Traffic on my top 5

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  1. DzyMsLizzy profile image96
    DzyMsLizzyposted 19 months ago

    This is curious:  my top five hubs, with the highest scores, display a significant drop-off in page views.  I am not complaining about the scores, or the fact that they remain in the top 5.  I'm just curious how they are staying there, given the overall pitiful traffic.

                             Page Views           
    Score    1 Day    7 Days    30 Days    Ever

    82            76      495          2,116     39,062
    79                    49      292     1,245    33,970
    81                    16      126        535    19,717
    86                     12        95        372      5,632
    82                    10        67        407    33,666


    (ACK!!  It didn't keep my formatting!!!  Hope you can make out which numbers go under which headings!)

    1. Sherry Hewins profile image97
      Sherry Hewinsposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      They don't look so bad, but then I don't know what they usually are. I have hubs with scores in the 90s that don't get doodly squat for traffic, and two of my top five traffic hubs have scores in the 70s. Give me traffic any day.

      1. Will Apse profile image91
        Will Apseposted 19 months agoin reply to this

        Hard to disagree, lol.

        Hub score is important if you want to get a new page to a niche site, though. They only look at 80 and above.

        1. lobobrandon profile image88
          lobobrandonposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          Totally disagree on the at least 80 points statement.

        2. Jodah profile image87
          Jodahposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          I disagree with this statement too. I have one hub that only has a score of 69 moved to a niche site, and others 74, 77 and 79.

          1. bravewarrior profile image91
            bravewarriorposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            I agree. I've had a few moved that have scores below 80. I don't think they consider the hub score when moving articles to niche sites.

        3. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image96
          TIMETRAVELER2posted 19 months agoin reply to this

          My lowest scoring hub has a 75, was moved to the niche sites and has more than 37,000 page views.

          1. Will Apse profile image91
            Will Apseposted 19 months agoin reply to this

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            Hmm. Seems there is a glitch.

            Incidentally was it a new page? Or was it moved in the early days of the niches, on the basis of traffic?

            1. lobobrandon profile image88
              lobobrandonposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              Moved yesterday, old page.

            2. janshares profile image95
              jansharesposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              Lol, love you, Will. So new hubs have to have at least an 80?

              1. Will Apse profile image91
                Will Apseposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                http://hubpages.com/help/sites-editorial-policy

                *Articles should meet our definition of an 8 or better in our Informational Writing Scale.

                Dunno why I do this stuff no one will read it, lol.

                1. janshares profile image95
                  jansharesposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                  Okay, got it! You're talking about that 8 out of 10 criteria thingy for QAP. You're correct then, it would amount to a score of 80%.

                  1. Marisa Wright profile image95
                    Marisa Wrightposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                    Actually, no it doesn't.  The QAP score is separate and doesn't translate directly to HubScore at all.

                    Remember, the QAP score is based on various criteria relating to the quality of a Hub.  HubScore is based on that PLUS other things, including traffic, comments and the HubberScore of the author (which always seemed to me a strange thing to include).

                2. lobobrandon profile image88
                  lobobrandonposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                  Well, the hub that I'm talking about is now an 83. It was in the 80's when I first published it months/over a year ago. But it dropped to the 70's.

                  My recent hub on magnets I was asked to change a few subtitles and re-submit. I did that. The score is now 75. I'm not sure what it began at. I hope that it still gets moved, lol.

                  You aren't the only one who reads that stuff lol I just assumed that the 10 point scale is not related to the 100 point scale we see.

                  EDIT: My reasoning for this is that the scores should remain constant and not change with time (multiple times a day, at times) if it were just based on quality of the work.

                  1. Will Apse profile image91
                    Will Apseposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                    I reckon, the more desperate HP become for new pages and the more established and apparently solid the niches becomes, the more tempted they will be to take borderline pages. Which might not be a bad thing in the sense that it will encourage writers to produce more. Also, pages that get a hubscore in the seventies can do perfectly well in the SERP's, as others have noticed.

                    I would rig an algo to pluck poor performers from the niches much faster than poor performers are unfeatured on hubpages.com. And take a few more risks with content that do not meet the academic criteria of 8 or 80.

