Whenever you write some great things about a hub, an author approves it immediately but if you have something to say which had a tone of critism, even very light, your comments would be denied in most cases. Is it good thing about our community?
Don't you think when we honestly feel that the criticism is proper and justified, we should approve it!!!
That would improve the quality of our content in a great deal, I believe. What's your opinion.
A title is misspelt, it actually is, Positive criticism. Thanks.
Yes Titiya, I was asking about acceptance of negative feedbacks, of course when they are justified. The title thing was a small correction by comment. Thanks sallybea for tips. Your views regarding the original question are most welcome. Thanks csmiravite and Titiya for your time.
To the receiver all criticism are negative. However, the closest we can get to a positive criticism is one that provides an alternative to what is being criticized, to give the receiver something to chew out, rather than chewing out his/her critic.
Not every criticism can be negative for receiver if he/she has got balanced open mind which has a respect and passion for true knowledge. Also, it is not always possible for a critic to suggest an alternative as that is something for writer to find out. What say Ben!! Thanks for the time.
How can you criticize something that you don't understand. You should understand it to the extent you are able to see the flaw in it that need to be corrected. If you think you see a flaw and know not how to correct it, you may well say nothing because what you say would be negative, coming not from knowledge but from your perspective which is subjective.
You are right Ben but it may not always be possible for a reader to suggest a perfect alternative. Even if he/she suggests something, an author has to verify and check it before publishing. So, when it is a great thing if somebody gives a fitting alternative, it is for the writer to make needed changes if he feels right. And one more thing, every feedback is subjective as every person interpret everything in a different personal way and every understanding and thought is a knowledge. Thanks for the time.
For what it is worth, here's what I think:
People here are too quick to support the work of writers who do not deserve it. They are not helping when they do this, and are, in fact, making others feel that their work is acceptable.
When I see something that tells me people are lying, manipulating the system, plagiarizing and the like, I point blank tell them about it. I don't care whether they publish my comments, as long as they read them and know someone is on to them.
I did that just a few moments ago with someone who was whining about being unfeatured when his article was ridiculously bad on so many levels. Why should I, as others did, make him think what he was doing was OK? It isn't helping him, and it is not helping the site.
When a writer, for example, casually says that he knows Grammar is not his strong point, I never hear him say "so, I think I better take some classes so I can do better". He simply thinks that acknowledging this fact makes it OK. It isn't. Poor grammar and spelling make for substandard articles, and those are the very ones Google bashes. They eventually undermine all of us.
How could any writer NOT know that he or she is not
writing an article instead of a blog
organizing work well
providing incorrect or incomplete information, etc.?
They know. They just don't want to do the work that is required to produce good hubs.
Sorry for the rant, but I feel if people are going to ask for help, than others should give it and be honest about it. It's the only way people learn and/or decide that writing is not their forte!
I like to follow the "innocent until proven guilty" rule. I will try to help Hubbers improve and assume that they are trying their best to follow the guidelines. I will be honest about my evaluation, and will not assume to know any bad intentions of the writer.
Actually, having been at HubPages since two weeks before they came out of beta testing, I have to disagree with you. Over the last almost nine years, it's become clear that with a global audience able to access HubPages, you can very easily get people involved in the site who do not realize any of those things.
And if you had been here in 2009-2010, we were flooded with over a million users who all were clueless, bad writers, and drawn by the unmistakeable lure of "write anything, earn money." And the site ran profitably like that because those were the days.
I think many people here take it too personal when they read a negative or positive comment. They often forget about 'constructive' criticism, they forget the fact that you are trying to help them, not to make them feel miserable.
Yep, you can always delete the comment. I have deleted spam comments --- a number of them.
That's not what the OP asked.
I think positive critisism should be accepted, there's nothing wrong with it. We all know that life isn't about roses only.
I have written comments, which I think were good, but were taken differently. I took it with a grain of salt, and no longer minded it.
On the other hand, if I get spam, one thing is certain --- they will not see the light of day. I'll delete them.
