So you've probably decided editing idled hubs is not worth the trouble on HP and began deleting them. How many have you either moved to a more favorable or merely deleted? I'm up to 30 hubs representing over 10,000 views in the past. And you?
I have deleted around 500 hubs, but I have noticed an increase in visitors since doing so.....jimmy
Including all accounts? I would be in range of 150-200. Presently down to just one last hub. After getting very good traffic, fun in the contests, but no earning outlet, less Amazon, pulled them off the shelf. Sold off more than 100 and now publishing them on my recently debuted platform: Authora.me. Was a real bummer to have to pull them but a motivator to create smarter. In the end, the scales balanced. HP is not alone in its struggle. Wizzley, Squidoo etc are facing the same hurdles. The schema has changed. And for all intents and purposes they will either ride the wave to glory, have a Duplex effect (merger) or change their entire approach to digital publishing.
I've only deleted one hub and it was because a family member was offended. I've not deleted anything because of HP. I see my old stuff starting to make the rounds on featured hubs. Just unidle them and see what happens. This is a good site. There are so many great people here. If you don't get banned or HP doesn't tell you one of your hubs is inappropriate, just give it time. We're not making money anyway, what does it matter?
I asked that same question about 10 posts ago, but no one answered. I think it is a hub society secret. shhh
Just because you don't make money here don't think you will not make money elsewhere with the same subjects. Google is ticked off at HP now and not sending as much traffic their way as in the past. Why not simply move your stuff elsewhere when it gets idled. It's clear it isn't appreciated here anymore. It is an insult to any writer to idle perfectly good content and you should certainly treat it as such. I know I do.
I do not delete a hub, unless it is salvageable. I have deleted about 4 hubs, I felt were terrible, and didn't want to bother rewriting.
I'd guess I've deleted maybe half-a-dozen hubs. But they were true pieces of crap from my formative years, so I was fine with it.
Not so for me. Other than a few pieces of fiction, all of my hubs were well researched subjects I spent quite a bit of time on. Perhaps that was the problem.
Have you started any of your own niche websites yet? From your non-fiction subject matter, seems to me you've got a couple really good options there!
I haven't been keeping count. But I can tell you it's enough to be frustrating.
Frustrating is not the word I'd use! It does start with an "f" though!
Fun? Frivolous? Funky? Flattering? Fastidious? Frugal? Failing? Fabulous? Fallacious? Fanciful? Faulty? Fervent? Fitful? Fashionable? Flighty? Flippant? Foolish? Frantic? Futile?
Pick an adjective...or two. Give me an "F"!!
I've moved six hubs to form the basis of a new website of my own.
My best performing hub of all time went to another website I had started previously.
That makes 7 removed out of 30 written in total.
I have also used ideas originally intended for hubs as articles on those two sites.
I have a list of well over 100 ideas for articles, which don't fit either of my sites and have converted a few into lenses on Squidoo. I'm now waiting to see whether it is worth putting any more there, trying yet another revenue share site or starting more sites of my own.
I do not intend to produce any more hubs under the current regimen because it does not support authors' interests.
Actually, none of the hubs I moved had been idled as yet, but I was unwilling to wait for this to happen to them.
Used to have around 260 hubs, now down to around 117 as well as about 10 on a small, second account.
I have an 'idle, gone' policy - if they really want to carry on with this unfeatured/idling programme, couldn't they at least send an email a few weeks in advance with some of an indication of what they see as the problem before they suddenly unfeature a hub that has been around for several years?
HP isn't listening. CM. They are now grasping at straws!
I totally agree with you about having the courtesy to provide a warning prior to unFeaturing/idling a Hub and applying the toxic NOINDEX tag to it. Recently, HubPages said they are looking into it, but it may be too little too late at this point. Slapping a NOINDEX tag out of the blue with no warning is a harsh way to get your message across that you want the Hub to be revised to gain more traffic. No doubt, this slap in the face has turned off many formerly happy writers here.
I've had almost none of my 200 hubs idled, and the handful it's happened to so far have all been easily improved and have (so far) stayed featured. I did have a secondary account of about 30-50 hubs which I opted to just take down to simplify things. Some of that content may get swapped in here, some has been moved to places it fits better.
I suppose those of us who experienced a drastic overnight loss of traffic, which has never returned, a year or so ago has been more affected than some hubbers.
I think I deleted one. But it never even made it to the idled stage. It was just garbage from the get-go.
I've been too lazy to delete or re-edit my idled hubs. They're just slowly rotting. They're mostly recipes from a bizarre cooking phase I went through and I don't really care enough about them. Curse my laziness....
Hey Randy, I am almost scared to post in the forums these days but I have removed quite a number of hubs recently. Not because they could not be improved but because of frustration. I moved the hubs on health to my health blog and viola... my blog stats shot up like rocket. These same hubs are getting very good traffic on my blog so I figure, what the hell...migrate all the idled hubs to my blogs and websites.
Cardisa, do you mean your healthmsmart4u blog? If so, was the move worth it monetarily? I'm letting hubs become idled as they will, and am un-publishing them. At some point, I'll have to decide to move them someplace. I'm undecided about whether to start a blog or sell them someplace like CC.
Hey Healthy Pursuits. Monetarily no. I have no ads on that blog and only have a few affiliate products there, so I would go with CC instead. The blog will take some time to earn you some money. As far as I see it, the health articles are very evergreen so eventually the blog will make me some cash but not right away.
Thanks for the info. I have one on CC and thought about putting more.
Constant Content. It's similar to a freelancing site but you can write articles and sell them there.
