oh I listed some new software for 34 bucks, Im not gonna use it and that was the retail price, he bought it now, 20 freakin seconds after I listed it and expected itto be the 179 dollar version.I had to expplain it is the same version, just without the box and I got it cheaper and it doesnt hab=ve the fancy wording on the case the box does..ppl want something for nothing, and really he did get the 179 buck software..I just got it at company price , ordered by my friend who works for the company for me