined to make this work. I find myself overwhelmed with all the info available to make money on line. Between keywords, advertising, bringing traffic, learning how to edit my Wordpress website, and writing for my website and other sites like HP, it causes me to waste too much time because I just don't know where to start.

      Trying to stay focused and putting one foot in front of the other. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Have never really seen what others go thru trying to make a business on line. I'm glad you took the time to share.

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      Tirralan Watkins 

      6 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

      Another excellent and informative hub, Lauryallan. It really helps me to put things in perspective when I read such detailed and honest thoughts as yours . Thank you for your insight.

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      6 years ago from Michigan

      This is a very detailed and informative hub. You have done an excellent job. I had the same experience as you with being moderated and not really getting a clear understanding as to why and seeing others writing about the same thing I was. i appreciate your experiment, myself i let that incident discourage me a little. You have been very encouraging here even though things did take a down turn, your perserverance is encouraging. i plan to read more of your work to learn as much as I can and try to be like you when I grow up :) Keep on hubbing!

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      6 years ago from Sharjah, UAE

      Hi Lauryalan,

      I haven't seen such a detailed information on the Journey of Hub pages. I like the way you calculated to achieve $1000 in a month from Hub Pages.

      Voted up Useful and Shared!

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      @Rebecca Furtado - There's a hub about making your hubs pretty etc - or at least there was... sorry I don't have the link anymore...

      Anyway, if you find it, she shows you how to find free dividers that you can use like I do.

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      Rebecca Furtado 

      6 years ago from Anderson, Indiana

      Very Useful. How did you find the place dividers for your hub. They look greats

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      metzetterberg - If you have read this article and my other HP articles, then you should have a good idea of what works/doesn't work here. If you haven't then I suggest you read them. - will tell you how many views you really need if you are monetizing your hubs using the Adprogram. - If you are using the Adprogram, this lens explains why your adsense income will be almost nothing. - Here's some personal things I have learnt. - will help you avoid topics that aren't going to make you money.

      If you want to make money on HP you have to write. Your profile says you've been here for 3 months but I only see 2 hubs. You can't expect to make money with your first hubs, unless you know what you are doing. Write about things you know about. Test different niches. See what works best for you.

      With the 2 articles I see on your profile I can tell you that writing about the book you have published, unless you are the next Harry Potter author, this isn't going to be popular or get a lot of visitors. It's great for self promotion, but not for traffic, clicks or sales.

      If you want to make money on HP there are a number of methods. High traffic topics will help you earn through the Adprogram. Product reviews will help you sell Amazon/ebay items if you are looking to get sales.

      Either way, you are going to have to write a lot of articles to make any kind of money. Good luck

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      Melanie Zetterberg 

      6 years ago from Covington, Louisiana

      I have done hub pages for a few months now. I can't generate traffic to sites. Some days only 5 some days even less. I am making nothing. I have made nothing with hub pages. I want to start making about $700 per month with hubpages in the next year. I am feeling so frustrated. Please give me tips to make this happen. I see people on here that are saying they are getting traffic in the thousands and I can't even get 10. I don't want to go somewhere else to write. I like it here, but unfortunately I am not having any luck. I have listed on stumbleupon.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Best of luck Alexander and I hope it goes well for you!

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      Alexander Silvius 

      6 years ago from Portland, Oregon

      This is awesome, thank you for journaling your experiences in this one hub, it was very instructive. I feel the same way about my earnings, but have not put in the effort you have, yet I have seen the same decline - but from your efforts, I feel I have solid reasons for my own thoughts on my own hubs. It's too bad HP ruined a good thing, and if I write online again, I will probably focus my efforts on my own blogs.

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      Brian Leekley 

      6 years ago from Bainbridge Island, Washington, USA

      Up, Useful, Interesting, and shared with followers.

      I learned a lot from this hub. Thanks for hubbing about your 2012 experiment.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Thank you Kritau. Yes in the beginning it was fairly easy. However, just because it got tough for me, doesn't mean it will be tough for you. 2012 had a number of it's own obstacles in the form of Google updates and sudden changes made by Hubpages that seemed to affect a large proportion of the site. 2013 might be different or you're topics may not be affected. Or you could try and write your ten articles elsewhere and see what happens. I kept hearing that other writing platform weren't as affected in 2012 as Hubpages was. You could try,,,,, and the list goes on. There are so many other options to explore.

