I un-keyword-stuffed a bunch of hubs...

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   ...traffic falls off cliff. No good deed goes unpunished.
   
   This concludes my rant for the day.

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      lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         In all fairness, I should probably mention there was also a formatting overhaul. I remember reading awhile back this can sometimes disconcert Google and they back off for a little while as they re-digest things...

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            lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            In my expert opinion (laughs), I would say that it is because of the removal of the keywords. Did you at least leave some by incorporating them naturally into the content? The format changes may cause some fluctuations, but adding the keywords back without stuffing, is a good move for sure.

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               paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               It's possible I might have gone overboard, but I strived to leave as many there as I thought Sir G would be fine with.

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                  lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Haha cool. Good luck then The removal may make those hubs possible niche site articles, that's when it would pay off if not earlier IMO.

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                     paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     That's my plan. In fact, due to some rather startling information I came across recently, I've pretty much decided any hub not making it to a niche site will be transferred to my website.

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                        lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        Startling information
                        
                        If I were a meme guy, I would have one right now. May I ask what information in case it's public knowledge?

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                           paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           Nah, to do so would cause freaking chaos around here. Plus, my interpretation could be wrong.

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                              lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              Hahahaha better don't.

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                        SheilaMilneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        Interesting....  Do you have a time-scale for deciding when a hub hasn't made it? 
                        
                        To tell you the truth, I don't think any of mine are moving, not even the two Editor's Choice. They're both travel, and Travel has been done.

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                           lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           Not really. They are not done. They just selected the hubs with the highest traffic for now to get the many niches started. Once they are done with the niches they will be going back to pick the other good ones.

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                              paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              +1

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                           paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           First, I need to finish my updating/editing/reformatting frenzy.
                           
                           Then, starting with my lowest traffic hub, it will simply be a case of intuition and brutal self-awareness and honesty.

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                  Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Keywords, nouns, vowels and comma's all gone Para? .)

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                     paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Only the memes remain.
                     
                     Hubs are all still showing a pulse. I'm actually starting to feel optimistic. Middle of next week will probably tell the tale.

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   yecallposted 8 years ago

   It can be so difficult, getting all the SEO just right but without keyword stuffing.  Boy, is it frustrating, especially when you know the standards change because of Panda. Ah, well, what can we do though, but continue on bravely?

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 8 years ago

   I read a forum thing where Robin E. said something about how keywords in the capsule titles wasn't important any more.
   
   Well, I'm certain she knows a thing or two more than I do about the business of all of this, and so I've been doing less titling of capsules. Because what is the purpose of putting text over a capsule if not to insert some valid and useful keywords?
   
   I'm glad of seeing this cautionary tale in the ol' feed of mine.
   
   Hey, paradigmsearch - why not just put them back the way they were?

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      Rochelle Frankposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I think there is still value in text titles.
      As a formatting element they break up text blocks.
      They help to 'organize' your article... sort of like an outline.
      They also allow a reader to skim and entice them to read.
      As far as using keywords in them... why not, as long as you are not being over-repetitious?

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      lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Where did you read this forum thread? I strongly disagree. They are headings and they count a lot. Try getting them out of the titles when you are ranking for a certain term and see what happens to your position within a week

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      paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I have given Mr. G what he wants. I'm going to give him 30 days to figure that out.
      
      I might add that awhile back, HubPro decimated the total number of keywords in a couple of my hubs. Those two hubs are now my top performers. I've become a believer.

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         lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Cool

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   Just a note...
   
   I've noticed HubPro has pretty much replaced text capsule titles with callout capsule titles. It do look prettier...

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      lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Haha yes. And I went a step further and changed them to Classic: a type of callout thingy instead of the regular callout. Wish they centered those texts too. I had to go and find a Goldilocks amount of characters to make it look the best.

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      Rochelle Frankposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, they do. I haven't tried them yet, but I probably should.

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         They're kind of like potato chips. You can't do just one.

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            lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Hahaha!

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   In the interests of updating...
   
   Traffic has returned to previous. Am now hoping for increase. After all, that was the whole idea.
   
   I should mention other variables are involved, so keyword reduction is tangled up in that.

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      lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Good to know. Hope it continues going up.  By other changes do you mean adding some of those new boxes. I forgot what they are called. Those big grey /black ones.

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         paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         As a matter of fact, I infested my hubs with those. All of them.

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            lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Hahaha

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               lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               They are all h2 headings though. Don't throw them in in quick succession.

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               paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I have concluded plagiarizing HubPro is a good idea.

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                  lobobrandonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Definitely. Take the best of everything to make it even better. Hubpro and brandons tips for success

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   mattforteposted 8 years ago

   Keyword stuffing works.
   
   Removing keyword stuffing also works.
   
   The key here is to do both.
   Stuff keywords properly.

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