Pairing of Hubs with the New Format--Odd Couples

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   CatherineGiordanoposted 10 years ago

   Has anyone else seen really weird pairings of hubs?  I'm loving the new format and having another hub of mine appear on the side with the ads. Most of the pairings make sense, but I just noticed my hub about Edith Piaf (a bio and tribute poem) and my hub about Zombies got paired. That is really an "odd couple."  What odd couples have you seen on your hubs?

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      LindaSmith1posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      It looks so dumb!  Instead of allowing us to choose our own relevant hubs like we used to be able to do.   They are doing it this way. Sticking one hub  in the middle of two ads, some having no relevance at all to the hub you have written,
      
      The changes just get worse

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      rebekahELLEposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That is a broad category, Entertainment and Media. The only thing you could do is change either of them to a different category which may or may not have the same effect with similar odd couples. 
      I haven't looked through all of mine but so far what I've seen seems to work fine.

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         Glenn Stokposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         "Education and Science" is also a very broad category, which caused a number of my unrelated hubs to be paired and listed as "more by" - but just tonight I've noticed an improvement. It's seems the algorithm is going by the second level or lower level now, which associates a much better match. It just seems that way as I checked a few of my hubs.
         
         Hopefully HubPages will confirm if this indeed was changed recently. Or is it just a coincidence. Is anyone else noticing a change with the algorithm not going by the top level topic anymore? I hope this is actually the case as it helps a lot, and actually solves the problem we all have been noticing.

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      peachpurpleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      yeah, i seen my hub paired with a christmas card and a pork dish, not related at all

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   DrMark1961posted 10 years ago

   They are chosen by topic, and the only way to change the hub is by changing the topic. Not easy to do, and my recent hub on barking has a hub on "How to cheer up a depressed dog" even though I have about 4 others on aspects of barking. As Linda points out, the only thing that makes sense is to have the hubber choose what is related, not some algorithm.
   Glen Stock mentioned that "The universe" is in the same topic category as "Social change". Read more, right?

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      LongTimeMotherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Dr Mark,
      I'm wondering if your 'before' and 'previous' hubs are about barking. We can control those two by positioning them appropriately in 'groups'.
      
      I actually like the idea of HP determining which of our hubs is shown in 'More'. Too often hubbers lack the ability to objectively view the quality of their own hubs - and may underestimate the potential 'value' of particular hubs.
      
      Personally, no matter what subject I was reading about in your interesting array of hubs, I'd probably click on How to cheer up a depressed dog. Just so I know for the future (if ever my dog does become depressed.)
      
      I might not immediately agree with HP's choice, but I suspect they know a lot more about traffic trends than I do.

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         DrMark1961posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         No, I have too many hubs to expect the before and after hubs to be about barking. They are in the appropriate group, but there are a lot of hubs in each group.
         The point about "more by" is to encourage people to read more. The hub I am referring to is about small dogs barking excessively, and I would prefer to have a "more by" about "small dog breeds that do not bark much" or "how to train your dog to bark less". Since the algorithm at the bottom of the page was also changed, and anything related disappeared, I had to add link capsules with the relevant material. There are no photos, of course, so I am not sure how many clicks they will garner.
         I can´t really comment on what other hubbers might choose, but I do know that this algorithm is not choosing correctly. Maybe if it was a human from HP the choice would be a lot better.
         This morning I mentioned something to Jodah about opening a satellite HP office in your country so that we would have 24 hour service. Are you interested in applying? (Yes, you would have to get back on the grid. Everything in life has a price, which is why I am poor and sitting on a beach.)

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            LongTimeMotherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            lol. I am way too unpredictable in which hours of the day I spend on hp, DrMark. But I'd be happy to hit 'report' so Jodah (or any of the other many Australians I've spotted on hp including Marisa and WryLilt) could respond.
            
            No chance of me going back on the grid any time soon.
            