      However, although my Hubpages income declined I learnt so many valuable skills. I learned more skills and built a few sites. These sites weren't anything major and I just started out small because there was so much to learn on top of what I'd learnt at Hubpages. I just chose stuff I was interested in and new lots of people would be interested in too. I got lots of traffic but they were not buyer keywords or looking to buy anything. They were all informational sites, but they got Adsense clicks.

      Again teaching me more lessons.

      Now those sites make many times more than my income here and I now know how to pick better topics/niches to go into. In 2013, the goal is to find more niches that I also enjoy writing about that I can have a newsletter or email sign-up form.

      So like you say, Hubpages can be the beginning to new opportunities or thoughts. I think of it as the first brick on the yellow brick road. You have no idea where it will take you, but as you step on the next brick there's something else to do, see, learn, run screaming from, laugh hysterically at, have an ah-ha moment and so much more.

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      6 years ago from Lancaster

      Hi there! I really loved reading this hub! At the start it was so inspirational, because not long enough I set the same goal you did - to write 10 hubs and see what happens. I was reading the begging of your journey and got so excited with your "8 dollars" success, but more importantly, with the success in terms of achieving your 10 hubs goal. I imagined my self sitting in front of the screen and publishing my tenth hub, with the same feelings you had. It is really greatly inspirational and my motivation is back on track! Thank you!

      However, while reading further, I got a bit disappointed, that your earnings have slowed down and the constant monthly increase is not there. This is a bit disappointing as I again try to think of myself later on and once I become as good as you with the decent amount of hubs in my profile, the figures are a bit demotivating in relation to effort and time put vs money earned.

      Finally, I always try to think in the positive manner and I only encourage myself to not get discouraged by figures, other people thoughts, negative comments - I try to find myself in the mind set - Writing hubs will teach me: writing in general (kinda struggling with the essays at the uni, as my native isn't English), share my knowledge and learn new things, create an online social network around me and my pieces of writing, a blog and a website later on. Who knows, maybe all the connections and the network of people online will help me to develop something even bigger after graduation. The internet is a massive force nowadays, isn't it? Oh, and as I said, the money you get from the Hubs is like a little reward as well, which could cover my rent :))

      Thank you for sharing your experience! Hope this year resolutions will bring you another great success!

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Q -Do you host and build your own sites, as I'm just worried about the cost of all the hosting stuff.

      A - Yes I host my own sites. I just get a shared server. I have used Hostgator's Baby Plan it's perfect for what I have done so far and for beginners. However, the back end can be a little complicated in the beginning and I have heard that Bluehost are supposedly easier and hold your hand more. Bluehost is cheaper too but you have to pay for hosting a year up front. People think this is an issue but if you're serious about this stuff you'll need hosting for the year anyway to really test out sites and give them time to mature and get traffic etc.

      Hosting isn't expensive. If you were to set up a shop on the high street it would cost you thousands of pounds. To buy a domain it can cost approx $10 or less for the year (depends where you buy them and whether it's .com/.net/.info etc). Hosting at Hostgator for a hatchling plan is about $7 a month. At Bluehost it's about $5 a month. So it's the cost of a Starbucks drink I guess a month.

      And with these kinds of plans you can add more domains and the price won;t increase. Once you get a site with lots of traffic and making enough money that it's important it never crashes etc then you'll have to look at other options.

      Q - Or do you use free blog sites instead of an actual webhost, as that is the route I may look at first. Thank you again!

      A - I've used free writing sites to test my markets out in advance since they are free, great at getting ranked quickly and have a lot of information to help you get up the road faster.

      As I said before, don't worry about your own sites etc. Find a niche that works before you lay out money. Otherwise you have no idea if you will make a return.

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      Chantele Cross-Jones 

      6 years ago from Cardiff

      Hello Lauryallen, thansk for that great reply, some really helpful advise, Thank you! I know the conversion rate isn't great $50 works out around £30 at the moment, so would need to hit $75 to pay the car insurance. Sheilas wheels was no better actually. And I don't have a back track record or anything. lol! Next year will be less I think as I turned 25 this year, which usually drops it, living in cardiff doesnt help though and I drive a fairly big car, although its just cheap and old these days! Anyway i will start looking at your suggestions. Do you host and build your own sites, as I'm just worried about the cost of all the hosting stuff. Or do you use free blog sites instead of an actual webhost, as that is the route I may look at first. Thank you again!

