Amazon affiliate id on hubpages is different from amazon id on amazon

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   luisj305posted 9 years ago

   When I check out my affiliate id under the earnings-settings tab I see an affiliate id that I can't find in my associate account via the amazon webpage the one which shows up is completely different. Therefore I'm unable to receive any earnings correct? Or is this unrelated and it's actually Hub pages amazon I.D. which forwrd payments and I need not worry? Very confused here. Appreciate any help!

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   LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

   If you are part of the HP Amazon program, HP gives you your ID for that.  Your personal Amazon Associate ID and account is totally different and separated from HP Program.        Also remember, regardless of which program you choose to use, there is a 60/40 split with Hub Pages.  So if you click on a page that happens to be part of HP 40% of the time, you will see their code, not yours.  When the products in your hub is part of your 60 percent of the time, then you will see your code.  Amazon only pays you commissions under your persona affiliate account.  HP pays your commissions to you under their HP Amazon program.

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      luisj305posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So I'm not able to see any stats for the amazon affiliate id under earnings - settings tab correct??
      How do I know what is being earned via hubpages? Will that be what is listed in that earnings section or are those for MY affiliate i.d.?

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      bobtyndallposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      There is only a 60/40 split if you are using Hubpage Amazon program. If you opt out of that and use your own amazon account there is no split. You get all of it. Otherwise there would be no point opting out of Hubpage account.

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         neosurkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Bob, there's still 60/40 split even if you opt out of the HP Amazon program. If you use the Amazon capsule, only 60% of the time your Amazon id is gonna be shown.
         
         However, if you decide to create a text link (which you can do twice in one hub), you get 100%.

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            bobtyndallposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Where do you see that? What would be the point. I switched to my own account. When I look at the google earnings it takes me directly to my account. If nothing changes what reason is there to use your own account.
            One of the reasons I went with my own is because their is no tracking with Hubpages. How does anyone know whether you are getting your fair sales. Please send me a link to the policy because at the moment I don't believe it.

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   Hezekiahposted 9 years ago

   Thanks for clarifying that, I always thought that they were the same. I had no idea that there was any difference. Not wonder the figures are completely different.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes they are completely separate. 
      
      Are you using your personal Amazon account on any other site?

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         luisj305posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Yes I use my i.d. on a blog as well. Is that ok?

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            Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Yes that's fine.  I was just wondering because if you're not using it elsewhere, then it won't earn any more and the money you've got there would be stuck.  However as you're using it elsewhere, that's not a problem.

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   luisj305posted 9 years ago

   Thanks for the answers to all btw..

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   luisj305posted 9 years ago

   Hmm, actually I think something is still wrong. I refreshed a hub a few times to verify the diffeence in ids which are being brought up and this is bring up two different i.d.s both of which are not mine..
   hubpages only has one I believe.
   #1== h ttp://www.amazon.com/Performance-Amplified-Protein-Chocolate-PoundsAKFS0EHBYQ06tag%3Dhubacct119620%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26
   
   #2==http://www.amazon.com/Displays2go-Plastic-Female-Mannequin-Includes/dp/B00JKLAAGY%3FSubscriptionId%3D14H876SFAKFS0EHBYQ02%26tag%3Dhubpages-20%26linkC

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      Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Have you checked on your account page, to ensure that you have signed up for their Amazon program?

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         luisj305posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Yes I have signed up to the hubpages amazon program.

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      neosurkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, this is fine.
      
      1) The first URL contains a tracking id like hubaccttt196 (which is attributed to you for the 60% of the time)
      
      2) The second URL contains a tracking id hubpages-20 (which is the 40% HP share)
      
      So, 60% of the time, the tracking ID is attributed to you. And those sales referred by that tracking ID will be credited to you.

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         neosurkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         On all of my hubs too, there is this "hubpages-20" tracking id (same as in yours), so that means HP is taking its 40% share from  it.

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   LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

   Use your Amazon Affiliate ID for blog, not the one HP gives you.

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   LindaSmith1posted 9 years ago

   bobtyndall: The 60/40 split is for both ways to use Amazon. The reason people use the HP Amazon program is because they earn more in commission which most of the time is 8% rather than the typical 4% with personal account, unless you make a lot of sales and move up in tiers.   The difference is that you do see sales that come from your HP Amazon program, but don't see the clicks on products, which products are clicked on whether or not a sale is made with the HP program, like we can using our own account.

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      bobtyndallposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      What I would like to see is the link that shows that. I have been to the area where it tells you all about setting up an amazon account. I can't find anywhere that tells me about the percentage earned for either account.

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   neosurkposted 9 years ago

   The percentage earned from either account is just what Amazon pays us. I don't think Hubpages has the commission explanation, but here's from Amazon.
   
   https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp … ation.html
   
   Hubbers with their own Amazon associates start at 4% and reach up the tier based on how many itema they sell individually. Hubbers who join HP's Amazon program can *expect* to get paid 8.5% because it takes into consideration the whole affiliate sales of the entire site hubbers plus the 40% share HP takes from hundreds of thousands of hubbers.
   
   And yes, your point is also valid that we can't really see the transparency of HP, whether it counts all sales. However, this is just something we have to trust them.
   
   Btw, I use my own Amazon account although I only reach the third Amazon tier, not because I don't trust HP, but because there's a PayPal limit and I prefer to get paid by bank transfer.

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