Questions about Maven for Paul

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   TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years ago

   Two questions:
   
   Will our URL's transfer to Maven as 301s instead of actually remaining as our own domains.
   
   Will we retain the right to add, remove, edit our articles from Maven as we see fit.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago

   To be more specific:
   
   1.  You have said the niche sites will retain their URL's.  Do you mean (a) they will continue to be located on separate websites with their current URL's, or (b) the URL's will be retained but they will be 301 redirected to Maven sub-domains.   
   
   So, will the actual address of Pethelpful.com continue to be Pethelpful.com, or will Pethelpful.com continue to exist, redirected to www. themaven.net/pethelpful?
   
   
   2.  You have said we will retain our copyright.  I understand that, and that we only grant the site (HubPages OR Maven)  the right to publish our work.  However, HubPages' TOS says, "By posting Hub Content on the Service, You grant HubPages a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license, for as long as Your Hub is displayed on HubPages.  Whereas Maven's TOS says "perpetuity"
   
   Retaining our copyright becomes meaningless if we can't delete the article from the Maven network, or if Maven has the right to republish it elsewhere even if we do delete it. Under Maven's current TOS,  that would be the situation. There is no ambiguity as far as I can see - Helium.com had similar TOS and that was the effect.  It meant the authors had no control over what happened to their articles.

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      Venkatachari Mposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I would also like to know the answers to these questions.

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   Sue Adamsposted 6 years ago

   me too

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   Natalie Frankposted 6 years ago

   I think a lot of us will be deleting all our content unless the Maven TOS change.  If there is no ability to retain a real copyright or have the right to remove out content if we chose to do so HP will lose a lot of authors before the merger happens.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago

   Update:  on another thread, Christy has assured us that HubPages will continue exactly as it is with the same HubPages TOS for now.

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   Natalie Frankposted 6 years ago

   I usually don't weigh in on these types of issues but I have to say I am a bit concerned about this merger. As for the issue of copyright - It's good we would retain the same TOS for Copyright - It's the "for now" that worries me.  If we let all our content go to Maven is there a statement that will say that HP TOS are different?  Will we be able to see the HP TOS before deciding if we want our content on Maven? Is there any protection against them changing TOS without first informing us they are about to do so and which would give us the right to take our content off Maven? 
   
   With all the authors on HP and with the increased focus on quality this is a potentially huge amount of high quality content that would be transferred to Maven.  For many of us it represents years of work with the initial crafting and editing of each article along with periodic updates etc.  There is also large amount of content that falls under each topic area which could easily be curated and organized into books, white papers etc. and sold for profit.  This includes a great deal of creative writing in the form of short stories, poems and serials that we could lose the rights to. 
   
   I guess I am a bit skeptical about this move. Maven's SOP in their TOS is that they have the right to do whatever they want with any content on their site including republish it in any format they choose while keeping any and all profit that comes from it.  I don't know why they would be willing to put HP content under different rules.  Maybe at first to convince authors to move their stuff over, but eventually it would seem in their best interests to just change the TOS to match what they currently are for the rest of their content.  I have been around the block and had informal contracts and TOS changed spur of moment without little or no warning.  There was always a statement at the beginning saying something like "These TOS can be changed at any time without prior warning based on the good of the organization," or something along those lines.  I just think we should be cautious in terms of what we do and insist on complete disclosure and some kind of accountability that would offer at least a bit of protection for authors.

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      +1  This also concerns me.  a TOS can be changed at any time and often without even telling writers about the change.  It's a serious concern.

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   Marseiposted 6 years ago

   I agree and you said it all very well.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago

   I agree with your concerns but sadly, we don't have the power to insist on anything

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      Venkatachari Mposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      But, Why Paul Edmondson is silent here? He needs to say something to assure a bit, at least.

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         Will Apseposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         These questions have mostly been answered but are buried in a great deal of froth and irrelevance on the main thread. I would just read the posts from staff, highlighted in yellow.

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