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Hey daisydayz, we all start somewhere. Starting at HP is great to learn about traffic and also conversions. You can play around with module layout, pictures, and different topics or niches. You'll find something that's lucrative and then can build a site from there. People say to build a site from scratch first but I really disagree with that. Learn everything else from HP first before you start learning about website building etc. You'll know a lot more by then too and are more likely to be successful.

      I'm in the UK (Scotland) so I know what you mean about trying to reach payout, but once they convert it to pounds it won't cover your insurance. Sorry to disappoint you. I have no idea who you are with insurance wise but try Sheila's Wheels. They cut my car insurance from £450 a year to £250 a year. I was with Direct Line before. I couldn't believe the difference but since you're a girl too you might find the same benefits.

      If I was starting again on the internet I would do the following.

      Write some articles on different topics on different writing platforms. Test layouts, ad placement, product placement etc. Once you know how to get targeted traffic to your articles and some of them make you a decent amount of money, make more articles and interlink them. You won't achieve this until your understand keywords and how to rank for them.

      If this makes a decent sum, try and build a website in this niche (because now you'll have a number of pages that you know people are interested in). Just make sure you rewrite the content so it's not the same as what you have in your articles on the writing sites. Only do this for evergreen content. Otherwise, the trend could be over before it really started and getting your site ranked could take a while.

      Go back to the articles you wrote on that niche and link them to your blog/site. Repeat and find more niches that work well etc. I've done this to a certain extent but it's what I fully plan to do in 2013.

      2012 was experimentation and testing for me. Now I need to knuckle down and follow through on my research. If you do it this way you will find gems that you never thought would work and will make you decent sums of money at little cost. You'll find areas that aren't saturated and you have a chance of making money in.

      I'm not a guru and I don't have all the answers. I just have enough knowledge to try, fail, try again and find something better. That's all you can do. People who try and sell you stuff are 90% bluffers. Either something will be missing, it won't work for you, or it's already saturated/been done to death. You have to find your own path.

      I can't give you the answers, but hopefully you'll see this as the beginning of the path. It's up to you to trek through the jungle and forge your own path from there.

      Good luck! If you need anything else let me know.

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      Chantele Cross-Jones 

      6 years ago from Cardiff

      Well it's a pity hubpages has stopped being quite so lucrative for you. But I figure you can just leave your hubs here arnd occassionally visit or backlink to keep your account looking active and they will continue to earn, even if they are not earning as much as you would like. $1000 a month would be amazing! Maybe after like 5 years of work! Sadly i dont think I will ever get to that point. I would just like to get to the $50 payout every month. if I could work out how to make enough to cover my car insurance bill £45 a month, that would make me happy. I'm not putting in a lot of time, so it is just a steady bit of part time work, that I enjoy. I would love to build websites like you to earn but I just dont have the technical skills at the moment. Good luck iwth your future writing and earnings

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      Bobbi Lynne Johnson 

      6 years ago from Red Deer AB

      This is truly an excellent piece of work, very well detailed and articulated. I certainly find it useful for me at this point since I have just joined the HubPages and am still struggling with some issues, such as not being able to yet get a google Adsense account. Best of luck to you!

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      April Wier 

      6 years ago

      Very interesting read. Thanks for the info.

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      Eric Dierker 

      6 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Interesting to date.

      I like checkout stand novella''s and Plato's republic. and I think I kinda write that way.

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      Zubair Ahmed 

      6 years ago

      Thank you for sharing this. Very useful and informative, I wish I had more time to create more hubs.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Thx Kerry 43, if you really liked this hub with all the stats etc and want a better idea of what you'll have to do to make a decent income on HP then please read my hub on Hubpages Income - The Real Story. You'll find it if you click on my profile. There's also a link to it within this hub...

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      6 years ago

      Wow, excellent numerical detail in this hub, thank you. I am especially grateful to see the CPM table there, I had the worst time finding mine, but just did moments ago, duh lol. I had seen it before but was so focused on writing lately that I had forgotten how to access those stats. I'm actually starting to do better than I had been, now I am writing full time. I ventured off and real life got in the way so my stats are nowhere near where they could have been. Not to worry, tomorrow is a new day :)

      I appreciate the time you put into this hub, splendid effort.



    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Millionaire Tips, I can understand the importance of fresh content, but that shouldn't effect older hubs that were ranking for specific keywords that no-one would be writing about just now. Before, people said aged hubs get the most traffic because they become the authority. Now it's this freshness factor. Too many swings and roundabouts.

      Also on that basis, does that mean that HP is no longer a passive revenue of income if we have to constantly provide new content?