            By the way, it doesn't take long in 'Groups' to just grab and drop titles in a different order - if ever you're sitting around twiddling your thumbs waiting for the rain to clear. Don't know if there's any readers who have not yet looked at the 'Groups' label at the top of their Stats page ... but figure I'll mention it just in case.

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      Glenn Stokposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I already fixed that. I had to move one of them into a totally different topic category so that it doesn't appear in the right column as another by me under that topic. Since the algorithm goes by the top level topic (which is sometimes too broad) I was forced to choose another category that wasn't the best fit, but at least it's a way to isolate my  "universe" hub from my  "social theory" hub.

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         DrMark1961posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks Glen, sorry about the spelling! Definitely not the first time I have done that.
         I looked through "categories" after I read you other post in the other thread, but did not find an appropriate place to put my hub. Glad to hear you found one, even if it was not the best fit.

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            Glenn Stokposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            No problem. I'm used to it. People always drop an n, as you did again. LOL. And more common is to add a c to my last name. It always happens. So not to worry.
            
            As for your hubs, go back and check to see if the "more by" is listing a better fit today. See my prior post here about something I noticed just tonight. It seems the algorithm may have been changed to go by a lower topic level . If you are using the same lower level in both, try selecting a different lower level. See if that works.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 10 years ago

   I do not know that they are pairing hubs. I simply watch that they are highlighting or recommending one more interesting hub for my viewers. Let it be on any topic. Not necessary to be related to my present hub topic. So, I do not bother whatever they may be choosing as more.

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I agree. It really does not matter to me which hub they choose in the 'More By'.  I write on a variety of topics and like to have my readers know that.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Glad to know that you also agree with me. I think it should not matter. They are doing that much service by highlighting one more hub of yours. We should be glad with that.

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            colorfuloneposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I agree with you. It doesn't matter to me either, but than I just like to go with the flow.

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               Venkatachari Mposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               It is a good habit to be with flow and be one among the group. But, sometimes, it may be good to be unique and be yourself. Not that I mean in present context but at some occasions it helps and protects you to be yourself.

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   LindaSmith1posted 10 years ago

   It may not matter as to which hub is shown, but isn't that contradicting us being told our links to our other hubs, etc need to be relevant to our hub.

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      LongTimeMotherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      It is in the sidebar with other ads. That's very different to being in the 'content' of the hub itself.

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   LindaSmith1posted 10 years ago

   Use a link capsule for listing other hubs and see what happens if they are not considered to be relevant.

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      LongTimeMotherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Are you meaning a 'link capsule' that features the link within the 'content' of the hub itself? It certainly won't feature the link in the sidebar where the ads are featured. So I'm not seeing what point you are making.

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   LindaSmith1posted 10 years ago

   Everything we do, we are told "It has to be relevant."   
   
   Yet ads are not relevant to content.   Now we are having the More with hub being displayed that is not relevant.
   
   So what is happening now is similar to the cliche: Do as we say, not as we do.

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      LongTimeMotherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'm surprised it bothers you so much, Linda. You have repeatedly told us on other forum threads that you are leaving hp because you are not happy. Have you changed your mind?

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      Venkatachari Mposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I believe to do what is good and justified than do what others say or what others do. That should be good, I hope Linda.

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   LindaSmith1posted 10 years ago

   That  has nothing to do with forum topic, and really what I do is not anybody's business,

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      LongTimeMotherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Well, sure, if what you do is in private. But for those of us who are following public discussions on the forum,it seems reasonable to ask a question when it gets confusing.
      
      You have recently been saying (repeatedly) that you are leaving and only leaving content you don't care about. Yet here you are expressing concern about links to other hubs.
      
      Seems reasonable to ask if you have changed your mind, doesn't it?

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   LindaSmith1posted 10 years ago

   No!  What do you do when members are in forums and don't have any hubs written?     I had 70, now I have 19.

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      LongTimeMotherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'd be happy to answer your question, Linda, but I don't understand it.

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      Venkatachari Mposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I am sorry to see you removed most of the hubs, Linda. You write so well and I bet you receive much audience. But , you are restless, nowadays, here and I feel sorry for it.

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