Is this infringement?

Jump to Last Post 1-4 of 4 discussions (15 posts)
  1. prokidwriter profile image96
    prokidwriterposted 4 years ago

    Over the years, hits on my Hub, "Girl Scout Wide Game to Celebrate Juliette Low's Birthday" have been declining. I did a little research this year and found that a few Girl Scout Councils have been publishing the games that I wrote about in my article, pretty close to word-for-word. Example: for the Pancake Toss game, I wrote: "On the plate is an oversized pancake. One girl from each team begins by holding their team's pancake on the plate. On start, the two girls race down the playing area, tossing her pancake in the air and catching it on her plate. At the end of the playing area, she turns and runs back to her team, still tossing and catching her pancake."  On a Council website, they wrote: "Place an oversized pancake on the plates. One girl from each team begins by holding their team's pancake on the plate. On start, two girls race down the playing area, tossing their pancakes in the air and catching them on the plates. At the end of the playing area, the girls turn and run back to their teams, still tossing and catching the pancakes." Another Council website has a .docx file available for download that quotes my article in complete paragraphs, though they did attribute the source. Still, this was done without my permission. So is this infringement? I sent email to the Council with the .docx file asking that it be removed, but I don't know what to do about the others. I did a lot of research to write my article and I came up with the Pancake Toss and the Hoop Roll games based upon my research. It doesn't seem right that Girl Scout Councils duplicate my work. On the other hand, are all things scouting simply fair game? Thanks in advance for your advice.

    1. profile image0
      sheilamyersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      According to copyright law, someone can quote small portions of your work without violating copyright. From the example you've given, the only thing the other person changed was the first sentence. I would say that's a violation of your copyright. However, with something this short, they could've easily changed a few words here and there and made it their own. This is a hard one to figure out without talking to a lawyer who will, unfortunately, probably tell you it's not worth the fight.

      1. prokidwriter profile image96
        prokidwriterposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Sheilamyers, I realized right away that it wasn't worth fighting about (and it's simply not the Girl Scout way) though I am really perplexed as to why Councils would do this. Perhaps it is more of a teachable moment, one that I can bring up to Girl Scout HQ? Seems like they might be interested in passing along do's and don'ts when it comes to what Councils should put on their own webistes.

        1. Barbara Kay profile image92
          Barbara Kayposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          My niece had a hub stolen by an English teacher that was using it in his classes. Now, he knew better, but he did it. She just kindly asked him to remove it and he did. Try that.

          1. prokidwriter profile image96
            prokidwriterposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Barbara, I 've begun writing to the Councils that have posted my content. Hopefully they will remove it.

        2. profile image0
          sheilamyersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          You make a good point. If I remember correctly, the Girl Scouts teach honesty and integrity, so you could contact them and explain things. I also like what JRScarboro suggested. Ask them to place a little notice stating you provided the info. In addition to that, perhaps they would agree to post a link to your hub on the page where they mention your name. I don't know if they'd do the link for you, but it's always worth a try.

    2. Mary McShane profile image77
      Mary McShaneposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Deleted

      1. profile image0
        blake4dposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Maybe you could write a new hub following the course of the details, as you have explained them here, and publicly accuse and scandalize the girl scouts as a new breed of plagiarists. The scandal might get you even more hits...or you could just be glad that you work inspired such a major organization to steal from you, and be honored by it. Keep on Hubbing. Blake4d

    3. Helena Ricketts profile image95
      Helena Rickettsposted 4 years ago

      You could try reporting the URL to Google.  If they think that it is duplicate content, they will de-index the page in their search engine.  For Yahoo and Bing, you'll have to contact them directly.  The instructions for doing that are in the HubPages learning center.

      I recently had an online pet store do that with one of my articles from HubPages.  They just happened to pick the one that receives the largest number of hits and Amazon sales for me.  The company copied the hub word for word but had the paragraphs split up on the page with other stuff written in between.  My traffic to that hub dropped.  I mean it really dropped.

      I reported their page to Google through WebMaster Tools and it took a few days but Google de-indexed their page.  It took a couple more days but that hub is now getting the traffic that it was originally receiving and the Amazon sales are back to normal.

      I also agree that contacting the Girl Scouts might be a good idea.  It's dishonest behavior by an adult and needs to be addressed with them.

      1. prokidwriter profile image96
        prokidwriterposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Helena, I'm really hesitant to report the Council sites to Google, as I don't want them to get de-indexed. Hopefully it won't come to that, and the individual Council sites will be responsive to my request to take down the duplicate content. Sorry to hear about your own infringement experience. I can relate to seeing hub traffic drop! It's amazing to see how far traffic can drop, isn't it?

        1. Helena Ricketts profile image95
          Helena Rickettsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          You are very welcome.

          Yes it is.  I was seriously annoyed because it is my highest earning hub.  It went down to almost nothing.

          Just so you know, reporting duplicate content to Google doesn't de-index the entire site, only that one page.  I think I made it sound like they nix the whole site.

    4. SmartAndFun profile image96
      SmartAndFunposted 4 years ago

      I think contacting the councils directly, as you are doing, is the best approach in this case. Girl Scouts is an honorable organization, and I think they will take your article down with the first request. I'm assuming whoever posted it had no idea, so this will be a teachable moment. The councils will probably be mortified to learn they've done something wrong.

      1. prokidwriter profile image96
        prokidwriterposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks SmartandFun, I agree that GS is an honorable organization. I'm hoping that this will be an easy-to-resolve issue with them!

    5. JRScarbrough profile image89
      JRScarbroughposted 4 years ago

      I’d take it as a compliment and then work to out do yourself. I can understand the frustration though. But just think, more than one person considered your writing and subject matter worth stealing. It means you are really good.

      In the end, what I would do is request that all the sites attribute your work to you and then leave it alone. Anything that leads toward your name getting out there is worth its weight in gold. Perhaps you could get some links toward your article out of it all.

      Use it to your advantage is my advice.

      1. prokidwriter profile image96
        prokidwriterposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks JRS! I like your sensibility and your humor!

        1. JRScarbrough profile image89
          JRScarbroughposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          You’re very welcome and thanks!

     
    working

    This website uses cookies

    As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

    For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://hubpages.com/privacy-policy#gdpr

    Show Details
    Necessary
    HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
    LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
    Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
    AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
    HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
    HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
    Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
    CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
    Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
    Features
    Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
    Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
    Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
    Marketing
    Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
    Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
    Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
    Statistics
    Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
    ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
    Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)