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   Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years ago

   Has anyone ever had an article marked as a Duplicate when you wrote every word yourself?  How can this happen?

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      dailytop10posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Have you posted it somewhere else online prior publishing it here in Hubpages?

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   Marketing Meritposted 11 years ago

   Have you published the article elsewhere Ruth?
   My only other suggestion would be to take a few sentences and search for them in Google or alternatively try CopyScape. Hope this helps

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   Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years ago

   I haven't posted it anywhere else.  After it was denied, I ran it through Copyscape and several other similar sites and none of them showed it anywhere.  Also, someone at hubpages approved it and it was unpublished again about 2 hours later.  I have written them to ask how this is possible.  I'm afraid to submit anything else if this can happen again.

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      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Is a good portion published elsewhere?  Not the entire thing, just a respectable portion?
      
      Biblical passages, for instance, are everywhere - if you use the same words (hard to quote of you don't) then it is duplicate material.  You may quote other sources, but only limited quantities.

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         Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         There were Biblical passages but when it was marked duplicate, I took them all out and rewrote the Bible story in my own words.  I just ran it through Google and all the other plagiarism sites...nothing.  This is so frustrating and upsetting.

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   Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years ago

   Could it be the title?

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      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Doubtful - As soon as you put in a title (first thing on the list) it is reserved in HP.  Generally HP will catch any duplicate title and tell you so without accepting it.

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         Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         What if the title is on another site though?  I don't know that it is but I'm grasping at straws now.

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            wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I don't really know.  Duplicate URL's are a no-no, but as far as I know duplicate titles are not.  That they are not allowed here is HP's rule, and I've never had a problem with duplicate titles from other sites, although it does seem like I've seen duplicates of my own.  Particularly the shorter ones.

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            spartucusjonesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            If it has the same title with similar content, then it might. But when you select a good SEO title, the chances are it being used on other sites has well. Has long as the article is unique then it shouldn't be an issue. But if it is even inadvertently similar with the same title I can see where it might be an issue.

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               Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Good point.

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   spartucusjonesposted 11 years ago

   It is good to note when Hubpages says duplicate at times it is a misnomer. Sometimes when you get hit with duplicate content you are actually getting hit with similar content. For example maybe you have written about a similar topic before. Even if you are writing it from a sightly different angle, there is a possibility that certain phrases that you use that may end up being identical. Also if it is a subject that is well covered online and there is only certain terminologies that you can use to describe certain things, inadvertently some of the content can be identical. Another factor to keep in mind is if you are using a number of quotes in your hub. There is the possibility if you don't have enough original content surrounding those quotes you could get hit with  duplicate content. Unfortunately I am not sure what Hubpages threshold is with similar content. 
   
   Lately I have started using Copyscape for every article I write. This helps me gauge the degree of similarity with other online content. The more unique your content is, the better it is going to perform.

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   Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years ago

   I guess I'll just wait for HubPages to answer my email.

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      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Probably best.  And they can make an error; I've got a hub that has carried the duplicate symbol for 2 years.  For some reason the automatics are finding a duplicate but no one else can; HP put a note on it that's it not duplicate even though it still shows that way.

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         Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks, it helps to know that.  I felt like some kind of a criminal when I got that "duplicate" email.

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            spartucusjonesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            When I first started I got it a couple of times. It was connected to the fact that it was a subject that I wrote about before. So even though it wasn't word for word rewrite and I addressed the subject in a different way, certain portion were close to identical. I also had one hub, that had small portions similar to other website content. This was totally inadvertent. But this is why I now use Copyscape for everything I write. Generally I am at 0% or a very small percentage due to quotes, but it is always good to be safe.

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               Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I think that could be the problem because I have a few hubs that are closely related with regard to Bible Stories.  You may have solved the mystery!  LOL

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   Simone Smithposted 11 years ago

   Just had a look at our filters that triggered duplicate warnings on "Christians Are Not Perfect -- Just Forgiven". The sites from which we're seeing copied content are mostly Bible/religious sites, so your hunch in thinking the issue is related with the Hub's focus on Bible stories is right on. I'd add as much original analysis as possible; it should be enough to get rid of re-tellings that match those shared on other sites.

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      Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you!  I feel as if I've been let out of prison LOL!  I wonder if a possible new feature here at HubPages would be a short explanation of why a hub is being triggered as duplicate.  Of course, it might bog down the works...

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   tiffanyzposted 11 years ago

   I had to deal with this the last two days, Here's whar happened?  The articles were published on HubPages first.  I decided that I wanted to drive more traffic, so I posted the same articles on Blogger and my website.  I didn't think it would be a problem, since it was first pulished here.  The article I am referring to was published on HubPages about 3 weeks ago. It was marked as duplicate and I got very frustrated. I just decided to delete the blog and just publish here. I also edited the content of the website, am I exhausted!!!!!!

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   tiffanyzposted 11 years ago

   I also rewrote the article. Never again!!! I've learned my lesson.

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    ContriveITposted 11 years ago

    Im having the same problem. Ran mine through cppyscape and plagspotter ; both 0% but HP say its duplicate. Now I have to wait 72hrs to see what happens. Took me 4hrs to write it and 4 days for it to publish. Just don't add up....

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       spartucusjonesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       It would be good to contact Hubpages directly. Sometimes it could be that their filters mistakenly were set off. But the staff is generally helpful in helping to explain the issue.

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    ContriveITposted 11 years ago

    "give it a couple days ... it should clear up"  is what I get back from HP. More vagueness please?  It took me 4hrs to put the piece together; now 4 days to publish it? This just doesn't add up. I ran it through copyscape & plagspotter; plus I checked the site where the supposed duplicate content was to be; nothing convincing there. 
    
    I come here to see what the hype was about and so far, its just a let down. Time is money and sense of urgency seems non-existent thus far.

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    preciousblottersposted 11 years ago

    happened to me once! I just deleted the hub, waited a few days, and created a new one. it worked that time.

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       tiffanyzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I basically did the same thing.

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    HowToposted 11 years ago

    If it has too many citations, then it could happen.

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    r4rohit81posted 11 years ago

    If the contents of your hub are found to be already there internet then hubpages assumes your content to be taken from there an mark it as duplicate...

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       tiffanyzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       even if it's your own content, which I didn't would be a problem.  I created the hub here first, then I created Blog and included the hub. HubPages told me that I should change some of the content to make them different.  I just deleted the hub, and created a new one with most of the same information and then some.

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    Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years ago

    Every time I use a quote from anywhere I put an active link for the source.  Every time I do that,
    I get a Duplicate warning.  I'm about to give up on Hubpages.  This is nonsense and I won't
    deal with it much longer.  If I take out the quote it won't be a so-called duplicate but why should I have to? I think I hear the Squids calling...

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    ketageposted 11 years ago

    You will have the same problem with squids i think, if you are writing quotes they will show up as duplicate content, my idea would be to use a graphic software for your quote, properly credited of course and put it in as a picture. it will also look better. Try using gimp, its free and you can make some really nice text photos with it.

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       Ruth Lanhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       That's a really great idea.  Thanks!

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