Hubscore - Does it get automatically adjusted?

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   shazwellynposted 15 years ago

   I was reading darkside's hub on hubscores.
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Hubscore
   
   It states the following:
   
   Low HubScore Consequences
   When the Hubber score (AuthorScore) is below 75 all links in all hubs by the author will have nofollow applied (which means no, or very little benefit in search engine rankings).
   
   It also states:
   
   Linking too many times to the same site
   1. One link or two to domains that have been heavily "abused" by other Hubbers (like tinyurl.com), in the context of plenty of other "good" links, will not have an effect. However, repeatedly using tinyurl across your Hubs, again and again, will.
   
   
   3. You are allowed to publish Hubs with up to 2 links to the same domain. However, you might get a penalty applied to your (published) Hubs if you repeatedly link to that domain across many/all of your Hubs. So: allowed, but HubScore penalized.
   
   He states 'However, you might get a penalty applied to your (published) Hubs if you repeatedly link to that domain across many/all of your Hubs'
   
   1.  I put my myspace, twitter and facebook links (thinking this was ok because it is listed in the 'share' section), unwittingly until now. 
   
   2.  I have been beating my brains as to why my score remains fairly low, below 75, despite providing good hubs with original content and been very active within hubpages - I am in no way a spammer!!!!
   
   It then dawned on me that I might be penalised with the same links across hubs.  Of course, I removed them straight away, but wondered if hubpages have put a permanent manual ban on my hubscore or it will correct automatically by computer?
   
   I wonder if anyone can tell me if/how I can resolve the issues? 
   
   Is the low hubscore nothing to do with the links and because I am a particularly bad writer?
   
   Should I shut shop and take my work somewhere else?
   
   I thank and value your response x

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      relacheposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      The score will automatically fix itself, just like the filters in the system automatically search for things that violate the linking policy.  It often takes a few days for them to adjust after major changes. 
      
      To get the most benefit from outgoing links you want them to lead to sites that are relevant to your topic, meaning they go to pages which further add info or help someone who is reading about whatever you are writing.  From what I've seen of your Hubs, you are including product links but zero relevant outgoing links.
      
      I don't comment on a lot of Hubs, so I don't think that's has a lot of relevancy to HubScores when compared to content.  I do have a Hub on boosting your HubScore that you might like to read.

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         Jeffrey Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I have read your hub, but I probably should check it again.  I was briefly at 92 the other day, but I bounce between 91 and 89 lately it seems.
         
         I know commenting isn't essential, but it always seems to boost mine in the absence of any other hubtivity, except for forum postings.  I have some friends on here who do nothing but write hubs.  Absolutely nothing else, and their score stays near 90 regardless.
         
         Oh, the mystery behind the scores...

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         shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         yes.. this is exactly what I need to know to improve myself.  When the guru speaks, i will listen!!
         
         You said 'From what I've seen of your Hubs, you are including product links but zero relevant outgoing links'.
         I still need to get my head around this.  I wondered if you would give me examples, I might actually get it then!   Maybe your hub recommendation might help?
         
         Thanks for your help!

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   Denno66posted 15 years ago

   I have no relevent response, but thought I'd drop in and say Hi anyhow

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      shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Awww.. how nice are you!  It looks like no one else has a clue either? 
      
      Thanks for the bump babes x

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   Denno66posted 15 years ago

   That's what I'm here for(ended it with a preposition again, dang!) 

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      shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You are the ray of sunshine to hubpages.
      
      Do you think it is easier just to send an e-mail to hubpages to get an answer to this?  x

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   Denno66posted 15 years ago

   They are probably inundated with requests, but yes, I believe that may be your best route. Thanks a bunch of ripe bananas for the nice comment.

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      shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      *she looks for the bananas and swings from tree to tree*

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         Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this

         They're in the bag with the many dollar bills

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            shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Money only equals trouble, so I think I will pass on that!! x

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               Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I wish I could pay my bills with happiness, but being currently out of work, I'll opt for the paper stuff

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   NaomiRposted 15 years ago

   Hi,
   
   I just took a look at a couple of your hubs and I think that the reason why your score is so low is because your hubs may be considered overly promotional and too commercial. For instance, in your hub about Gluten Free Southern Fried Chicken, you have links urging people to join Hubpages, SheToldMe via your profile page. You probably want to avoid doing that. You can include stuff like that, as well as mentions of your Twitter/Facebooks accts., etc on your PROFILE page, but you shouldn't be promoting that in every hub. With the individual hubs, try to make the links relevant. For instance, I tried to link my travel hubs that have to do with places in the United States together ... but I didn't mention by Facbeook acct. because it wasn't really relevant here. You might want to try taking out all of that extra stuff and streamlining your pages. It seems like you have some good ideas and are working hard, but the overly-promotional aspect is what stuck out to me as a potential problem.

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      shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Well I did take out the actual links from the hubs and just linked to internal hubpages.  If you click where it says twitter and stuff, this takes you only to my profile page - NOT to twitter etc 
      
      I understand that that is ok to do by darksides hub.  I have also linked other hubs with relevant hubs... for example, gluten free recipes goes with other gluten free recipes.  Imaginative short fairy type stories, go with other imaginative short fairy stories. 
      
