I published a hub a about three weeks ago, titled: "Defining My Purpose on HubPages: Aftermath of My Wars on HubPages Forums". I've written and published one more hub after that (it's still undergoing the site's quality assessment process) and I'm planning to write more hubs.
I almost forgot about that 2nd hub that I wrote. Today I googled this phrase "purpose of hubpages", and my hub showed up at the second slot (from the top) on the very first page of the Google's search results related to that phrase.
Google had yielded 'About 7,54,000 results' in total, in '0.36 seconds'.
I use HubPages as a hobby. But it was definitely a pleasure to witness, in person, that the system that I take as a hobby, ultimately works and generates results.
I have many articles that appear on page 1 of Google, but I don't even look anymore now that Marissa taught me about how Google functions. The only way to really know is to go to a local library that you have never used before, sign into nothing, and do a generalized search for your topic, not a word for word one. For example, instead of "The Best Pair of Ballet Slippers I Have Ever Owned", type in best ballet slippers. Then you can see where your article really ranks. Google sucks that way, and it fools people into thinking they are ranking well when they may not be ranking much at all!
"...It has spent time ranked number one for those two words alone but again your right, the specific title means nothing as far as rankings go. The point I'm trying to make is that, if we are more concerned about PVs then staying in the first five pages is important.
Three main factors contribute to this articles success, the way it was written, the title and the subject matter.
So while I agree with the premise that being ranked number one is pointless for the specific title, being on page one through five is not pointless for the subject matter.
As you may know I don't write for money that isn't what motivates me but I do write to share information and the more people that read my articles the easier it is for me to share my often abstract ideas and concepts.
As usual you are spot on but let's get real the point is pretty much self explanatory."
"Defining My Purpose on HubPages: Aftermath of My Wars on HubPages Forums" - stats
published: 6th Oct, 2015
top traffic sources (external traffic) up-to today:
● google.fr 2
● google.com 1
● facebook.com 1
As far as I remember, I was rechecking that hub's status on Google this morning, using a new IP and testing through different regional versions of Google. I happened to have tested that hub through Google.fr.
You took absolutely nothing away from the comment you quoted, did you?
The point is, number one in Google IS the best place to be, but only if there is traffic. If there's no traffic, it's just as good as having a gigantic banner advertising your business placed in the middle of the ocean. Yes, a random lost ship may sail past and see it but other than that... it's just a personal pat on the back, nothing more.
I'm on HubPages because it's a fun activity. If there were no fun in it, I wouldn't be on HubPages. Being Number 1 on Google does matter to me. Because that's one of the final objectives of being on this website.
I'm not expecting any rush of capital through my endeavors. But if it ever comes, it's welcome.
what kind of capital? What kind of money do people actually make? Like a hundred dollars? like 500 dollars? Like you have any control over it? like you can write your head off and stuff and still you can't seem to find the right tune,
and then you write a hit and its on the radio. and
wow! So you can type (accuarely) just about as fast as you can think. (?) double wow! maybe I should relearn to keyboard accurately and flawlessly. I still have to look at the keyboard to type. do you?
Here is how my keyboarding looks once I am done the first time: A little duck walked ito a lake and started to swinm to the other side. he was quite sure the hawk flying upahead woyld oar down to splash water arhim. he wanst sure wnhy that stupid hawk always did that. like a little water would really heuit HIM!
Kathryn, my mother told me when I was 9 years old that I couldn't play Pacman till I learned to touch type however I'm not extremely fast. A relative played the piana professionally and she is an amazingly fast typer!
The point is, Das, me old dear, you can rank #1 for *any* phrase if it's never searched for by anyone anywhere. Being #1 might bring a small tingle of happiness to you, but it isn't going to attract readers to your hub.
As far as I know, both 'Paradigm Search' and 'Paradigmsearch' happen to be the alter-ego(s) of 'Calculus-geometry'. The real person behind these 3 profiles happen to possess at least one more such persona that I've personally interacted with.
My intuition is: he has more. And he can't take a joke from me now. :-D
I just read your hub DasEngel, and it deserves a high place on the Google search pages. Unfortunately I would love to comment but you must have comments turned off. I commend you on your stance and agree with many of your statements. Thanks for sharing quotes by the staff of HP as well. I believe there is a place for every type of writer here and no one should be discriminated against or made to feel less worthy.
I don't think anyone has discriminated against any kind of writer on one single forum thread. However, observations have been made as to whether a hub is likely to A. get featured and B. attract traffic. If those two things aren't going to happen, then the writer may as well use a private blog, some kind of journaling software or a notebook and pen because essentially they are writing to express themselves.
Hubpages, like it or not, is a commercial site that makes income via advertising. It can't afford to host oodles of hubs that don't comply with A & B above, however beautifully written.
This is the crux of DasEngel's complaint and the basis of his perceived 'forum wars'.
What you've said above is equivalent to saying that Google should delete Wikipedia entries from its index, because Wikipedia doesn't contain adsense elements: which means, ultimately, that for Google, Wikipedia renders no commercial benefits.
The crux here is that Google is a commercial website, and they earn their income through advertisement views/clicks.
I disabled "comments" on that hub for very specific reasons. As for the my conversation with Beth (theraggededge) about Google and Wikipedia and the related (that you've just commented on), I was merely joking all the way.
A side note: I do not, personally, like Google adsense ads. Most of the time those ads are slightly 'hot' and misleading. I wish if we could get the type of commercial ads that Facebook places on its pages. They are far less misleading and far more aesthetically pleasing.
But sometimes I have to make little compromises for a lot of other good things to let in. Personally I do not find Google adsense ads advisable. But, sometimes, they do offer some useful advertisements as well. And I believe they're improving their services. Hence the joke.
Ok point taken, I didn't get the joke and as your reply was to Beth's reply to my comment I thought it related. As I said I agreed with many of the points in your hub and it was a little frustrating not to be able to leave a comment (and I didn't want to do that here). As for the Google AdSense ads, I have made about 80c from them as far as I know, nothing from Amazon. The only money I make comes from the HP ads and eBay so far and I am one of those "vintage" hubbers, though not part of the group you mention. I am a creative writer and not here for the money (though the little I make is welcome.. it keeps me in coffee). That last statement is why I don't spend much time in forums and if I do usually just leave one or two comments.
"Since the beginning, we’ve focused on providing the best user experience possible. Whether we’re designing a new Internet browser or a new tweak to the look of the homepage, we take great care to ensure that they will ultimately serve you, rather than our own internal goal or bottom line. Our homepage interface is clear and simple, and pages load instantly. Placement in search results is never sold to anyone, and advertising is not only clearly marked as such, it offers relevant content and is not distracting. And when we build new tools and applications, we believe they should work so well you don’t have to consider how they might have been designed differently."
Just an update on the "experiment" for ranking the following phrase:
"How to make a 3 legged chicken cross the road with an elephant on roller skates"
This forum discussion currently ranks first place if you search using the ""
For me it ranks 5th place on page 1 if the phrase is searched for without the ""
So now that we have achieved this we should all be in for a massive payout from HP due to the massive number of views that this phrase will generate................................
Or then again maybe it makes zero difference if you rank for something that is NEVER searched for... You still get NO traffic.... Ranking for something that is not searched for is relatively easy as no one will be competing with you.
May it's because of the specific keyword combination, or perhaps your hub had extraordinary quality. I used to write on hubpages in a different username 8 years ago and my hubs used to get listed in the 1st page of google search once my hub is published. I think google has now changed their rules strictly for SOE rankings
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