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  1. Fresh Ploon profile image82
    Fresh Ploonposted 4 years ago

    So I was wondering, why is it that, well established hubbers write articles that are super short, yet, they get tonnes of comments and praises and I write really detailed hubs and I'm lucky to get just a couple of comments. Obviously it's because they've got more hubs and have being writing longer, but if we're comparing the detail and usefulness of hubs, then the very few hubs I have written, I think, are really good.

    I don't get it - any feedback would be appreciated, thanks guys smile

    1. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Two things.  Few organic (outside HP) leave comments and hubbers spotting a long, detailed hub that they haven't searched for (and are therefore interested in) are unlikely to read it so won't leave comments.

      Like you I write long (1500+ words) hubs with as much detail and explanation as I can.  They're just not on "fun" or "interesting" subjects to most hubbers and don't get many views from them.  Out of 1,000 views about 40 are from hubpages and that isn't many visitors to get nice comments from, so I don't see many comments.

    2. MarieAlana1 profile image74
      MarieAlana1posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      In order to get in the article in Google, the recommended amount of words is 500-800 words an article. This lets the article not be so complicated that no one can find it. I think this is the prime reason why a lot of the established hubbers write articles at this length. A lot of these articles are of quality without going over the 800 word limit.

    3. Rock_nj profile image92
      Rock_njposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      It is a bit of a popularity contest at HubPages, and there are cliques of followers and friends that often comment on each other's Hubs. 

      I understand what you are saying.  I wrote a very detailed Hub about Living Off The Grid By Generating Your Own Electricity, which included all the currently known practical options, pricing estimates, and positives and drawbacks.  I only received a couple of comments.  A few weeks later, another Hubber wrote a Hub about the same topic, which was much briefer, did not include all of the options, and did not have any details such as pricing, yet the Hub received tons of comments and praise.  So it goes in life and at HubPages.  Some people just have the rep or the X factor to get a big buzz going about what they write, whether it is excellent writing or not.  But, that's also the way HubPages wants it.  They are looking for writing that brings in traffic, not necessarily quality pieces of writing.

  2. psycheskinner profile image80
    psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago

    For a start they probably have more followers.

    1. Fresh Ploon profile image82
      Fresh Ploonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, but that doesn't mean their articles any good? "/

      1. psycheskinner profile image80
        psycheskinnerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        What has that got to do with getting comments?  This is the real world. If you want comments, do what it takes to get comments.  They are not a neutral prize, they reflect engagement and popularity.

  3. Len Cannon profile image89
    Len Cannonposted 4 years ago

    They are allergic to "/

    1. Fresh Ploon profile image82
      Fresh Ploonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      You make no sense

  4. Simone Smith profile image89
    Simone Smithposted 4 years ago

    Having Followers makes a big difference- it's the difference between Hubbers finding your work by chance on the site and Hubbers seeing your work in the Feed and in email updates.

    Getting more Followers is by no means impossible- one of the most effective ways of doing so is to:
    1. Regularly publish more high quality Hubs
    2. Leave insightful and meaningful comments on others' Hubs

    Hope that helps! big_smile

    1. Fresh Ploon profile image82
      Fresh Ploonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Simone, much appreciated!

  5. tiffanyz profile image61
    tiffanyzposted 4 years ago

    Why is it necessary to be accepted by google adsense brfore you can be an EBay associate or be part of the hubpages ad program?

    1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image91
      mistyhorizon2003posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I think it is just about keeping standards of writing high without HP having to check out writers properly for themselves. Basically if you pass the Adsense requirements you are a fairly 'safe bet' for HP, and all the checking process has been completed by Google.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image94
        Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        If this is the case then why does HP not trust its established veteran writers to be instantly featured.  I asked this in the other thread but apparently TPTB haven't noticed it.<~(sarcasm)

        1. wilderness profile image94
          wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          I'm guess, but probably because it would be used against them. 

          A scammer comes around, waits for the 6 months or so, writes a few hubs and, as soon as he's give the freedom promptly begins producing trash that no one looks at.

          1. Randy Godwin profile image94
            Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Who mentioned 6 months?  Some of us who aren't instantly featured have been here for 3 to 5 years now.

            1. wilderness profile image94
              wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Yes, and some of us that have been here for 3 to 5 years have a subdomain chock full of junk.  This whole thing just isn't as simple as you make it sound, Randy. 