      It is all relevant and no promo links.
      Any other suggestions?

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   Jeffrey Nealposted 15 years ago

   I haven't read anything about a permanent lowering of a hubber's score.  Although, I haven't been here that long, I doubt that this is the case.  Whenever my score dips, I make sure to go comment on more hubs and it bounces back, so maybe that's it?

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   NaomiRposted 15 years ago

   BTW, I don't think you'll be permanently banned. I think if you go through all of your hubs and fix 'em up, you'll see your score rising. I'm constantly adding and removing things to each hub ... and my score fluctuates a lot!

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   Janettaposted 15 years ago

   If you want to link visitors to your hub to your FaceBook or MySpace, try adding one link for each on your profile page instead of throughout your hubs.

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      shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I have done this.  On the hubs, I have created a link to my profile page.  The title says follow me on twitter, myspace and facebook.  It then says.... Click on my profile and follow the links (highlighted with an embedded link to the profile page).
      
      The link no longer goes to twitter/myspace/facebook sites. Surely, this isnt a violation?

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         Janettaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         i used to have a link to my FaceBook and Myspace on my profile and never had any issues, so I don't think it's a violation.

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            shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Well the actual link isnt on the hubpage anymore.  I just linked it to my profile and the links now reside there.
            
            Thanks for highlighting this x

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      rebekahELLEposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I think this is the way to go, I've never noticed links going back to hubbers profile page on top hubbers hubs.
      
      the hub is to give info or sell a product. I would try removing those self promo links back to your profile and see what happens.

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         shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         yes i have done that and just referred to profile page but still no joy on the hubscore front!  Thanks for letting me know though x

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   Jeryposted 15 years ago

   I don't know much about hub scores shazwellyn but I checked one of your hubs on a very high dollar keyword and there you hub was number one in Google...you obviously know a thing or two about seo and should be making Mr. Hubpages some AdSense money, so I say your hub score needs to go up straight away! Hey wait, I don't think MR Hubpages listens to me! Anyway...nice job!

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      shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Well that is reassuring! I know nothing about seo... I dont even know what seo stands for!  Is it something to do with search engines? x

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    shazwellynposted 15 years ago

    bump... anyone got any answers?

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    Denno66posted 15 years ago

    bump...nope, sorry

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       shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       there is something weird going on with my account, Denno.  It feels like it is manually been oppressed.  I cant understand how one of my hubs is no 1 on the Google search engine, but no one has clicked.  Very odd. x

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          darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          What is the search term that it gets ranked number 1 for?

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             shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I have no idea!! Truly!

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                darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                It's very easy for a person to get ranked number 1. It's just a matter of picking out a bunch of unique words on your page and doing a search.
                
                The downside is no one else is searching for those words. So 0 traffic.

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                   shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   <<<<<<<<<<<< crap hubber! (talking about me)

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                      rebekahELLEposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      no, you're not~~ hey, we're all learning. you've been here for only 2 months and have 50 hubs. that's a lot of work.

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                         shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

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                      Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      Crap hubber, huh? Hmm......

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                         shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                         silly ole negativity creeping in.  Just a little frustrated babes x

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                            Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                            I've noticed you've not been having a good day here, no problems

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                               shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                               Learning is full of knock downs.  Experience makes us better people xxx

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                                  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                  Tell me about it. If you had the time I could tell you about my life the past three years. You would feel better about yours, that's for sure!

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                                     shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                     umm.. life is full of difficulties.  Whether it is thought of as minor or major... the feelings are the same.
                                     
                                     You should tell me sometime x

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    LOL how do you know then?

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       shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Because a hubber said on the other thread but neglected to tell me which hub he was talking about!!! LOL

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    NaomiRposted 15 years ago

    I still think that if you eliminate all those links about SheToldMe that it might help. Keep in mind that even though the HP community is helpful and we all share information, most of the people reading -- or at least the people you want to get reading -- are from sites like google or yahoo. If they're looking for a recipe for gluten free chicken, they're not going to care about SheToldMe and will just ignore the link. I don't think that linking to your profile page is "illegal" or a violation, or anything like that. I just don't think that these are RELEVANT links to have in your stories and aren't really helping. Perhaps try adding an RSS feed (for example, maybe a feed from a blog about eating gluten free) instead.
    
    For the record, when I first started, I was adding my main RSS feed to every page, regardless of whether the topics had anything to do with that particular page. I wasn't getting as much traffic as I wanted. I then removed most and my traffic went up.

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       shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for your help.. I am yet to get my head around the RSS thing - it gets a bit daunting with the rights and the wrongs.  Dont you think that for writers, who do look at hubs, it is relevant?  I was also thinking that if people signed up to twitter and read tweets, that they will come back to hubpages for more when new articles are published.  I would have thought that would be a good thing, surely, for hubpages?
       
       Hey.... I know nothing and you are probably right but I just dont think being creative can be standardised.  Well... that is from someone who is an advocating people person!
       
       Thanks.  I will let you know what Maddie says.. should be interesting x

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