      On top of that... Any new hubs I write don't seem to rank well. This pending/no index/Idle thing is really hitting my new hubs badly.

      And one last note. Some of the sites I have that are making me better income than my HP's are single page sites with one page of information that hasn't been updated in almost a year. So why is HP so different?

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      Shasta Matova 

      6 years ago from USA

      I wonder if your earnings are lower because you didn't write any new hubs. I have read that Google rewards fresh content. I still appreciate all the information you have provided here, and appreciate seeing the updates.

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      Missy Mac 

      6 years ago from Illinois

      Thanks Lauryallan:

      I will keep this in mind when sending a link to my site. Also, this article is helpful: I consider myself as a newbie and always looking for knowledge.

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      6 years ago

      Very useful information Lauryallan.It will really help others .

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      6 years ago from USA

      Thanks for breaking things down. I think we are forever on a learning curve because tech changes so much and Google either takes the wind from us or does something that make our traffic crazy. I have certain hubs that just always gets traffic. it has been a year of growing pains. My girlfriend does PR and she told me that no one gets wealthy here at HP. You have to have your own website and write for other blogs to drive traffic, comment on other blogs and then hope they go to your site and refer others. And of course write great content! Good luck and keep us all updated.

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      [ Danson Wachira ] 

      6 years ago from Nairobi, Kenya

      Hi Lauryallan,

      I like reading other hubbers stats because they contain a lot of useful information. I have learnt a lot by reading your stats and you are really doing very well. I agree with you, starting from August 2012 things have been on nose dive on Hubpages. We just hope there will be a recovery but the question is, when?. Voted up, useful and shared.

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      Sp Greaney 

      6 years ago from Ireland

      It nice to read articles like this. It's always encouraging to see successful people on here.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      @MoneyKattz - There are a number of ways to get traffic to your website from HP. You have to be careful as HP doesn't like to think of themselves as purely a gateway to your own site. Put some really helpful content up for the reader and provide a link to your site (only if it's related to the topic of the hub, otherwise HP can and will ban you).

      That hasn't been the aim of my HP journey, so I'm not an expert at doing this. However, it's easy to find others who are doing this. Take a look at their hubs and see how they are doing it. I'm not suggesting you copy their content, but you can see their layout, their linking methods and how they make it all fit within the article so it doesn't seem strange or uncomfortable.

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      Jairalee Jones 

      6 years ago from Saskatoon

      Thanks for the article! Do you have any advice for how one can use hubpages to get traffix to their website?

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      Missy Mac 

      6 years ago from Illinois

      Thanks for the encouraging article. I am planning to start a blog : Your article provides a great visual on how to earn money on Hubpages.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      no that site was only up for a year and then I dropped it.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Yeah I bought a new domain about a topic. Set up the theme and wrote 3 articles. I then applied for Adsense for that site. I was approved and all it cost was a domain name, a hosting account and some time to set up the site.

      All google wants to see is that you can follow their rules and you know what you're doing. The domain doesn't have to be old for that. If that were the case, Google would lose out on lots of revenue.

      Also, once you have an adsense account, you can use it on any site that meets their rules.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      @doctorulna Yeah I can totally see what you are saying. I think HP is a great place to start out, test a few ideas (if you don't know what you want to make a site about) and then make a site about the hubs/topics/niches that performed well on HP.

      In terms of opening an Adsense account, I found it easier to buy a domain name, set up a Wordpress blog with a free theme and make a few posts or pages and then apply to Google under that domain. My account was approved within 3 days of applying.

      I have no idea where in the world you are based, but if you are in certain parts of the world it can be really difficult to get approved...

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      @givans1980@yahoo Yeah that's quite similar to mine. Best of luck!

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Thank you for all the nice comments.

      @givans1980@yahoo - if you figure out how many DAILY views you'd need on your own account to achieve $1000 a month from HubPages, I think it becomes clearer why so few people are making $1000 a month. If you're not sure how to figure it out, then check out the section near the end of the Hub entitled "The Importance of CPM". The majority of people will need over 10,000 daily views. Most will need even more than that, including myself.

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      6 years ago from India

      Wow....It never crossed my mind that you could do this amount of planning to get more views and thus payouts from Hubpages. Thank you!! Voting up and useful!!

    • nanderson500 profile image


      6 years ago from Seattle, WA

      Very detailed and interesting hub. I like reading articles like this. Very interesting.