              Given that low traffic hubs need to have a no-index tag (and I'm not sure I agree, but that seems to be the opinion of TPTB) I just see more and more difficulties in applying it.  It most definitely isn't a simple concept to implement.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                How do you know this, Wilderness?  You seem to be there every time a question is asked and most of the time you seem to be guessing.  Are you guessing?  Do you have any real facts to throw around, and if you are correct, then why doesn't one of the crew come out here and simply say the same thing?  Seriously!

                1. wilderness profile image94
                  wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  You lost me a little there - if you are referring to the difficulty of implementation both Paul and Derek have plainly said the same thing and I've just paraphrased them.

                  But here, Randy, how about this.  It should be in line with their overall plan and shouldn't be too expensive to do as much of it is already there.  How about if HP looks at the average traffic per hub for anyone with >50 hubs and if it's over a given amount then give them a "bye" on the pending process.  Eventually, when time permits in several months (from Paul again), they will look at every individual hub, but until then give that "bye" to anyone proven to produce a goodly number of hubs that get the traffic to not go pending.

                  Would you support that?  It should be doable for a reasonable cost, it will stop the spammers (they have to write 50 hubs) and long time hubbers (that have proven they don't need the pending according to already established guidelines) don't go pending.

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                    Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    But if they always feature a writers hub,  I mean every single time, what do they prevent by even having them go through a pending stage where the--in my opinion--detrimental no-index tag is applied?  They have a record of who's hubs aren't featured after the pending stage.  And they have a group now who don't have to go through this.

                2. MelissaBarrett profile image60
                  MelissaBarrettposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7714299_f248.jpg

                  1. Kathryn Stratford profile image89
                    Kathryn Stratfordposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    Ok, that's just a really cute response!

        2. mistyhorizon2003 profile image91
          mistyhorizon2003posted 4 years agoin reply to this

          To be honest I just don't know Randy. I can only guess that my own term 'fairly safe bet' is exactly that, not definitely a safe bet, but safer than someone with no checks whatsoever having been made. I for one do not bypass pending sad and that is largely because in the early days I did post humorous hubs that were double entendre / innuendo based and that ultimately got unpublished as 'Adult Content' (lol). A handful of other hubs had issues with HP for other reasons, such as my one on self defense gadgets for women which was considered as promoting weapons. I think any chance of my ever being able to bypass pending now have long since been destroyed sad

      2. tiffanyz profile image61
        tiffanyzposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        I understand what you mean Misty, but it is very frustrating. I got rejected by Adsense and the explanation was: not meeting their standards, however they don't tell you what these standards are? I give up with AdSense, Thank God, I am writing hubs because I really enjoy it and not because of the earning aspect.  If that were the case I would be stressed all the time. I've joined two weeks ago and have been focusing on writing.  I am going to start reading other hubs I am interested and particpate more in the Hub community.

    2. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      It's because adsense is an integral part of the HPads program, as is the eBay thing.  We don't see it from our end, but HP does and has to have our adsense connection to make HPads work for us.  And then the only way to get the eBay is to have the HPads and you're back to needing adsense.

      1. tiffanyz profile image61
        tiffanyzposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        I see, so in other words you can be on hubpages for years without ever getting accepted by Adsense

        1. psycheskinner profile image80
          psycheskinnerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          You could be in hubpages forever and never get adsense.  Adsense has it's own rules.

          1. tiffanyz profile image61
            tiffanyzposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you for your honest answer. I applied and got accepted by amazon,  and I thought it was a given that  if you were accepted by one, the others would follow suit. Can you earn $ just by being on Amazon.

            1. wilderness profile image94
              wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Absolutely, although I find it more difficult and it requires a different style of writing.

              1. tiffanyz profile image61
                tiffanyzposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                Really? that is very interesting.  Are there examples of these writing styles in the learning center?

                1. wilderness profile image94
                  wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  No.  Basically it amounts to writing an advertisement or other type of hub about a particular product.  A review, maybe, or instructions on usage.

                  A hub on traveling to Florida with an Amazon capsule selling suitcases won't sell anything; a hub on choosing the right suitcase for airline flight might.

                  Discuss the item in the Amazon capsule, then, and make the hub about that item. 

                  I don't like writing those, they're boring and no fun to write but they can sell.