I deleted 140 of my worst performing hubs, most of them before idling was introduced - so the number I had that were eventually idled was comparatively small. Like Jimmythejock, I saw a (gradual but major) improvement in traffic over a period of 6 months.
I probably should add that after months of gradually rising, my traffic completely crashed last week and I lost 70% pretty much overnight. This week, it suddenly returned. I think the current instability is related to the upcoming Google algo update, however (see Paul E's thread).
All my hubs are still published, (the little h beside them). Some obviously don't get the traffic others do, but what does it hurt to just leave them the way they are?
Just out of interest, how are people deciding which hubs to delete? To choose 140 'worst performing' hubs, for instance, means what? Hubs with a low hub score, or hubs determined specifically by numbers of visitors?
If it is hubscores, what is the score you consider to be too low?
Thanks in advance.
There's lots of info in the Hub tutorials section.
http://hubpages.com/topics/hubpages-tut … trics/2985
Thanks, Paul. Looks like there's an entire day's worth of reading there. I am on 100% solar power living off the grid, and it is now quite late at night so it will have to wait for more sunshine.
I had just hoped to pick up a couple of quick clues from those who are currently spring cleaning their hubs. Thanks though.
I've also deleted about 30 of them. Most of them were poetry and short stories which don't seem to do too well here.
only one. because it kept on need revision though I am confident that it was great quality. anyway not good enough maybe.
I had similar numbers to CM Hypno. Was nearing 300 pages - now down to 120.
The clearout was long overdue for most of mine. I review my pages regularly - hourly sometimes - trying to see where I can tweak and improve, keyword and content, to get some more traffic. I was getting fed up with constantly seeing the same old pages that never got any visits.
But I needed a kick to get rid of them. They were... oh so precious,.. you know.
Maybe one or two could have gone to a blog or site or something, but for the most part they were not traffic friendly - wherever they went.
Of the pages that HP idled I only winced a few times and felt slightly sad that my wonderful whatever was not good enough for the internet.
The whole idling thing is an interesting debate. Should a pure writer create his work even though no one will read it? Probably. But then it could just stay in a bottom drawer of a writing desk.
I understand why HP did it. They don't have time or resource to get involved in checking each and every page for 'quality' - whatever that is. Google is making it's judgement. If HP pages don't get Google traffic then they might be good or bad, but they still ain't getting traffic. So clear the lot out and hope that Google sees this site as slightly less bad.
It's probably the only hope they have.
To bring some 'real world' into this overlong post. Many years ago Oxford University Press got rid of their Poetry Division. There was nearly blood on the streets - those poets get pretty pissed. But OUP were sadly trying to make money and the burden of publishing content that generated few sales was too much for them.
So it is not just HP who have to make hard calls.
+1 One of my biggest fears is that the poetry, fiction, etc. will end up being a casualty of the Panda war. I don't write any of those types of things, but very much appreciate that HP makes it possible to do so here. It would be a real shame if google forces the decision that it can no longer be done.
I delete pages with poor read times and poor traffic as a matter of course.
I don't want failed pages in my account. I should say seven or eight months of full time work got binned. But then the other months were worthwhile.
This is a long term business. Obsessing over pages that never find a place for themselves is not worth the trouble.
None. I don't write often, so I appreciate all the attention my hubs get.
I’ve only deleted about 5 but I must say I get sick of HP idling hubs that have plenty of views … some even have red ‘up' arrows and plenty of views and they have been idled!
I’m beginning to think HP has lost the plot ...
I've deleted about 130 Hubs, and I still have some that are idled. They can hang out all they want. My account has been on "autopilot" since the idling began. After about a year of chasing the online pennies and avoiding bowing to the Google gods, I'm finding other things to do in retirement. I certainly don't want to WORK at this because it's no longer FUN for me.
"How many hubs have you deleted thus far?"
Well, none since they brought in this idling thing. Three quarters of my hubs have been idled, even those that saw a glimmer of traffic.
A lot are now unpublished, but they are still there.
I was waiting for that magic 1 million views, which I thought I would have seen over a year ago.
It finally arrived this morning, 10 days after the death of my father. He would have been so proud., more so than me.
Now, I have all the time in the world to move those hubs to a new home, whether on my own blogs/sites, or someone else's.
But, you know, I have no interest anymore.
I know what you mean, Izzy! But I'll be damned if I'll let HP dictate which articles to pick and choose to feature either. It's supremely insulting to me as a writer as it should be anyone capable of creating well researched articles. They can just shove it as far as I'm concerned.
I understand totally what you are saying Randy. I,also, would have preferred if they had just come out and said "you can't publish that, it won't ever get views" but they didn't. Many of my unfeatured hubs used to sit at #1 on Google. Many more didn't. Google used to pick and choose, and sometimes they made the oddest choices. But we got on with it and kept churning out hubs.
I have found that Google seems to like a whole subdomain, or not.
So if you have a subdomain that does well, write new articles on it. Putting them on subdomains that don't get traffic doesn't work.
Same writer, same writing style. I made a new subdomain and just for trial and error made a hub with an almost identical title (which I believe is against TOS, but I'm not in the mood for worrying) to one that had been previously successful on this name.
That hub, with half the content, has far surpassed its original in terms of Google views.
There is more at play here than writing ability, but frankly I am tired of the games we are having to play.
I have only had one hub idled, and that was a while ago. I opened it up to edit it and discovered it had an unused photo capsule. I don't know what effect that oversight had. Can't remember if I put a photo in it or deleted the capsule, but I published the hub with no changes to the text and it has remained okay ever since.
Because it was one of my first, I went back through other early hubs to make sure I'd not made the same mistake.
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