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      Bill De Giulio 

      6 years ago from Massachusetts

      Great experiment. I like seeing others stats as a way of judging my progress. I have a ways to go but continue to plug away. Thanks for the update.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Thx kitty. I really doubt I will reach 1 million viewers before christmas, but I have achieved far more than I previously thought was possible.

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      Kitty K. Free 

      6 years ago

      Wow, this is a wonderful experiment with some great info. Thank you so much for sharing. I've learned a lot reading this. Awesome! I hope you reach your goals:).

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Hi chrisin, I would have agreed with you before all the recent changes on HP, but I really don't find that to be the case anymore. There are very few people making 4 figure incomes monthly now on HP, even less than before. The success stories have made it clear that they have lost between 80 and 90 percent of their HP income.

      I have found it difficult to get new hubs indexed and they are no longer ranking as well as they were at the beginning of the year either. It's a much bigger struggle with smaller returns.

      If it really was as simple as double your number of hubs equals double the income then I would do it. However, from my stats and income figures, it's clearly not the case. It's more a case of what you write about, how many people are searching for it and if you can get ranked in the top 3 of Google for it

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      6 years ago

      Hi again Lauryallan,

      I know the numbers from July til now have been discouraging, but you know, it occurred to me that numbers are the solution too! If you want to double your HP income, then try to double your number of hubs.

      You might even MORE than double your income in less than a year if you had 170 hubs. Remember, the folks that are making 4 figures on HP have hundreds of hubs. Some have 1,000 hubs or more, but most have 300-500 at least.

      I know that you know all this already. Just thought I'd offer a reminder. I have to keep reminding myself of these things too, otherwise I'd stop focusing on what I have to do and keep being distracted and discouraged by the current low numbers.

      You can do this! Just gotta keep at it.

      Aloha =)

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Thx Elle and glad to hear you come back to read more.

      I haven't included the definition of CPM because there are lots of hubs out there that explain that. Also, if I start defining things where does it start or end?

      I realize there are lots of people out there who are new to HP, but this was never intended to teach them everything from A to Z. Instead, I tried to explain things in a practical manner so they could figure it out from the stats what's what and how it works in practice, rather than in theory.

      I write this hub as a type of journal for myself and hopefully for others to see that they can write online and earn some money too.

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      6 years ago

      ery interesting. I had commented on here before, but it is ineteresting how as I learn more about hubpages I come back here and learn even more from the Hub. I like that you have the information on CPMs, but I think you should define CPM in the hub (sorry if the definition was there and I missed it). When I first heard of CPM the other day I had to google it b/c I didn't know what it meant! Might make it easier for us newbies if hte definition is there (again sorry if I missed it - I skimmed and read the section specifically on CPMs).

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Thx mizjo. Yeah I do my best to update this hub every month and I hope people come back to read it, but it's hard to tell. But I do know that new people read it everyday too so that's good too to know that others are getting something from it.

      Best of luck with your HP endeavors.

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      6 years ago from New York City, NY

      Whew, that's some article, Lauryallan. That's a lot of maintenance work, sweaty perseverance and hold-your-breath faith. But you held on, and you're succeeding, and if others follow your ethic, they must at least get halfway there.

      Thank you for taking the time to write it for us, and I'm going to share. Voted up, of course, and useful.

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      supreme upbeat 

      6 years ago

      good to know

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      You're welcome Sachin. I wanted to approach this experiment from a newbie perspective, a plan and perhaps some logic. Hopefully I've managed to do that.

      This hub will continue to be updated until the end of the year.

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      Sachin Parikh 

      6 years ago

      It is good to finally read an article about 'how to make money on HP' that is updated consistently and is fairly recent. Also the content is clear and more believable since you are not coming from a writing or SEO background. The article gives me a better idea of what to look forward too in terms of the amount of work needed and the result of that work. Thanks!

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Your welcome Just Russ. The intention isn't to scare people off, but rather to show people that if they want to make an income from HP then they have to actually work for it, as if it were a full time job. In some cases it's not necessary to have 1000 hubs to make $1000 a month. It all comes down to what you write about and how much it's worth per click or CPM wise if you're on the HP Adprogram.

      I think a lot of people come here thinking if they write 5 articles they'll make $100 or something ludacris like that. Hey they might, but it would probably be a combination of luck and skill.

      As my experiment continues, I begin to realize more and more that HP is a great place to start your income journey online. It's probably one of the simplest writing platforms that shares revenue with the writer. However, there are risks when you write for someone else or on their writing platform. Hopefully I've been able to highlight some of those. At least the ones I've experienced and I know others have too. Look at the success stories.