  6. cre8ivOne profile image75
    cre8ivOneposted 4 years ago

    Hi Fresh Ploon, I understand your frustration.  Here are some tips I can give you from my experiences, and certainly understand that I too, do not always get several comments on my hubs either.  Firstly, choose topics that you think will be appealing to a mass audience.  If you choose a topic that is not interesting, people won't read it.  next, make sure you do your research and have a clear message and order to your hub.  Next tip and i find this pretty important, make sure you do a spell check and catch any errors you might have in your articles.  Sometimes, and I am guilty of this too, if I see hubs with spelling errors, I may not continue to read it.  Start networking and reading other peoples hubs and commenting on them.  Begin to follow people and this will help you grow your audience.  Participate in the ad programs, ask questions, answer questions and try to be a key part of the Hub Pages community.  Before you know it, you will have a nice following!  But, remember this takes work and time.  Good luck!

    1. tiffanyz profile image61
      tiffanyzposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Very goo advice, thanks

  7. torrilynn profile image75
    torrilynnposted 4 years ago

    i feel that well established authors are receiving more traffic and comments mainly because they either have a large audience of people that are following them, they have some high quality hubs, or because people are interested in the hubs they post no matter how long or short they are. the best thing for you to do would be to comment on others hubs, leave behind fan mail, answer and ask questions and post hubs that interest you and you feel would also interest others. also, around the holiday season the best thing to do would be talk about that holiday if you wanted to about two or three months in advance so that the hub will receive alot of views as the holiday season comes by and passes.

    1. Fresh Ploon profile image82
      Fresh Ploonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks guys much appreciated, great advice Cre8ivOne

      1. cre8ivOne profile image75
        cre8ivOneposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Glad I could help smile

  8. dailytop10 profile image87
    dailytop10posted 4 years ago

    Hi Flesh, I noticed that most of your hubs are about body building which is a topic only a few hubbers are interested about. Don't worry too much about having no comments and feedback. What matters most are views outside the site so continue on creating quality content. Good luck!

    1. Fresh Ploon profile image82
      Fresh Ploonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks dailytop10, Yes most of them are about body building but I do intend to write articles about other topics too - I have many interests and though the body building hubs would be a good start for me to get underway since I know the topic.
      Thanks again!

  9. profile image0
    Beth37posted 4 years ago

    haha, I had just read a lousy hub (imo), maybe 5 sentences, and it had like a dozen or two glowing comments and I thought, what the heck?

  10. LindaSmith1 profile image60
    LindaSmith1posted 4 years ago

    The writers do not write on one site to begin with. They also have friends, family, and fellow writers from other sites that follow each other, promote each other, etc.

    1. profile image0
      Beth37posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I cant post on FB, I don't want my mom or kids to see my page. lol

      1. psycheskinner profile image80
        psycheskinnerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        You could start a facebook fan page specifically for your writing activities.

        1. profile image0
          Beth37posted 4 years agoin reply to this

          It's funny, my writing is so personal. I don't mind absolute strangers reading it, but I wouldn't really want ppl I know to read it. That seems kind of backwards. I spose I could start a writing page on FB and invite ppl with a link to my hubs and blog, but it seems a bit cheeky. Im worried I might annoy ppl.

          1. wilderness profile image94
            wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Why?  I not only post hubs on my timeline but on a FB page I started on my niche topic as well.

            1. profile image0
              Beth37posted 4 years agoin reply to this

              My mom and kids don't really need/want to know about my sexual side. lol
              Let alone the whole conundrum Im facing with divorce. Ill let them know when Ive figured it out.

              1. wilderness profile image94
                wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                I'd have to go with you there, too! 

                A partial solution for me was to set my close friends and family up into groups and then not share all my hubs with them.  For a while I was posting several hubs per day and it became obnoxious.

                Mostly, though, I now just put a few per month on my person page and save the rest for that niche page designed for that purpose.

                1. profile image0
                  Beth37posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  I might do that.

          2. tiffanyz profile image61
            tiffanyzposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            that's a good idea, I might try the FB thing, I will keep my hub profile and personal profile totally separate.

            1. profile image0
              Beth37posted 4 years agoin reply to this

              It makes you start to wonder whats wrong with the ppl you actually invite to see your hp. lol

      2. tiffanyz profile image61
        tiffanyzposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        that is hysterical Beth, I totally understand the FB issue.

        1. profile image0
          Beth37posted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Some things are personal, right?!

          1. tiffanyz profile image61
            tiffanyzposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Absolutely--it's easier when people you don't know read your writing but Family and Friends, No Way. You should create a totally separate profile on FB and Twitter which is what I will be doing.

 
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