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Honest criticism or constant reassurance? Which one do you prefer?

  1. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 8 years ago

    I find that most of the comments on hp are either thanking or reassuring the writer. I think hubbers believe it's worth more petting the writer on the back than telling him or her if something feels wrong. This way we might miss great opportunities to give our fellow hubber a chance to 1. see things for what they are, 2. improve his or her writing/mentality.

    Let's imagine hp vanishes from the face of the earth and you have to start a blog of your own without the support of this community. What would you take away from hp that you think might help you make a stand? How would you gain traffic?

    And please, don't tell me all the stuff about keywords and seo, because we all know that without quality of content that's worth nothing.

    1. anjalichugh profile image76
      anjalichughposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I prefer a blend of both (criticism & appreciation). One without the other can play havoc with the writer's confidence by either shattering it or unnecessarily boosting it. smile

      1. Haunty profile image85
        Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you. I was asking because I think the balance tips on the side of appreciation with the comments I get.

    2. profile image0
      sandra rinckposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well if it wasn't for hubpages I would have become a spammer! lol

      1. Haunty profile image85
        Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Lucky you found hp. Most great bloggers were 'spammers' once. You gotta start somewhere. smile

    3. Kebennett1 profile image61
      Kebennett1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Personally, honest criticism is great for enhancing my writing skills. But, I would like a little reassurance thrown in on occasion so I am re-energized!

      1. Haunty profile image85
        Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Spend more time in the social space to attract more readers. You have only 2 posts. smile

  2. Bredavies profile image79
    Bredaviesposted 8 years ago

    Honest criticism is very important. I want my hubs to be good so I can start getting paid for it.

  3. profile image43
    badcompany99posted 8 years ago

    Doesn't bother me one way or the other as I will still write my way.

  4. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 8 years ago

    Bredavies - that what I think too

    BC - I know your style is superior, so there's no point in being flexible smile

    1. profile image43
      badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry what I meant to say is I appreciate a persons honest opinion on my writing but I ignore it, I will however let a critical comment stay !

      1. Bredavies profile image79
        Bredaviesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        smile
        Well a lot of the time you do have to go with your gut and how you feel about your work. If you let to many comments effect your writing..after awhile it wouldn't be your writing.

        1. profile image43
          badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Smart girl smile

        2. Haunty profile image85
          Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Of course, being criticized doesn't mean you have to lose common sense. It's a good idea to have some inherent respect for other people's opinions, but there may be times when you simply know better. smile

  5. Lisa HW profile image78
    Lisa HWposted 8 years ago

    What I prefer in comments are comments related to the message/information in the Hub.  I don't mind if someone feels like being bothered pointing out a typo, but (arrogant as this will sound) I'm not interested in feedback on my writing style/ability.  It is what is.  Some of my stuff is better than other stuff.  I'm confident that I have solid writing skills, but if anyone writes enough they're going to have writing that isn't Earth-shatteringly great art.

    I appreciate a genuine compliment (rather than just a cursory, "nice Hub").  Once in a while someone's words make it clear they really mean what they say.  I think every writer appreciates that.

    I appreciate comments that offer additional information to what I've said and comments that offer a differing (but civil) opinion.  If someone is disappointed that they didn't get a certain piece of information they had hoped to I appreciate that kind of criticism.  I don't want criticism like this (which I got recently), "Well written, but you should have added charts for kids' chores."  First, such a critic can write his own version of the same article.  Second, I don't happen to believe in charts for kids' chores.  In a case like that, I write my article the way I see fit.  People can like it or lump it, or they can try to write their version of a better one - but I'm not interested in their ideas about how mine should have been written.  I know exactly what my weaknesses are when it comes to writing.  One is I don't tend to write for the Internet.  I write what I want to write.

    Writing my own blog, rather than on HubPages, would require putting in additional, non-writing, efforts; but for me the support of the community isn't a factor at all.  I enjoy the community and the shared interest in writing, but I separate the community from my own writing.  When it comes to my writing it's pretty much all between me and my writing.   smile

  6. SweetiePie profile image82
    SweetiePieposted 8 years ago

    Everyone has a completely different idea of what makes a good hub.  Some people say you must have at least five pictures for you hubs to do well, but some of my best performing hubs do not even have pictures.  Some people like certain topics more than others, so the definition what is a really high quality hub can vary from person to person.

  7. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 8 years ago

    Lisa - Thanks for your opinion. I'm really not used to bookmarking hubs, but sometimes I bookmark some of them because I have no time to read at that moment, but I don't want to miss them. I'm quite slow to return to the bookmarks though. So the other day I did, and I found that a significant portion of the hubs I bookmarked were yours. I found those hubs pretty good.

    SweetiePie - Well, yes. You are right, everyone is different. I like people's reflections because they show me another perspective. I realize how aspects of the topic I actually didn't think of. I like complete honesty. Of course they don't need to point out every spelling mistake, but if my hub is totally unoriginal / lacks focus / makes an interesting subject look awful or anything, I'll like the one person who tells me this the best. smile

  8. SweetiePie profile image82
    SweetiePieposted 8 years ago

    Once again Haunty someeone telling you a hub lacks focus could all be their opinion too.  Once I had written a personal essay about a problematic neighbor, and during our writer's workshop a fellow student recommended I change the focus.  I did what he suggested, and my professor ended up saying I should have stayed with the original.  After that I learned to follow my own intuition and to only take what others say with a grain of salt.  These are only hubs after all, and some will be more focused than others.  Some of the silly hubs that seem unfocused can do well with the search engines, so it all depends on the topic.

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, I got that hammered into me now. smile

      1. SweetiePie profile image82
        SweetiePieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Do what you like though.  As I said it is a personal choice.