      Once you've mastered the ins and outs of this place, you can then grow and learn how some of the other writing sites work. Or even better, use what's worked for you here to create your own sites. You should understand how to get ranked in search engines, the importance of keyword selection and how to pick profitable niches or keywords. If you can't code that's not a problem as there are lots of free WP themes that are really easy to use or you can outsource what you don't know or don't like doing through fiver etc.

      If you already know how to do all of this then write helpful articles on HP that relate to your sites and get a backlink.

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      Just Russ 

      6 years ago

      I've gotta say this is quite discouraging (yet very well done, so it's not about the writing -- it's about the result). Probably the most hard-hitting eye opener was the poll result showing that 96% haven't yet reached $1000 per month (at the time I checked and posted this, of course). Also the idea of adding 1000 hubs to get 1$ per month per hub and reach $1000 a month is ... well, I don't even wanna think about it. I was looking at this place as a possible extra income stream but now I don't know if I even want to bother (and kinda glad I haven't started). Thanks for the insight and time saved.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      6 years ago

      Thx nightnight. Lol when I started to read your comment I thought you might be the first person to give me some ideas.. but thx for letting me know about the typo.

      Thx StephSev108

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      Stephanie Marie Severson 

      6 years ago from Atlanta, GA

      Thank you for an awesome hub. I love the layout!

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      7 years ago from UK

      Really enjoyed reading this hub. I'm new and wanted to find some encouraging words! Looks like I've got a bit of work to catch up.....

      Also some small constructive criticism:under your 'How to Continue My Hubpages Experiment?' heading you mistyped 'things' in the first paragraph.

      All the best (subscribed)

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Also Eric, if I actually achieve my goal of 1 million views in HP before the end of the year... then I anticipate making approximately $1,800 for the year on HP.

      I would love to see this representation of what you can make on HP. I don't think I've ever seen it.

      Also to make $1,000 a month I'd need approx 18,000 views a day! That's over 500,000 views a month. I can't comment on what the book says you should be able to make. I can only show and explain what I am earning and how I am earning it. If I'm doing something wrong please let me know.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Eric this month was a little strange. Remember that's views in total. You only get paid for 60% of those views... Also I did make more than $100 as the first week I was on adsense only. I didn't include that information in the stats as I never have. Also I am in the UK and my Adsense earnings are in pounds so not straightforward...

      Although this is still about right for HP income. If you look there is a month where I got just under 100,000 visitors and made just over $200. Half that to 50,000 visitors and $100 and it works out to about the same ratios.

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      Eric Dierker 

      7 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      There is something amiss.,, Over 50,000 and you are getting under $100 dollars? I am so new that I remember the representation that much more could be made. This does not make sense.

    • Free2writ3 profile image


      7 years ago from Sharon Hill, Pennsylvania

      WoW!!! super awesome hub. You make really good points. Hope I can utilize some of your tips to be successful here on hubpages.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Thx chrisinhawaii. I am grateful that she's still around. I know a lot of people who never met their grandparents. I am trying to spend as much time with her as possible. I would hate to look back and think I could have been with her and missed out on it for no real reason.

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      7 years ago

      I'm sorry to hear that. My wife just lost her grandmother last week (and my own grandparents have been gone for a very long time, already). I hope that you and your family will be able to have some more years with her before her time comes. Even when it is long, life is still short.

      Hang in there, girl. Aloha.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Hey rajan jolly, good to see you. Glad to see people do remember to come back and read this hub as it's updated every month!

      I'll do my best to keep it up. I just have the feeling that I will be needed elsewhere

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      Rajan Singh Jolly 

      7 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar, INDIA.

      Lauryallan, I'm here again just to check again on the stats. I have had my traffic falling since a few months and then picking up albeit slowly but not to a point, where with the number of hubs I'm publishing every month (about 10), I should have seen almost a doubling of my traffic of my last 6 months.

      Maybe, what Marcus is saying is correct. I've heard others say too that traffic is down in summer and picks up around October.

      I'm just hoping for that to happen and keeping publishing hubs. Keep writing I will say and watch.

      Voted up, useful and interesting.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Hey chrisinhawaii! Yeah it would be pretty exciting to hit that mark of 1 million. I know I should get excited as my original goal was to get 10,000 visitors. Geez that seems so long ago now, but I have to pinch myself and remind myself it was only 6 months ago. Thx for sharing this hub, as that always helps with the visitor count. I hope they benefit from reading the hub too!