                    But I don't understand the technical stuff, and that that might be difficult even if it was truly desirable.

                    edit: also you are right, informatinal scores and hubscores are probably arrived at through different means but must be very closely related. Given that we can only see hubscores, I would work to get an 80 before submitting a page.

            3. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image96
              TIMETRAVELER2posted 19 months agoin reply to this

              It is one of the first hubs I ever wrote back in 2012.

        4. Sherry Hewins profile image97
          Sherry Hewinsposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          If that's true is must be a recent development. Those two of my top five with scores in the 70s are on niche sites. What are you basing that opinion on?

    2. peachpurple profile image82
      peachpurpleposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      well, i must say that your hub traffic and score are far better than mine

  2. greenmind profile image95
    greenmindposted 19 months ago

    Hi -- I'm not sure what your question is here. Could you rephrase it?

  3. UnnamedHarald profile image95
    UnnamedHaraldposted 19 months ago

    Not quite sure what you mean, but if you are wondering about the order, I believe the default sequence is based on the Page Views for 7 days and not 1 day.

  4. DzyMsLizzy profile image96
    DzyMsLizzyposted 19 months ago

    Sorry for the lack of clarity.  I must've been rushed. 

    I'm just confused about the sharp drop-off between the top 2 and the next three, views-wise.

    I understand the sequence is by highest to lowest, and how the hub scores are so good, if the views suck.

    1. lobobrandon profile image88
      lobobrandonposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      My highest scoring hub is 85 the next are 83 and 83. The first two are seasonal and get really good traffic in peak season and decent traffic otherwise. But the third one gets like 2 - 3 views a month. It's a really good hub, one of the best I've written not that the first two are bad, they are also very good. What I'm trying to say is that I see no relation between hub score and traffic.

      1. DzyMsLizzy profile image96
        DzyMsLizzyposted 19 months agoin reply to this

        No, I suppose there isn't.  Maybe, on thinking this through a bit more, my question is more along the lines of "why aren't these others that are 'way up there' in the list, getting more traffic than they do?"

        1. lobobrandon profile image88
          lobobrandonposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          Because the score is a hubpages thing and traffic is not controlled by hubpages

          1. DzyMsLizzy profile image96
            DzyMsLizzyposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            Yes, I realize that, as well...I guess it's the lack of views that is bugging me...
            I don't know why I'm so tangled up in my words and phrasing today...normally, I can express myself far better.

  5. Jodah profile image87
    Jodahposted 19 months ago

    There is no real correlation between the hub score and the amount of traffic it gets. Here are my six highest scoring hubs:

    88    46    0    5    33    224            
    85    89    0    2    25    599        
    85    61    0    0    0    192        
    85    73    3    21    112    1,790
    84    59    5    72    225    3,182
    84    91    0    0    1       259

    I have plenty of hubs with lower scores consistently getting more traffic than most of them (as follows):

    68    39    0    132    132    132        
    65    52    4    59    195    195        
    68    103    3    46    133    4,860   
    77    93    6    30    215    5,304

    1. sallybea profile image97
      sallybeaposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      Interesting Jodah, for I definitely see a correlation between high scores and traffic.  41 hubs have been moved and all have scores of 80 or higher except one which is currently a 79,   These 41 hubs are responsible for over 3 quarters of my total traffic for all of my writing.

  6. Kaili Bisson profile image99
    Kaili Bissonposted 19 months ago

    In my experience, score doesn't relate to traffic at all. My top five hubs in terms of score are all on niche sites; two of them are rated 95 and three are rated 94. They get very little traffic.

  7. janshares profile image95
    jansharesposted 19 months ago

    Hi MsLizzy,

    I believe I understand your question. I think the answer is that hubs are listed according to the amount of traffic within a 7 day period. So our highest scoring hubs, as well as highest traffic hubs are spread all over the stats list and will fluctuate.

    If my highest scoring hub has 100,000 views but it only received 25 views within the last 7 days, it won't be at the top, compared to others that received more. Conversely, if one of my lowest scoring hubs fell within my top five hubs this week, it's because it was among the highest traffic hubs. I recall HP made that change sometime last year or maybe 2015 to reflect traffic rather than scores when listing hubs in our accounts.

 
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