  9. Jane@CM profile image60
    Jane@CMposted 8 years ago

    I like honest criticism.  I'm an honest person and I live in a bubble hoping others are as honest as me big_smile

    Reassurance is nice, but I don't go out looking for it.

  10. Lisa HW profile image78
    Lisa HWposted 8 years ago

    Haunty, thanks.  It's nice to know someone bookmarked Hubs, and nice of you to mention it.  smile

    You have quite a few good Hubs, yourself.   smile

  11. Lady_E profile image80
    Lady_Eposted 8 years ago

    Half and Half, Haunty. smile

  12. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 8 years ago

    Jane - Same with me, as far as living in a bubble goes. smile

    Lisa - Thanks. Now you know why I am your fan. smile

    Lady_E - Half and Half? Of course. No why-question pops to mind right now. But I noticed this: when I go to your profile, I can select a random hub to read regardless of the title and it will turn out to be a very decent one. Every time. Why are you doing this? I don't think you'll get any criticism this way.smile

  13. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    I would rather have honest criticism of my writing than insincere reassurance smile

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      well, I guess someone has to be at least as good as you to criticise you which leaves very little space for you for high expectations in this regard...

  14. Pearldiver profile image81
    Pearldiverposted 8 years ago

    Tell me Straight... Honest Critique is the best reassurance one can gain.  Critisise me.. You are only showing YOUR worthiness.

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
      Uninvited Writerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agree

    2. Jane@CM profile image60
      Jane@CMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Agree!  Good point.

    3. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You are in a cool state right now. smile Or are you always like that?

      1. Pearldiver profile image81
        Pearldiverposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Oh thanks for that Haunty.... I think we all waste a lot of our lives filtering BS. In my way; I try not to add to the pile! big_smile

        My motto is: "I'll always tell you honestly and objectively. If I hurt your feelings; I'm sorry: But were you looking for someone to lie to you?"  In the same respect; I appreciate a reciprocol assessment.  But Hey; I'm a Kiwi.. I might be pulling your leg. big_smile

        1. Haunty profile image85
          Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          lol thanks, now I don't know smile

  15. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 8 years ago

    I'll be straight. When I percieve that someone made his or her best effort, I'll appreciate that and won't tell him or her that it's crap (even if it is). I simply can't do it. I'd rather just leave without commenting.

  16. TamCor profile image81
    TamCorposted 8 years ago

    Honest criticism doesn't bother me in the least, but neither would constant reassurance, lol.  I don't mind if someone points out anything to me at all, if it's done in a tactful way.

    I'd like to know what some of you do in this situation:

    If you read a hub with numerous spelling errors, is it better to ignore them, or nicely point them out to the writer? If I said anything, it would only be to help, not to embarrass them, but would it seem that way to the writer? 

    I've wondered about this many times, but so far have done nothing about it, because I don't want to offend. Is there a private way of contacting them--or should I just mind my own business?

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I would want to hear about my errors.

      1. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I send them a private email pointing out the typo if I know they are the sort of people who appreciate having it right.

  17. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    I will always be happy to receive constructive criticism. I do not enjoy people posting things like "Your writing sucks! on my hubs though. Not informative enough, just tell me what sucks and I am pretty happy to look at it.

    I would prefer those I consider good writers like Pam Grundy, Teresa McGurk, Maddie Ruud, Mark Knowles, Eric Gaudin, Jerilee Wei, Uninvited Writer, Misha, agvulpes, Ron Montgomery, Tom Rubenoff, Paraglider, Zutzy Bee, Lisa HW, Lita Sorenson, Mightymom, countrywoman, BlondePoet Chris A, Christoph, EagleKiwi, bgpappa, Irohner, Bard of Ely, frogdroppings, Ryan Hupfer, LondonGirl, Dame Scribe, lady E, Kathryn Vercillo to criticize, as they are all better writers than me.I have missed a lot of others who I consider to be very good writers, but don't want to make myself look too bad!
    Constructive criticism always hurts a bit... a good indication that change is needed! If it hurts a bit, I can bet my subconscious already knows that particular hub sucks!

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'd be humbled if any of the above ever read my hubs. Well, actually there are some that do. And so I'm humbled.

  18. earnestshub profile image87
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    You are going great guns Haunty! You have made many good hubs in just four months, and your hubscore indicates a bright future here.

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you.

  19. emievil profile image79
    emievilposted 8 years ago

    Getting constant reassurance is great for my ego smile but I would really love to get honest criticism that are nicely-worded. Just this week, I had a reader from outside hubpages who pointed out to me some errors in my hubs. At first I was like thinking he just used his comments to promote their site / business but then I saw that, promoting his business aside, his comments made sense. So I edited my hub. If I could contact him again, I'll thank him for his comment. smile

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      This is good. And don't look unfavourably on those promoting their sites. They have to do that. As long as it's not spam, it's ok, I think.

  20. karpouzian profile image61
    karpouzianposted 8 years ago

    Honest/constructive criticism helps me to be a better writer, helps me to hone my skills, and helps me make more money by writing!

    Reassurance helps keep me going.

    Needless to say, I need the first, I want the second.

  21. cherrymeekins profile image53
    cherrymeekinsposted 8 years ago

    Why not both? Honest criticism is a must have to succeed in anything. Someone lies to you it can throw you off because you will be thinking you are doing something right when you arent.  You may not ever know what mistakes you make, therefore hindering your success.
    But constant reassurance can be motivation if someone is telling you that you are doing good and can make it, and being honest. Thats motivation. To me you cant have one without the other. Both creates a positive balance in my opinion

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      And on that note I leave the site and go to bed. My question is answered for good. smile Thank you.

 
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