      On a different note, I hope to be able to continue to write, but it really depends on what happens with my grans health. They just found a lump in her lung and even after a biopsy they still can't say if it's cancer....

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Thx Marcus Faber. Yeah it can get disheartening, especially when you feel that things are outside your own control... Yeah I know the summer kinda sucks for the topic I am writing about. I have to agree with you there. I really hope the Fall/Winter season kicks up my traffic. Thx for the motivational push, I appreciate it.

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      7 years ago

      I'm rooting for ya, Lauryallan! Thank you so much for letting us take a peak into your corner of HubLand. I'm so glad to see you're still moving forward towards your goals, even after all the setbacks you've faced.

      Looking forward to see how September goes for you. Keep publishing can do it! Think of how good it's going to feel to hit that 1,000,000 mark! =) I'm getting excited just thinking about it!

      Voted up and will share every way I can! Aloha!

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      Marcus Faber 

      7 years ago from London, UK

      I hope you don't get too downhearted, it's perfectly normal for website traffic to fall in the summer months and I believe August is particularly bad, you should start to see your traffic pick up again in September, October. You generally don't get month on month increases in website traffic, it's better to look at the year on year numbers, the traffic you've been getting is really impressive and you obviously create hubs that people want to read.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Iw what you mean ElleBee. There are lots of hubs out there that say a lot but explain nothing. I really wanted to do the opposite and try and explain what I have found has or is working for me. There's no point being all cloak and dagger. That doesn't help anyone!

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      7 years ago

      Super interesting! I like how you broke down all of your points and really explained. Talked about how to set goals, where the math came in etc. That is a lot more useful than some other articles I've seen, since this really allows me to tailor the math to my current earnings levels etc. in order to set goals specifically for myself and my circumstance.

    • Doodlehead profile image


      7 years ago from Northern California

      Very motivatonal hub. I am inspired and appreciate solid numbers.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      TycoonSam - Yeah I would love to make $1k a month writing about TV shows on HP, but alas I am a far cry from that.

      I will be ecstatic if I manage to pull off a million views in 2012. I think at this point I'm more likely to fall shy of the goal, but I've learned a few things along the way and I have more of an idea of what I'd have to do next year to hopefully increase my views further.

      It has been trying at times but the journey has been fun too. Best of luck on your voyage...

    • TycoonSam profile image


      7 years ago from Washington, MI

      Excellent Hub. Very informative and well written. $1K per month is a great goal to shoot for. I have a long journey ahead of me...But it will be a fun one!

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Thx Erikdierker. Lol yeah thinking back it was a bad month personally, but not so bad on HP.

      I'm glad I could help and I hope I'm able to continue on this journey in style....

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      Eric Dierker 

      7 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Very nicely done. I learned alot. But wait, your granny is in hospital for 3 weeks, your on the toilet (that is what we call it in the states) for a week, you have to deal with and fix a bad clutch (us old guys know how they work) And your just off probation and you still have a good month. I surely do like your style.

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      Rajan Singh Jolly 

      7 years ago from From Mumbai, presently in Jalandhar, INDIA.

      Very informative hub, learned quite a lot. It has been my experience too that current events, shows, festivals and similar hubs provide an instant and high traffic without much backlinking. But it drops down soon so one must be writing regularly to maintain the high traffic inflow.

      Really interesting stats and a very well laid out monthly stats.

      Thanks for sharing.

      Voted up, useful and interesting.

    • AnnaCia profile image


      7 years ago

      Hi. Thank you for this interesting information. Ill try some of your ideas.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      I agree that $1k per month is achievable, but I'd have to write constantly following this method. Also, I'd also have to write a lot more often that what I currently write.

      For me to make $1k per month I'd need an average of approx 15k views a day. Right now I only get 2k views (it keeps falling) so that's quite a gap....

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      Umer Farooq 

      7 years ago from Birmingham, United Kingdom

      A wonderfully engaging hub. I don't believe I have read all this from start to finish. Discovered many new things which I was looking for. I am of to a journey and a voyage on hubpages as well. 1000 dollar seems really achievable after reading your hub. Thanks for writing this great hub. It is quite motivating.

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      7 years ago

      Ah thank you very much

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Turkic - there's so much to that one question you have asked....

      I think I have covered the main aspects in this hub. The more times you read it the more times you'll understand what I have done and how I have managed to achieve it.