If a comment on one of our Hubs includes positive criticism, I would approve it. After all, we can reply to the comment, thank the person for the criticism, and make corrections if necessary.
When reading online, the critical comments are often very helpful to the readers. I have read many of them that pointed out erroneous information, and IMHO, they add to the content of the article and/or the discussion.
Right, shades of truth. You are very near to my thoughts. But, such practice seems less here. I have hardly seen any hubs with criticism in comments. Can you suggest me some as I am comparatively newer here. Also, if you can spare some minutes, please, go through my hub and give your feedback. Thanks for the time.
It depends on the comment. If it is about a typo, I would probably fix the typo and delete the comment. There is no need for permanent documentation that I had a typo in the hub. It would only confuse the readers since the typo has been fixed. Most Hubbers don't expect these types of comments left intact. They should be writing an email instead, but it does take extra steps, and I appreciate that they let me know whichever way is convenient for them.
If it is a disagreement about a fact, and it is a controversial topic, I would leave the disagreement there so my readers could see that there were other viewpoints.
If it is a disagreement about a fact, and it is incorrect and not a controversial topic, I would probably delete it so it doesn't confuse my readers.
Also it depends on how respectfully the criticism was presented. If it feels like it undermines me as the author or my authority of the topic, I might delete it even if the criticism was valid.
One thing I struggle with related to this question includes fidelity and quality of the HubPages community, especially as it relates to recipes and instructions. For example, when a recipe is posted with a beautiful picture, I will comment about the picture and desire to replicate the examples pictured. However if the recipe does not work out as instructed - it is critical that the author fix the recipe and in some cases, they may only know that the recipe or instructions are wrong through the comments.
If the instructions are not fixed, the readers who tried the recipe and found that it did not create the desired results will have had a negative quality experience within the HubPages community. I have had this experience on several occasions and left constructive information in the comments section and neither were accepted. One particular recipe has a number of questions in it asking if the author added something or another to make it work, since the published recipe was clearly wrong.
And on another note, I had a typo in one of my titles and wish someone had caught it, and commented on it, or sent me a note because the minor misspelling cost me significant loss of traffic as a result!
I appreciate comments, feedback and especially constructive criticism and approve all comments except the spam. If we use the comments to improve our skills, instructions and quality - it will help to strengthen the entire quality and fidelity of the HubPages community.
Great analysis Kathy. It certainly is involving quality perception of hubpages. Let's spread the message about it as there seems nothing else we can do. May be, there should be a complaint system where a reader can report serious mistakes so that they can be improved by the big boss.
I wish I got more comments that civilly disagree with my hubs. I have several hubs with severely unbalanced guestbooks because I won't publish comments with swearing, personal attacks, threats, or hate speech in them and a lot of people who disagree with my content can't seem to avoid them.
I also don't publish long, off-topic comments or comments containing big hunks of duplicate content because Google sees the whole page, comments and all, and judges what the page is about based on all of the text on the page, not just the author's words.
How true. Spammers and haters should be avoided at any cost, same goes for off topic and duplicate comments but may be some comments with different views should be fine as that can start a fine debate on the topic and that, in turn, can increase the quality and popularity of the hub.
I would consider myself lucky and truly blessed if someone criticizes my work, even blasting me. I have written many controversial hubs, belittling hunters, and even ranchers, but alas, I have not been the chosen one.
But I agree with you.
I accept and keep all comments, even critical critiques. I think we should be open to all comments if they are given appropriately. In my opinion, it's wrong to delete someone's comment who disagrees with your position. I've had several and thanked the person for their point of view. I even altered something in a hub based on the person's critical comment about what I wrote which made her feel excluded. I think it's important as writers to remain open to the responses we receive as a result of what we write. As long as it's not abusive, spammy, or cyber-stalking, I think we should keep the comments.
It depends if the criticism benefits the readers.
"...if people are going to ask for help, than others should give it..."
Surely you mean 'then' in the above context."
Rather than getting angry, I give corrections, usually by email.
Then everyone is happy.
Friends, I have finally published my second hub after hard work of some days. Awaiting your positive criticism @ <snipped>
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