The paradigmsearch thread ~ Tired of talking in the back alleys...
Pro HP, at this time.
Say anything negative about HP, back it up?
Say anything positive? Oh, gosh. Might agree. But only if you are right.
We shall see how this thread goes...
I have both positive and negative things to say, after all, this the first UGC site that I ever used- so sentimental. Always drawn back here.
Positive: it's not a "great" community as some say it is. But here, you will learn to be less thin skinned, make friends, learn a lot, hone your craft and develop confidence. With the right attitude you'll also earn some money.
Negative: The site often overlooks, what to me is the obvious. That's frustrating! The staff have their own frustrations, no doubt. However, if they listened more before rolling out some the changes, I think they'd make a lot more progress.
Well, heck, I'll jump in -- although I ordinarily avoid the forums like the plague. Positive: I love this darned site. I have been a freelance writer for decades and was very skeptical of writing internet content. Frankly, I get really sentimental about the old way of writing -- sending submissions to highly-critical editors and hoping they'll see fit to send that magical acceptance letter. But ... much to my surprise ... I love writing on Hubpages. I love connecting with readers in a way that writing for print-and-paper journals didn't allow. It has shaken me from some of the cynicism I'd developed on seeing the state of the arts change so profoundly. I also love incorporating my own photography. HubPages allows me creative freedom that print journals never offered. The pennies I earn are a smudge of icing here and there on the cupcake of my involvement. It's all good.
Now, the negative ... as I mentioned, I rarely offer anything up in forums. Some folks here are just toxic. Life's too short to spend on that sort of energy. I'm here for a good time.
HP current best site at this time. Period.
I shall rant about other stuff later:
I agree. All the other sites are making changes that are making everyone angry too. The other sites I joined, I earned little money and got few comments.
I like the capsules here and the choices we have to write.
No doubt I'd like more traffic, but that is Googles fault.
I seem to have been shunted into the anti-HP brigade, according to the usual posters here. Yet I am not anti-HP, else I wouldn't still be here.
I am not especially pro either.
Putting it all into perspective, I cut my teeth with the online writing world here, at a time when HP were doing well.
I learned from the Pros.
Obviously I didn't learn that well, or I'd still be getting thousands of Google views per day.
Well, I am really, but over several accounts and with a lot more hubs.
At one time, it really bothered me, but now it doesn't. Things happen in life that are far more important.
If you take a step back, and look at what HP are trying to achieve, then you will realise that the new measures are their way of trying to build a sustainable site.
I don't always agree with their actions. But as a 'collateral damage' hubber, I have been happily deleting hubs that I knew worked at one time, but don't now.
I mean really delete. I haven't saved then for use elsewhere. I won't re-use them. No doubt they have been stolen already multiple times, but the difference between me and the plagiarists is that I can re-write them anytime. They can't.
It comes back to the situation where you write about what interests you, but this time it must be done to a high standard, and if you feel the topic is too short to hub about, ask a question in the appropriate section.
Get a two line answer, and it could still be number 1 in the SERPS.
Which leaves me wondering why HP are insisting on long, informative hubs, when Google returns 50 words results in the prime spot.
I like HP. I like writing. The internet, not HP, doesn't like my writing. Oh well. I still like HP, and as a community, they like me too.
I had my HP whinge back after Panda. They're not stupid. They know how to sort stuff and do what needs to be done. With a bit of trial and error. Compared to running your own website, HP still draws far more traffic for far less work.
I am going to test that theory. I have two years of effort, was 300 hundred hubs - now after weeding out the stuff Google was never going to like - 100.
I want to see what happens if I put two years and 100 pages onto a website or two. It is the only way to know.
When I started over 2 years ago HP and other big sites had extra Google love. Google has taken that away and in some cases penalised it. I honestly don't know if there is any traffic benefit one way or the other.
As for PD's thread. I am probably lumped in the negative camp too - but I am not. I learn from HP, meet some great people, enjoy writing and funning here. The software is brilliant, the staff are great and it is a good place to be.
As for Google...
This site needs a few crumbs of comfort from Google. It certainly deserves some. The investment of time, money and effort in quality issues can hardly be improved on.
Going forward it might just be a place where the rewards are hubscores and feedback rather than traffic and dollars, but it deserves better.
There. I ain't being serious again for a week.
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