      I am not telling you to do it the same way and even if you did, it may not work. However, if you take the basic fundamental principles you can adapt it to what you know and can write about.

      Also, I don't do backlinking. For the most part it's time consuming and Google has so many penalities for it that I really don't bother.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Hey Norman,

      Great questions and I'll do my best to answer them.

      KW tools - have only ever used the google keyword tool.

      I generally only tweak my articles after with more information or to change from future tense to past tense etc. Apart from that, I sometimes add the amazon products that are now available etc.

      My SERP position varies. Sometimes I am number 1-3 and others I am further down the page. I write the hub and see what happens. Google dictates where I'll be listed, I just do my best to pick topics that don't have high competition.

      I tend to do very little promotion or backlinking. I have found the HP platform is enough to get ranked. Most of my traffic comes from Google.

      I focus on traffic. For the HP Adprogram you are paid per 1000 views. I concentrated on getting as much data as possible in as quick a time as possible. I went for popular topics with little or no competition. I aimed to get ranked in Google and assess from there. I have never tried hubs that are geared towards people buying stuff. I was purely working on a traffic model.

      Good luck Norman and I hope you come back and share with us lessons you learn.

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      7 years ago

      Great Hub, but I am sad that I only have 14 views a day, I don't know how Seo and back links work. If you could help where to start I will appreciate a lot.

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      Norman Stein 

      7 years ago from Queens, NY

      Hi Lauryallan,

      I enjoyed reading about your experience here, and I applaud you on your success. I'm an old ehow veteran and have been writing articles online off and on for years now on various sites. I have a few questions for you, and would like your unique perspective as a writer just starting out and gearing up on HB.

      What keyword tools (if any) do you use?

      Are you going back and tweaking your articles after publishing?

      Have you noticed if you can somewhat reliably predict your SERP placement considering the inherent HB authority?

      Are you promoting your hubs personally or just relying on the above?

      I'm really impressed with your number of views per hub, are you concentrating on keywords that are more informational rather than with a high CI value? (consumer intent, or intent to buy)

      Sorry for the long winded and very nosy comment, but your story intrigues me. I'll be publishing tons of hubs in the coming weeks and am wondering where I should be concentrating my efforts.

      Thank you for posting this up, a good inspirational read, I hope you have more success in the coming months.


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      7 years ago from Cindee's Land

      this was such a detailed hub. I love it! thank you so much! it's very inspirational and motivating. I joined 2 weeks ago and im at 800 reads. I'm going to try out a few experiments to see what brings in readers and what not. =) keep in touch and keep me updated. this was an awesome hub! :D

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      Ruchi Urvashi 

      7 years ago from Singapore

      Very informative hub. I got good tips on how to go further in my journey of online writing on hubpages.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Thx PP. The basis to my success is to write about things that are popular but with very little competition. There are so many things you could write about that fit into that category. Yes my click values are low, but I aim to make up for that with more traffic.

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      Sharilee Swaity 

      7 years ago from Canada

      Laury, this is awesome! You have really achieved excellent numbers here. I just passed 100,000 views two months ago, and I've been on here for a year and a half.

      I honestly want to study what you are doing, because it obviously working very well. Thanks for sharing your success and all the best to you.

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      Skyler DeCristoforo 

      7 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Fantastic story of success. Its very motivational and inspiring to hear of your triumphs here on hubpages. One day i too hope to achieve great goals as you have. It goes to show that time and hard work do pay off. Thanks for sharing.

    • sroberts9 profile image


      7 years ago from Northern Virginia

      I am about where you are now in terms of numbers and I too have calculated my earnings - you are correct in your #s and your strategy focusing on the entertainment industry has been good to you. I am hopeful that I can reach that $1,000 per month goal too. I will keep checking on your progress. Great Hub article. I appreciate your honesty - when things were not going so well here for you due to probation - but, I admire your persistance to keep it going through. Great focus and determination is necessary with a little added creativity will make it work eventually - Good luck to you.

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Thx Victoria Lynn.

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      Victoria Lynn 

      7 years ago from Arkansas, USA

      What an interesting journey! I enjoyed reading your progress!

    • Lauryallan profile imageAUTHOR


      7 years ago

      Thank you carol7777. I just hope I can help others so they can get to success faster and not lose their way.

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      carol stanley 

      7 years ago from Arizona

      This is by far one of the best hubs on success at HubPages. You are very generous to share this with all of us hubbers. You included everything we need to find our way. Thanks again. Obviously voted up and everything else.


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