Zzzzz? Will links hurt my other hubs?

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   Reality Bytesposted 12 years ago

   I just cannot get the Google gods to keep my latest hub indexed, that is a problem all on its own. (It is listed nicely on Yahoo and Bing)
   
   The hub was written to be used as a reference from already existing hubs.  I planned on linking several hubs to this hub and link to several hubs out of this hub. 
   
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   Seeing as Google, (for whatever reason) does not even show the hub while searching for the exact title, would there be even a remote chance that the installation of links will have a negative effect on already successful, indexed, and published hubs? 
   
   20 days ago, I posted this hub for the sole purpose of offering additional information to my readers.

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      Reality Bytesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      anyone?

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         paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Good news. Your hub is now alive, well, and indexed.

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            Reality Bytesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Strange, I still cannot find it when searching the exact title or grabbing part of the text.   I have manually indexed it twice using WMT, I see it indexed, than within a couple of days it disappears again.  I would like to know if links to suspiciously indexed hubs could have any chance of dragging down the ranks of hubs in good standing?
            
            
            I want to link this hub from at least ten already published hubs, the main reason this article was written, to use as a reference from my already existing stuff.  I am leery of inserting the links if there is even a small chance that it would affect the rankings?
            
            Thanks for your interest.. 

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               paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I wonder if your browser/google is blocking certain results to you because of a past erroneous setting...
               
               As to your question, my opinion would just be speculation. However, that's never stopped me before... If it was me, I'd put in the 10 links to the new hub. And blast social media with the link as well. Take a walk on the wild side...

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      HowardBThinameposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't even know how to tell if a Hub is indexed or not.

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         truebluewriterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         type this on google "site:yourpageurldhere.com" Just copy paste your URL after "site:". Your page should be the only one that shows up if it's an actual page/post. If it's a root domain name that you place there then it'll show you all indexed pages on the site.

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            Healthy Pursuitsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you for the info. I just used it. I had unpublished zzzz hubs until I could get to them. My unpublished hubs are still showing in Google when I use the site: command, so they must still be indexed! My views are going down, down, down, until they are less than half of what they were a week ago, even though I've written 3 new hubs since then. Any suggestions anyone? (Reality Bites: I don't want to hijack this thread if this isn't relevant here, so I could start a new thread if you want.)

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               IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I should imagine almost everyone is suffering a significant loss of traffic just now, seeing as it looks like the site has just been slapped by yet another Google update.
               
               I also do not think it necessary to delete or remove links to Zzzz hubs.
               
               My own preliminary analysis is showing that it is other people's poor hubs that have hurt ours, and the loss of those bad links has re-awakened long-sleeping hubs.
               
               If your own hubs are of what you consider to be of good quality, then link them all together, sleeping or not.
               
               You may not have been aware that some or many of your existing hubs were linked through this site to some of the total crap that you must have seen in the Hopper.
               
               Even if that new stuff got pulled, there is plenty older substandard stuff that you may have been linked to.
               
               That is why Zzzz hubs got introduced.

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               truebluewriterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Personally I don't unpublished hubs unless I think they're spammy or unless I want to transfer them somewhere else. With all the algo updates going on, my posts/pages/blogs have been cycling to almost no traffic to back to normal. So you never know if a post of yours might just bounce back or not. And I don't really think unpublishing it helps you SEO wise.
               
               you might wanna try internal linking like IzzyM said. I have hubs that only ever get traffic from my other hubs because they're linked together.

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                  Healthy Pursuitsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you, IzzyM and truebluewriter. I'll try linking them. I really don't like the way Hub Pages throws my hubs together with others. I was thinking about removing tags except those that would bring up exactly what I want, but that seems very labor-intensive for the possible returns.

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                     IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Removing tags is certainly one way of making sure that the hubs linked to yours are of a quality you are happy with. But the really poor hubs that have brought the site down are most likely sleeping now, as most of the those hubs were thrown up by people who never came back to the site.
                     Assuming they never look back in and add a photo or something to wake them up, all should be well.
                     
                     Interlink your hubs using intext links, as they are reputed to be the most powerful. That is quite a lot of work, but unless you start deleting hubs you have linked, you shouldn't have to do anything else.
                     
                     No matter what is causing you subdomain's traffic to fall, it won't be because of interlinking to your own, related hubs. This strengthens sites and subs so that when traffic does return, your traffic should go higher than ever.

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      diyomarpandanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

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         truebluewriterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Cant help it really if you get a ZZ hub. WIth all the algo updates happening everything become unpredictable. My main blog has actually fallen to 40++ a month from 350-400 range twice this month already. It recovered the first time after two weeks and just feel a couple of days ago again.
         
         Also if you want to fix your poetry hubs zzz just promote it. If it's a poetry hub you're never really going to get traffic (or at least very unlikely) from google. Maybe someone will stumble upon it from time to time but the quickest and most proactive way to remove the zzz is just share it on twitter on FB. That should get you some instant hits.

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