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I un-keyword-stuffed a bunch of hubs...

  1. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago

    ...traffic falls off cliff. No good deed goes unpunished.

    This concludes my rant for the day.

    1. lobobrandon profile image84
      lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

      yikes

      1. paradigmsearch profile image86
        paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

        In all fairness, I should probably mention there was also a formatting overhaul. I remember reading awhile back this can sometimes disconcert Google and they back off for a little while as they re-digest things...

        1. lobobrandon profile image84
          lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

          In my expert opinion (laughs), I would say that it is because of the removal of the keywords. Did you at least leave some by incorporating them naturally into the content? The format changes may cause some fluctuations, but adding the keywords back without stuffing, is a good move for sure.

          1. paradigmsearch profile image86
            paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

            It's possible I might have gone overboard, but I strived to leave as many there as I thought Sir G would be fine with.

            1. lobobrandon profile image84
              lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

              Haha cool. Good luck then smile The removal may make those hubs possible niche site articles, that's when it would pay off if not earlier IMO.

              1. paradigmsearch profile image86
                paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

                That's my plan. In fact, due to some rather startling information I came across recently, I've pretty much decided any hub not making it to a niche site will be transferred to my website.

                1. lobobrandon profile image84
                  lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

                  Startling information yikes

                  If I were a meme guy, I would have one right now. May I ask what information in case it's public knowledge?

                  1. paradigmsearch profile image86
                    paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

                    Nah, to do so would cause freaking chaos around here. Plus, my interpretation could be wrong. lol

                2. SheilaMilne profile image90
                  SheilaMilneposted 16 months ago in reply to this

                  Interesting....  Do you have a time-scale for deciding when a hub hasn't made it? 

                  To tell you the truth, I don't think any of mine are moving, not even the two Editor's Choice. They're both travel, and Travel has been done.

                  1. lobobrandon profile image84
                    lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

                    Not really. They are not done. They just selected the hubs with the highest traffic for now to get the many niches started. Once they are done with the niches they will be going back to pick the other good ones.

                  2. paradigmsearch profile image86
                    paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

                    First, I need to finish my updating/editing/reformatting frenzy.

                    Then, starting with my lowest traffic hub, it will simply be a case of intuition and brutal self-awareness and honesty.

            2. Nell Rose profile image90
              Nell Roseposted 16 months ago in reply to this

              Keywords, nouns, vowels and comma's all gone Para? .)

              1. paradigmsearch profile image86
                paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

                Only the memes remain.

                Hubs are all still showing a pulse. I'm actually starting to feel optimistic. Middle of next week will probably tell the tale.

  2. yecall profile image78
    yecallposted 16 months ago

    It can be so difficult, getting all the SEO just right but without keyword stuffing.  Boy, is it frustrating, especially when you know the standards change because of Panda. Ah, well, what can we do though, but continue on bravely?

  3. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image90
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 16 months ago

    I read a forum thing where Robin E. said something about how keywords in the capsule titles wasn't important any more.

    Well, I'm certain she knows a thing or two more than I do about the business of all of this, and so I've been doing less titling of capsules. Because what is the purpose of putting text over a capsule if not to insert some valid and useful keywords?

    I'm glad of seeing this cautionary tale in the ol' feed of mine.

    Hey, paradigmsearch - why not just put them back the way they were?

    1. Rochelle Frank profile image89
      Rochelle Frankposted 16 months ago in reply to this

      I think there is still value in text titles.
      As a formatting element they break up text blocks.
      They help to 'organize' your article... sort of like an outline.
      They also allow a reader to skim and entice them to read.
      As far as using keywords in them... why not, as long as you are not being over-repetitious?

    2. lobobrandon profile image84
      lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

      Where did you read this forum thread? I strongly disagree. They are headings and they count a lot. Try getting them out of the titles when you are ranking for a certain term and see what happens to your position within a week

    3. paradigmsearch profile image86
      paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

      I have given Mr. G what he wants. I'm going to give him 30 days to figure that out. big_smile

      I might add that awhile back, HubPro decimated the total number of keywords in a couple of my hubs. Those two hubs are now my top performers. I've become a believer.

      1. lobobrandon profile image84
        lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

        Cool

  4. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago

    Just a note...

    I've noticed HubPro has pretty much replaced text capsule titles with callout capsule titles. It do look prettier... big_smile

    1. lobobrandon profile image84
      lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

      Haha yes. And I went a step further and changed them to Classic: a type of callout thingy instead of the regular callout. Wish they centered those texts too. I had to go and find a Goldilocks amount of characters to make it look the best.

    2. Rochelle Frank profile image89
      Rochelle Frankposted 16 months ago in reply to this

      Yes, they do. I haven't tried them yet, but I probably should.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image86
        paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

        They're kind of like potato chips. You can't do just one.

        1. lobobrandon profile image84
          lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

          Hahaha!

  5. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago

    In the interests of updating...

    Traffic has returned to previous. Am now hoping for increase. After all, that was the whole idea.

    I should mention other variables are involved, so keyword reduction is tangled up in that.

    1. lobobrandon profile image84
      lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

      Good to know. Hope it continues going up.  By other changes do you mean adding some of those new boxes. I forgot what they are called. Those big grey /black ones.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image86
        paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

        As a matter of fact, I infested my hubs with those. All of them.

        1. lobobrandon profile image84
          lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

          Hahaha

          1. lobobrandon profile image84
            lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

            They are all h2 headings though. Don't throw them in in quick succession.

          2. paradigmsearch profile image86
            paradigmsearchposted 16 months ago in reply to this

            I have concluded plagiarizing HubPro is a good idea.

            1. lobobrandon profile image84
              lobobrandonposted 16 months ago in reply to this

              Definitely. Take the best of everything to make it even better. Hubpro and brandons tips for success smile

  6. mattforte profile image93
    mattforteposted 16 months ago

    Keyword stuffing works.

    Removing keyword stuffing also works.

    The key here is to do both.
    Stuff keywords properly.

 
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